Do you think independent learning is better than having someone teaching you?
By zhihao12
@zhihao12 (363)
Singapore
October 5, 2012 4:19am CST
Personally, i find that learning independently is much more beneficial and i gain knowledge faster. It seems that independent learning forces me to find the resources or materials needed to aid my learning myself, and this in turn makes it easier during the learning process. That is from my personal experience but i wish to hear from mylots member what they think about this and which one do they prefer. The learning is not limited to studying as a student, it can be lifelong learning.
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26 responses
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
5 Oct 12
Hello Dear Zhihao, I liked your topic of discussion. I feel learning is a process of acquiring skill in some new area of work in our life about which we don't have any knowledge. This can be done with the help of some guidance from individuals or by independent way of learning by using other means other than a personal teacher.
We can start learning at any age. Depending upon the areas of one’s interest the age can be decided. Like to learn driving we need to wait till the legal age. To learn swimming we can start learning it any age.
As discussed earlier where can one learn the things in one's life? There are many learning schools, Colleges, Universities and private classes where can one learn and officially have a certificate of proficiency from these institutes which will help one to get a job in that particular area of learning. This can also be learnt by one all by himself or herself independently with the help of books and other supporting study materials available.
There are some areas which can be learnt independently like learning drawing, painting or some craftsmanship etc. But some areas definitely require expert personal to teach you personally. For example if you want to learn dancing I bet you may have best of the books in Dancing with you but you can't attain those swift and graceful movements in the Dance with out a personal guide. You need t follow him/her by looking at the movements. He/She will teach the technique of he steps involved in the dancing.
Similarly in technical and professional fields like Medicine, surgery and other skilled job you need to attend classes and learn these things under the supervision of an expert! There are many things to be learnt apart from just the subject that is given in the books which is called 'Personal Experience' which can only be given by the teacher.
I respect your feelings and idea of independent learning! But if that was a successful technique of learning then could you kindly tell me why we are having so many universities, Colleges, schools all over the World where people are learning from so many centuries?
Thus in conclusion what I all I can say is that learning process depends upon the area of interest as some areas o subjects require a skilled teacher or guide to teach you while in other areas you can learn all by your self. But note my words that the skills acquired from a qualified teacher are much more qualitative than the self learnt skills! Thanks!
@AKRao24 (27424)
• India
6 Oct 12
Dear Zhihao, Practice without a proper guidance can take you no where! You should now proper techniques which experts attain after spending generations together! This thing can only be experienced once you visit any expert.
Regarding your answer to my second part, I can understand it is because of your juvenile age you have such feelings about the people aspiring admission in Universities and Colleges. These youngsters and people as termed by you are not at all 'lazy' in their nature! They burn midnight oil to prepare themselves to appear in the entrance examination and getting through it! They are very dedicated people and want to get admission in the schools or colleges voluntarily. They are never forced to take admission in them.
In fact these institutions are highly funded by the Governments as there are many facilities required for the students to learn in the form of practical training. They procure many things legally which can't be done by an individual privately or independently. Example as you ay that practice can make one perfect by independent learning too! Agreed, but can you get number of Carcasses at your place or at any other place other than Medical colleges where you can practice on? Can you get any cases to practice surgery if you want to practice independently? Who will allow you to undertake such things? Institutions do have very nice facilities for the Students.
How are going to practice or learn how to fly an airplane independently! For that we need to have many simulators and equipments in the labs through which one can learn flying. This equipment is very expensive and is not available every where in the World and if available they are not supplied to any individual to learn independently. Having learnt on simulators how can one actual really fly an airplane independently as it takes a fortune to own or hire one to learn and these planes are to be used at an restricted areas as per the government norms.
Could you kindly give the details about the areas where you have attained mastery by mere practicing the art or science independently without attending any institution? This may help me to learn that such things can really happen in our day to day lives without a teacher! Thanks!
@zhihao12 (363)
• Singapore
6 Oct 12
Hmm interesting. I see where you are driving at. Indeed there are many things that can be quite hard to learn without someone to guide you, like what you mentioned, dancing or surgery. But rather than saying having a teacher makes those processes easier, i prefer seeing it as the practice that is more important. And that practice can also be done independently. No doubt having guidance makes it much easier ( and safer too ).
As to the question why would we need so many schools all over the world, i think the reason is more because people are too reliant or lazy and do not want to make the effort to study independently. So the schools actually acts as a platform to "force" people to learn. So it does not indirectly imply that the method of independent learning is any less successful than guided learning.
But all these are just the way i see it, and i am quite sure there is no definite right or wrong here. :) Thanks for your response.
@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
6 Oct 12
When I was a nursing student I listened to many lectures about anatomy and physiology and I wouldn't say that I didn't learn anything from those lectures, but I learned much, much more when I studied on my own, because I was able to take the time that I needed. If there was something that I didn't understand I borrowed other books at the library and compared the knowledge in the different books and I was always able to understand the things that I had to learn when I studied on my own.
