Is This Islam?

@artemeis (4194)
China
October 13, 2012 9:11pm CST
Once again, an Islamic cleric has made a bold announcement to the world encouraging Muslims to wage Holy War against the Americans for the anti-Islam movie. I simply do not believe the Muslims do not know and recognize Ayman-al-Zawahiri yet, he is alive and well to preach war in the name of Islam. Is he a Muslim? If he is, is he guilty of blasphemy? If he is, shouldn't he be punished? Ref: http://edition.cnn.com/2012/10/13/world/meast/zawahiri-message/index.html
6 responses
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
14 Oct 12
Islam is what the boldest amongst them make it. I know it disturbs a lot of our good-hearted, gentle Muslims here in myLot who wouldn't approve of war. But the fact that the only public face of Islam wears war paint is not the fault of non-Muslims. More good, decent Muslims need to come to the public forefront to put a better face on the religion rather than letting the violent, idiotic warmongers wield the brush. It might be considered a sin or whatever to speak against another Muslim, and I'm sure fear plays a role, but if more good Muslims don't start speaking out against the lunatics, we're never going to coexist peacefully. At some point, people do ask themselves if all Muslims agree with this nonsense, because so few speak out. And it's the same in Catholic communities when not enough speak out against child molestation. How about forgetting the punishment your god will give you and use your free will to speak against bad sh1t. That's not a lot to ask. If not, the bad is going to be the public face of every religion.
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@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Oct 12
I hate to compare the magnitude of what you have mention about the Catholics' child molestation which is actually quite isolated. However, it is interesting to note that the Catholics are actually resolving the issue to prevent another such demeaning and devastating incident of this nature from repeating itself. Now, compare it to the harboring, support and sympathizing of the radicals, extremists and fundamentalists to commit heinous acts of terrorism on the innocent and uninvolved parties even one of their own. I am sure you can see the stark difference. If religion is about bringing about peace within the believers, then it sad to see that Islam has not been able to bring about that effectively. Muslims need to be reminded that in this pluralism society nobody can change anybody regardless of the relationships they have had but they (Muslims) can change themselves. The real issue is not so much on what others do to Muslims but how the Muslims react (or overreact) to external circumstances. I am sure you will agree with that if our inner sense of well being is dependent on how others treat us then we will remain miserable and angry much of the time. What others do to me is their issue. How I respond is always my issue, my responsibility and my choice. Furthermore, when they overreact to external circumstances then it will always be our problem. Most of the time, we overreact when we have hurtful issues from the past we have never resolved. And, when that happens ancient buried damaging feelings get triggered. Petra King in her book Your Life Matters wrote: "Peace becomes possible when we stop blaming anything or anyone for how we feel and take responsibility for our own perceptions. If we pursue happiness in the way our culture suggests that we reach for it outside of ourselves and remain dependent on circumstances that will remain forever beyond our control. But, if we anchor our self in our consciousness, rather than in the outer trappings or events of our life, peace becomes possible." I feel that Muslims, Christians and other religions as well, not only need to resolve the hurts and angry feelings from the past but also, surrender circumstances beyond their control to their God they believe in and trust God to bring good out of the situation. I suppose this is the better choice we can each make and live by to achieve peace.
• United States
8 Sep 15
There is no "free will" in islam.
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
14 Oct 12
Here is the most important passage from your given link CNN could not confirm the authenticity of the audio.... It's not clear when the seven-minute message was recorded. Just how can you be so sure this audio is authentic while the news website are not sure of it. Is it not your hate which is driving you crazy and making you think wishfully.
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
16 Oct 12
Thank you once again. If you look at the history of all such audios and videos you will find this one element very common. The authenticity of almost all such audio and videos could never been proved. If you like to believe these are true, it is your choice and definitely reflects your biased approach. When you are being 'JUDGeMeNTAL' of my religion just by looking at a suspected video, you should expect me to 'JUDGe' your approach as well.
@Naseem00 (1996)
• Pakistan
16 Oct 12
artemeis, please ask yourself this very simple question. Why in this age of internet and other means of communications, would somebody make an audio message for their followers and post it on some website? What is the point? If I am at war I will try to camouflage instead of making myself public.
@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Oct 12
Old habits die hard. Check again yourself. The time line they are referring to is not as if the video is historical and unrelated to the attacks. As usual, you are again JUDGeMeNTAL that I have hate and am crazy. So much for your mentality-00? Tsk! Tsk!
