Amalayer - new victim of Cyberbullying...
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
Philippines
November 14, 2012 6:50am CST
Hello Lotters,
I saw this video last night around 12 in the evening coming from a Bayan Patroller. am sure that some of you have watch the video and at the first reaction you would feel against the girl.
I've heard in her interview with GMA-7 she has deactivated everything in the Internet. She's so humiliated, she didn't want her mom to know about. Some netizens believed she won't react that way if she lack sleep or lack in the mood + the way the lady guard's attitude on her when she's being search in the entrance. i don't know what the guard did, but the lady's reaction is what drew the netizen crowd.
All of us am sure have this moment she had last night. not every one can have humility and good manners all the time. but i feel sad the way she behave on video. but I feel anger to the one who recorded it..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWwhgyOuZe0
Just one girl being beaten by insults by thousands of netizens...
sometimes i wonder how long this will continue.
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43 responses
@xtianadam (62)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
I believe her reaction was wrong, I will not try to justify her actions as well. What I hate about the entire story is that they perceive the lady guard as an innocent helpless victim. I believe that the lady guard just met her match, I also believe the girl's version of the story is true, that the guard was rude and even tried to man handled her. I mean here in the Philippines, I am sure that many if not everyone has been mistreated by someone who is a person of authority. It is very common I'm sure, so in my opinion, (no offence meant to anybody) and this just me and my opinion, the girl was wrong and the lady guard also was wrong and deserved what she got from the girl.
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@emerillus (467)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
Hi!
if I were in her shoes and was mistreated by a guard, I'd go to her superior or the management and tell them my complaint, not tell the whole world what she just did. I'm no fan of being scandalous and I'd rather keep things as low profile as possible and I don't want any attention drawn to me if a guard should man-handle me. That way, because the guard is in the wrong, he or she will not be embarrassed in front of hundreds of people.
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@hexeduser22 (7418)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Indeed! You're barely scratched the surface though. When you meet others from US and India and other nations as well you'll definitely see opinions and shared ideas in a different level.
@xtianadam (62)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
hahah, you did bring me here, I was quite interested, discussions here are intellectually stimulating, and everyone are willing to open their mind/ perspective!!!!
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@gaiza12 (4884)
• Philippines
14 Nov 12
I heard it from a co-worker earlier and just watched the video a few minutes ago. I went in here to check if there are new discussions about her and I wasn't mistaken. I really wanted to know why the lady acted that rude. I am thinking with what I have just seen is that the lady guard must have done something that made the "jaime" ( i think that was the name of the girl) so mad. The guard must have been already too stressed with work and with the many people coming in and out of the station maybe that was why she was not able to addressed the girl properly. The girl on the other hand, maybe not in the mood, was already pissed by the crowd might have cause that rude reaction. Even so, she told the lady guard "my pinagaralan ako" she went to school, for that alone, I believe, she should have reacted like a civilized educated lady. They could talk it in private so as not to cause attention. She could have not been in the news, in social networking sites, youtube and so on if she handled it in an educated manner. I feel sorry for her, and it just gives us all a lesson. Even if we were not able to go to school, we can still try to handle things in a calm and civilized way. We can't really stop the people from taking videos if in the first place, we don't try to make a scene.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Gaiza12, I think her being a fighter got the best of her that's for sure. i pity this woman for getting tons of backlash from different netizens online, who for sure is more coward than this brave lady. though i think her behavior was disappointing but i believe her, unfortunately yet again the responses has caught the attention of he abusers. let's all learn from this mistake of hers. have a nice day.
@hexeduser22 (7418)
• Philippines
14 Nov 12
When she said the lines about her being educated it was already going down from there. I guess because of anger she said those harsh words. We can only speculate on what really happened because we weren't there in the first place.
We must admit though that even the greatest man in the world would lose his senses if he/she was never really in the mood and was really angry at that certain time.
I don't really think that the lady guard would be considering to talk to the girl in private. Given the fact there are really a lot of people, coming and going, in that particular time
@gaiza12 (4884)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
Yes, even the greatest man in the world would lose his senses at some point. But, she really went overboard when in fact she could have done it in a more civilized way. She can rage all she wants if they are already in the office or a holding area or somewhere with less people. She can call the officer of higher rank on duty so they could all talk this out properly. Both parties has their faults, she as an educated lady should have accepted the lady guard's apology thus could have not made any scene.