On the other hand there are also situations where I prefer to have a teacher for instance if I have to learn a new language. I can learn new words from a computer programme and I can read books about grammar, but it is really nice to have a teacher who is able to correct my pronounciation. Sometimes I think that I know how to pronounce a certain word, but I pronouce it the wrong way. If a teacher doesn't correct my pronounciation I might never realize that it is a mistake.
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@leeloo (1492)
• Portugal
5 Oct 12
I think it really depends on what it is. I have learnt a lot online, with various videos, pages etc and yes I really do enjoy it. There are things that can be very well explained and things like making something be it a cake or a shelf, we find the help quite easily. I have on many occasions learnt something new and solved problems from what I have learnt online. Things like learning a new language on the other hand is very practical and I have done so on more then one occasion, but the advantage is with a teacher they will listen and correct pronunciation, that is were I really notice the difference. Another big difference is that when we learn something new on our own it is because we are interested in learning about what ever the topic is, where as the structured courses may have topics that do not interest us as therefore are more difficult to learn and understand.
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@zhihao12 (363)
• Singapore
6 Oct 12
Language is really one aspect where learning alone makes it time-consuming and tedious in one way or another, so good thing you bought it up. But i feel that we can still achieve the same state of success in the end regardless of how we do it, guided or independent learning. The difference is more like choosing between an easy or rough way out. Well, have to admit that in this language learning, having influence from a teacher may be highly preferred.
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
6 Oct 12
Yeah, learning is a lifelong process and it doesn't matter how you prefer to acquire it. For me, I think one will learn faster if he/she is being taught by someone who is a professional or by a learned individual.
Since he/she is an expert about the subjects to be taught, he/she possessed also ways and techniques so that it will be easily absorb by his/her students.
@stanley777 (9402)
• Philippines
6 Oct 12
Yes, we may say that every individual is unique from one another, but if he/she really wants to learn, he/she must adjust to the style of teaching of the facilitator so that they can easily absorbs what he/she teaches. I guess some teachers try to understand too, the level of understanding their students possessed so they could go slow if needed be especially to beginners.
@zhihao12 (363)
• Singapore
6 Oct 12
The ways and techniques may not be suitable for every students since everyone is unique, so i doubt it will work. And to me, someone who is an expert at things usually find it harder to teach beginners trying to learn it. That is because they cant grasp what level the student is currently at and going by his own standards, his teachings will be hard to understand anyway.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
6 Oct 12
I think that would depend on the individual on where he/she can focus more. For me, either way will do but also it depends on what I want to learn about.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
6 Oct 12
Well, I think that teachers are still needed for us to guide us coz to be able to learn and master a certain thing, one needs training and experience. We can be self-taught but there is nothing better than being taught by someone who have had further studies.
@zhihao12 (363)
• Singapore
6 Oct 12
Well that is by far the common belief, and even i agree to that. I am just wondering what if one day learning become a independent thing and there is no longer such thing as a teacher. Will we do better or worse than now. I know its impossible but just having a crazy thought.
@adrians (52)
• Philippines
5 Oct 12
For me it depends on what you want to learn, Sure that it is more beneficial to learn by yourself but sometimes our mind is not just as good enough as those of others. WE all have our strengths and weaknesses. ^.^ We cannot have the best of both worlds. Well,, for me that is how I see it ^.^
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@berting600 (3453)
• Philippines
5 Oct 12
Learning with someone tutoring you would be beneficial to your learning skills,because it could make you know his styles where he got your answers,by which you could also do it when upon his teaching methods would make you search also as he finds the answers.Your method of learning by yourself is also good yet you are not making so much improvements because your styles do not have other diversities,to make other improvements in your skills.Yes,you can still learn by your own ways and styles,yet with others help you can discover other options to enhance your knowledge.Their techniques could make you open other styles how to make your studies have more information,which you could never achieve when you are only studying by yourself.
@berting600 (3453)
• Philippines
5 Oct 12
I respect your decision to study your own ways,yet your ways does not bring you anything new to your knowledge searching because you still follow styles with own self scenarios,it maybe new to your ways but still do not follow another style as it was fashion to the ways you like it to be only yourself.Where is your idea of another knowledge you do not like to adventure to another strata of learning strategies.That is just like going to a building where you just like the first floor,which denotes your style of self learning,so you do not go to the next floor for another level of knowledge.You are your own boss is making your learning decisions.
@zhihao12 (363)
• Singapore
5 Oct 12
I understand that you are saying we can pick off something from the one teaching us, like perhaps his learning style.It is not wrong though but, i believe that everyone has their own unique style at learning which is tailored to individual. So basically only be learning independently, we can find the style that suits us best and follow it for other learning areas in life.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Oct 12
This obviously depends on the individual and our personal approach to learning. There are benefits in either method.
For many it is much easier to approach the subject themselves and absorb knowledge at their own personal pace. This also provides the option to focus more deeply on the aspects that appear more confusing. The obvious benefit for others may be the availability of someone to explain the aspects that seem confusing and answer relevant questions.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Oct 12
The internet does make it far easier to research or clarify information, I have to agree with you about that. Yesterday was a perfect example for me because a friend at work telephones me and asked for help editing a macro in Microsoft Excel. I did not know how to amend it as he wanted, but found out on the internet within minutes.