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@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
14 Oct 12
True Muslim won't preach to the world to have war. Islam is a very jealous religion. They want to excel everything. They want to conquer the world. They want to killed in the name of Islam but if you based on the teaching of Islam written in Qu'ran. Allah didn't advice them to kill people for their faith like what terrorist did and shouting allahu akbar. Is this really true?
@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Oct 12
Considering what had just happened around the world, against the American's anti-Islam movie, I have to wonder how these radicals, fundamentalists or extremists like al-Qaida here, could still be alive and much more able to use Islam to encourage violence and terrorism. I cannot help but criticize the disparity and double standards treating such extreme factions in their circle against the non-Muslims like the Americans.
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@adhyz82 (36249)
• Indonesia
15 Oct 12
you misunderstand about Moslem and Islam read carefully from the holy book i think Islam never want to kill anybody like you said.. if there are terorist (in USA label) and they are moslem, it`s coincidence i think..but don`t generalize that all moslem are terorrist..It`s hurt for us..
@lampar (7584)
• United States
14 Oct 12
He just found himself a perfect excuse to wage his holy war in the name of islam, it won't matter it is blasphemy or not. He is more than an islamic cleric in his private life.
@lampar (7584)
• United States
14 Oct 12
I am sure he has a bigger goal to achieve inside his head, he want to turn all muslims into his holy warriors so that he can command a large battlion of army and become their chosen commander in chief. He sure know how to play his holy war game well if not perfect and manipulate his muslim followers as well as Osama.
• United States
14 Oct 12
adhyz82: With all due respect, that's false. People read the Quran and still interpret it differently amongst Muslim sects. Just as Christians interpret their Bible differently. And so on and so on. So what one reads, or I read, or Lampar reads, might be completely different than what you read. People have always interpreted scripture differently than others. If everyone interpreted it the same way, my good friend in Pakistan, Kira, wouldn't be living in a guarded community with military patrol simply because of the Ahmadi Muslim label.
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@adhyz82 (36249)
• Indonesia
14 Oct 12
it didn`t reflect Islam overall if the people want to know the real meaning of jihad, please read in the Holy Al Quran..
@adhyz82 (36249)
• Indonesia
14 Oct 12
iam moslem and of course there are many definitions about Jihad.. but in my terms, the real jihad application when the palestin survive and try to defend their land from israel, when afganishtan taliban saves their land from USA occupy and so on i don`t agree about what happen in USA embassy in Benghazi..
@artemeis (4194)
• China
14 Oct 12
Let me ask about your comment on Americans occupying Afghanistan, I do not think America had ever conquer and occupy Afghanistan? I stand to be corrected, but I believe it is a fact that the Americans liberated Afghanistan when they wage war against the Taliban and drove them out of the country. So, the Jihad are you talking about here is justifying that the Taliban's act of terrorism on the liberators is justifiable. Is that what you are trying to say?
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@adhyz82 (36249)
• Indonesia
15 Oct 12
artemeis, let i ask you first?? who gives order to USA comes to Afganishtan or Pakistan?? it`s the independent country and USA are the country.. USA is not UN..
@artemeis (4194)
• China
16 Oct 12
Please check around and do your homework before you ask me for the answers to your questions. Are you so naive as to think that America without any consensus could actually go into ANY country even for the matter of humanitarian assistance which by the way encompasses liberation by the use of military forces. I say stop reading articles from extremists sympathizers and come up with purported theories of your own.
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@rog0322 (2829)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
23 Oct 12
Hi, "Islam is derived from the Arabic root "Salema": peace, purity, submission and obedience. In the religious sense, Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to His law (http://www.barghouti.com/islam/meaning.html). I don't really go for the absolute meaning but looking at it from a certain perspective, it really is a peace-loving term. Now, for those who do otherwise can hardly be termed as such. Don't tell me I am a purist, I just go for what is readily apparent and perceivable. There are people who call themselves Christian, but their life can hardly be termed as such. The analogy is clear here, those who can't stand to their professed faith can't and should not claim that they are one, and can't be termed for it.
@artemeis (4194)
• China
23 Oct 12
There is no doubt in my mind that Islam means submission to the will of God and obedience to his laws. However like yourself, the Muslims do not go for the absolute meaning when it really is about peace loving and racial tolerance. Yet, it is disturbing that as much as it would like to be perceived to be one that is favorably mentioned, I believed we have seen just how much it could be equally abused by the extremists within their circle. Comparing the outbreaks to the Christians just begs to differ in magnitude and severity.