@beamer88 (4259)
• Philippines
14 Nov 12
I'm also disappointed with whomever recorded the incident, and the people getting into the bandwagon. It would've been acceptable for me if the entire incident was shown, but I guess this person only wanted the 'juicy' stuff. I mean, I for one don't know what had happened before this girl lambasted the lady guard. Maybe both were at fault. But people already passed judgment without knowing both sides of the story.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Beamer, Me too maybe he will regret it one day because she may have friends out there that could be support for her demise now. But the girl had it worse than any body who is a student and the only option that she has is to leave the country for good. people in our country are so rude and doesn't give her a break at all. this is yet again the price of our democracy. i hope people will just let go of it and move on.
@hexeduser22 (7418)
• Philippines
14 Nov 12
I totally agree with you on this one but then we all know that most of our fellowmen just follows the trend. They don't really know what exactly happened but then they kept passing judgement to that poor girl.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
Well, she did made a mistake by creating that attention. Am not aware how it all started, but the thing is, she doesn't have to react that way. And look what happened now? A lot took advantage over her "mistake" and had to drag her all over the internet.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Jenny1015, I don't think it's karma when she's continiously being bullied. unlike carabuena who came from the rich and works, she's obviously not working and studying as a student. this proves that we filipinos are way too cruel than those racist foreigners to our ofw's. i think the lesson is that we have to behave all the time. have a nice day.
@hexeduser22 (7418)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
It was really wrong for her to make a scene. We all know that it could have been handled properly but then it didn't went that way.
A lot indeed took advantage and became saints at the same time, throwing stones at her as if they were really clean.
A mistake can never be corrected by another mistake. She bullied a lady guard in the video but then she was bullied by a lot of people as well. Some would say it's karma but all I can see are bullies nothing more nothing less.
@mrsuniega (786)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
i saw this video in Facebook and it has been the trending video ever since it was started to be uploaded. I know it is really a disgusting scene at first because of the girl shouting towards the lady guard. at first I read "Amalayer" in tweeter but I didn't know it is a scene from the LRT station. A lot of pinoy net users reacted over the girl majority of it are hates towards the actions of the girl. Since the video started a shout scene we couldn't know what exactly happens between them, how did it started. So I think we don't have the right to accused the girl immediately since there is two sides of a true story.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Mrsuniega, unfortunately most netizens believed they were right to just abuse and humiliate the girl here. maybe in the states, people can complain like this and make the service men or women do their job well. but in the Philippines, people will react more to your actons and will give a bad kind of luck. but they don't like to favor the girl because of her shouting to the guard. Have a nice day.
@iluvusabado (2560)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
i saw the link of this video in a forum and the title say passenger berates lady guard if i remember it right. i just feel like pople judge "amalayer" with what they saw. please don't forget that the video did not catch why "amalayer" reacted that way. there are two sides of the story and i think she deserves to be heard.
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@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello iluvusabado, The typical filipino hater would use and malice her sentences and then put a new meaning to it. I still think the entire story is really Bias because it doesn't focus much on both sides, am glad that Gma7 interviewed both parties. I feel bad for the lady and may not be able to ride the LRT ever again because of this incident. have a nice day.
@hexeduser22 (7418)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
I do agree with you but people will always feel for the obvious without even knowing the whole story. If majority hates her and they are ones popular then for sure a lot would join their side.
A video is a video and it tells a story but it doesn't capture what's behind the scenes.
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
I guess saying her side of the story would lighten things up for her but I think there are still other bashers who take advantage of this. I think it is a harsh lesson for her to learn that education, position in life is not a good basis to disrespect anyone no matter how small or big the person you will insult.
It is always best to hold your temper and the choice of words when dealing with other people. The technology is just around everywhere where your action can easily be taken by unsuspecting strangers and misinterpreted that easy and be the new target for the net bashers.
If the guard was fault, then I guess the best that she could have done was complain to her superior and not doing her own ranting in front of the public which caught attention of everybody. This is somehow similar with the one caught bashing a defenseless MMDA traffic enforcer doing his job.
@rsa101 (38166)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
Well that was the real essence of the cybercrime law except for that provision that created all the controversies and having this law put to a stop.