I still think that it helps if we have someone available to explain points that seem confusing, so both approaches have some value.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
6 Oct 12
hi zhihao I think a mixture of learning as a student and
independant learning works well. my son did teach himself
C+ and C++ from text books borrowed from the library and became very good at it plus a number of other computer languages too.But in getting jobs one needs to show proof and usually that means an AA or BA or MA of some sort. He can take certain tests though as proof of his knowledge.
@zhihao12 (363)
• Singapore
6 Oct 12
So basically form that case you mention, it shows that independent learning works well too. True enough, this society needs to see evidence of your skill, and usually the easiest proof is to have a certificate. But unfortunately, when i look around me, i can see many people with the paper proof yet without really knowing what they are learning. My friends are among that group, they learn or rather memorize everything by heart and plainly listen to the teacher without even understand or evaluating it. That is why i believe independent learning will force us to minimally understand the bare bones of a content.
@leateagee (3667)
• China
5 Oct 12
Learning is both. You've got to be open-minded. Maybe you haven't found the inspiring teacher ... I agree with you, life is a life long learning. Make every day's life lessons learning in a process. Good luck!
@leateagee (3667)
• China
6 Oct 12
Learning is a lifetime process. I learn every day from many walks of life.
@sender621 (14893)
• United States
5 Oct 12
I believe that more is taken in of the learning process when when you go about it independently. when someone is teaching your something, you tend to pick up only what they are willing to give and not what there is to be discivered.
@sherlysinguran (82)
•
6 Oct 12
Learning independently is good, its self fulfilling since its your effort to explore things,learned and understand. But its a case to case basis. I am in my new job, new place.We never been oriented on the place, protocol and processes. Its quite frustrating when someone pressured to finish this and that on a little span of time when we dont even have an orientation.I hate this feeling..
@zhihao12 (363)
• Singapore
6 Oct 12
Well, i can say the same for me. I hate to rush things through, especially learning. No matter what others may say, to me learning is not only to gain knowledge or to get a certificate, it is also a form of "entertainment" and we should enjoy every moment of it, and only then will we truly understand what we learn. Just take a look at all those great minds like Newton, who spend their whole life learning.
@vidhyaprakash_2 (7116)
• India
5 Oct 12
Hi friend, there is no limitation for education and we can learn at any age. Some persons are very much interested in studies and they can learn easily by them selves without the help of the teacher. But not every one is blessed in this sort. If you are week in studies better to join with a tuition and learn with others.
@zhihao12 (363)
• Singapore
5 Oct 12
Hello. I belong to the group which suits independent learning than being taught. But from what i see from most comments, it seems that many agree both ways works and can achieve similar result. So i guess it is just my personal preference for the former style.
@kerenbao8099 (2)
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6 Oct 12
While, in my opinion, it is depends on what kind of knowledge you are learning. for me, the knowledge which is more close to the science I have to reply on someone because I cannot get it or some concepts are not understand.
@GemmaR (8517)
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5 Oct 12
I think that things like this very much depend on the individual, because it depends on how you work. If you need someone to give you information then obviously you would be better to have a teacher, however there are a lot of people who work much better if they're allowed time on their own to research the thing that they've been asked to write about. I am one of the people who very much prefers to be on their own to do work, and I am not able to concentrate if I have to sit in a class full of people and get on with things.
@zhihao12 (363)
• Singapore
5 Oct 12
True, i have some friends who cant learn without someone to guide them. Yet they can achieve greatly when taught. Whereas for some people like me, i cant do well when taught but perform better when self learning. So in the end it really depends on oneself.
@garson (884)
• United States
15 Oct 12
The answer is simple: DEPENDS. Of course, children would still need to go to school or they still need education in general. I'm aware that in some countries including US, parents are home schooling their children. I don't know how successful they can be. We just have to wait and see.
As individuals getting passed school education, it depends on different individuals. Some individuals are like explorers. They learn to discover, to create, and to explore possibilities. Others prefer classroom instructions, private tutoring/coaching, or workshops. Again, it depends on what you're learning. Some people are good at certain things/fields while others are good at others.
Independent learning allows people to use their head more. People who are successful in this way would go on to other success. Don't quote me since I don't know the statistics, but I would bet that more success will come their way. This does not mean that people that learn through other means are less successful. It all comes to effort, time, and money.
@prashu228 (37524)
• India
5 Oct 12
independent learning helps more i feel, and we will never forget what ever we learn by our self, but teaching also helps upto some extent to realize what is good and bad in life, we cant ignore anything, there are few things which is good to learn by ourselves and others through teaching
@subhojit10 (7375)
• India
5 Oct 12
Hey thanks a ton for such a nice discussion. Well it entirely depends on the assignment. For instance, if an assignment involves learning from outside and that requires outside help, then it would be wise to adopt it otherwise we can do it by ourselves. On a personal front i have always favored independent learning as it helps us to be more involved deeply in the learning process and helps us sharpen our skills in it.
What say?