But looking at the overall perspective of it all. The girl was at fault for trying to enter or making a short cut to enter the station. I think that caught the attention of the guard which irked her temper as well. If Amalayer's allegation was true then both of them should be disciplined. The guard for not being able to hold her temper for anyone trying to make a shortcut entrance and for the lady who lose her temper for being caught doing a shortcut.
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
Well, even if not right to bully someone else. That lady should think also that way when she bully the lady guard in front of many people. She is pretty good enough because she is not bullied in front of many people. Those people didn't know her and she don't know them...
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Aerous, I don't think she was thinking rationally when she did that but this proves that it takes maturity to measure what we have learned in education. though she took mascom, she should have been more calm instead of trying to be more scandalous. I think she has the right still for dignity despite of what happened. i feel anger towards those who takes advantage of what happened to her. have a nice day.
@ybong007 (6643)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
we can come up with all kinds of justifications on our behavior when we lose our temper and that girl is no exception. maybe I would sympathize if she spoke in the local dialect as that would mean she's real angry but being "kunyo" for the most part of it makes me think that she's practiced her lines beforehand and she did a great job, that is, annoying anyone who watch the video.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
Hello Cttolledo, I don't think i can stay something like that I might accuse of being a gay or not mature. we are humans but the way she was criticized and hated was completely uncalled for and it was way too much that she deleted everything that she thinks could be traced back. I don't want to call her that knowing she's suffered already.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
Hello Ybong, She likes and loves english language so much to the point of not considering the thinking of the guard. maybe someday they will behave from now on because of this. we can't have this kind of next generation attitude
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Mspitot, I feel sad about this, and don't feel fun seeing the parodies. just like with Chris lao, i didn't like the way he was treated, he may have made a mistake but didn't deserve to be treated like crap in the net. people who says they should move on doesn't understand how it's like to be cyber bullied.
@mspitot (3824)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
Whether she's just agitated or not, we can't deny that what she did was too much. Some other people around them were stopping her from saying bad things about the guard. She's just poor that someone caught her on video that is why her scandalous act was publicized more. She humiliated a poor guard publicly. And now she plays the victim now that her act spread.
@Paper_Doll (2373)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
In my opinion, she learned her lesson the hard way. I mean do you really have to behave that way in public? Do you really tell others that you are an educated person and should be treated fairly? Everybody should be given respect regardless of their education. With what she has done, I think that she's the one who caused humiliations to herself. It is just sad that it is not only her, the guards, or the people present that time would know about what happened, but people around the world.
If the guard did grabbed her, I think that the guard just did her job. Amalayer did not passed through security inspection and therefore should not be allowed to enter. Should we really allow someone to just passed through without inspection given the fact that they are educated? I don't think so. It is for our own safety and it is the security guard's job to make sure everyone would be inspected before going in.
I honestly think that the way she behave is improper. She could have just filed a complain against the guard if she really feels that the guard disrespect her. Does LRT have a video of the incident where the said guard did grabbed this girl? I am sure there are passengers who saw the incident and can prove that the guard did not behaved properly. But still, why on earth she just go straight without being inspected? If I were the guard, I would not also let her in. That's part of my job.
I know that she is really having a hard time because the video was all over the internet. Now, her mother and the rest of her family would know what she has done. I wonder what the mother would say? Because if it was my mom, definitely she won't take my side. I am sorry but she would never tolerate that kind of behavior.
We should always be careful on how we behave and treat other people especially in public and with the technology we have at present if we do not want to put ourselves in this kind of situation.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
Hello Paperdoll, I don't think educated person should act that way, maybe she saw how foreigners do it in the west but that wasn't okay one bit. the guards were okay specially the lady guard because she was indeed doing her job. maybe she thinks she can really get away with it and the guard was smart enough not to let her out. So sad for a person who studies masscom, she needs to take another course that doesn't involved public life or not even the radio. technology can be really troublesome but good in capturing the meanest attitude on video. have a nice day.
@Paper_Doll (2373)
• Philippines
19 Nov 12
CCTVs, cameras in general, have been very helpful nowadays in solving crimes and like you said, in capturing the meanest attitude of people. I do not know much about her but I heard she auditioned for a television program in the past. If she's still want to pursue masscom, she should learn how to handle this kind of situations better. This incident is not a reminder for her alone but for all of us that we should always be watchful not only with others but with our behaviour as well.
@chantalle25 (208)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
She said in an interview that the issue might have been resolved PRiVATELY, but how can it made private if she was there shouting in PUBLIC? I just felt bad for both of them (amalayer and the lady guard).
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Chantalle25, Because of the Lady couldn't believe what was done to her by the guard. but she can't help it because the way she was treated. but maybe if she had let it go, she could have gone her way, sometimes it doesn't have to be that scandalous if the guard made a mistake. she is very westernized but probably something people can never thought of doing. have a nice day.
@xtianadam (62)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
yeah, sometimes your temper can get the best of you, especially if what she was saying was true, I would have reacted that way too
@romzee (937)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
I have seen this video a day earlier and I don't give a dime to this kind of video.
This is a one sided video and does not reflect what really transpire between the lady guard and the girl. Although obviously from the video that she clearly over reacted thousands of netizens have no right to insult the girl for what has happened because they did not see the whole story. Wish the one who shot and uploaded this kind of one sided story to be more careful and should cover both side to give justice to all concern.
Have a nice day.
Ciao!
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Romzee, But they did and there was no stopping it at all. At first you thought it was kinda okay with Carabuena because of his acts, but to this girl who just fought for her right, i think we as asociety have become to cruel to judge and continously humilate this person over and over again. i hope things will settle in the future. Have a Nice day.
@xtianadam (62)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
I think romzee is right and I agree with you as well letranknight, some just want to ride the band wagon.
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@leeandrew (1225)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
I saw that video and have my share of emotion too. Actually, I can have the same anger too but would definitely not react the way she does. I could probably look into the eyes of the lady guard with a killer look like telling her I like to punch you in the face look, and would say something not polite... but not in a nagging way. hahaha.
I just hope though that it won't happen to me.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
Hello Leeandrew, I don't know if I can even give a killer look to the guard. Sometimes i believe it's not worth our time being enraged with a guard if they are following the security protocol. Well, you can always video the way they treat you with out seeing them at all. just hope the guards will be more respective now knowing one of their own were defended by the netizens. have a nice day.
@leeandrew (1225)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
There are people that are mean. I have encounter loads of them though, they kind of over do it. They let other people go easily but when it comes to you, they make things hard.
There was this one time when we want to inquire a checking account in a bank, actually we do have a savings account there already, the lady assists us did not bother looking us in the eye and asking what do really need to know about checking accounts. She go telling us that we need 60k to be able to open a checking account and dismiss us.
Oh, part of me want to yell at her telling her, but instead I told hubby lets go co's it's useless talking with her in a firm annoyed voice loud enough that she could hear it. But I also have the heart for people who is being yelled like that.
@brew2x (3094)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
She is irritating on that video for sure but I feel sorry for her, for all the negative attentions drawn to her. For sure something triggered her to be angry and made her to react like that but too bad she was caught on cam. Everyone should be careful now on how to react and should control their temper to prevent being another victim of cyberbullying, yes it is definitely cyberbullying what the netizens been doing to her. I think this issue will die down especially if there would be a new controversial video, unfortunately people will likely remember it even after a long time I guess.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
Hello Brew2x, Yup irritated indeed that many ridiculing her over and over again. well, at least we know what could have happened if we do the same thing to other people and bayan patrollers and youscoopers would allow to monitor all of us if we cause a scandal of some sort.
@vesuvius (1677)
• Philippines
14 Nov 12
This was the first time I've seen this recording and I find it disturbing in more ways than one.
First, I feel really bad that a college student (or is she a college student?) can speak to a person older than her in such a manner. I find it so ironic that she said "Ate, may pinag-aralan akong tao!" while her words are telling otherwise.
However, this one-minute recording does not tell the whole story - something might have happened that caused the girl to react rudely or whatever. Unfortunately for the girl, whether or not she was just provoked or whatever, the social network has already made her such an undesirable character.
I do not blame the people netizens for blasting upon her - it's only natural for people to feel empathy over the one apparently being oppressed.
With a kind of social media that we have right now, we all must be more responsible for whatever we say or do. With or without anybody recording, a person must always act with good morals and respect for other people.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Bingskee, I don't think any one wants to manage their anger, they are already managing their anger at schools, offices and other places were they work. only this video made the public knew her in a negative light. This proves how we are so cruel and unfair for us in giving way to much hate into this girl. well, she will manage her anger now and to be sure of not seeing in the public eye. have a nice day.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Vesuviius, Yes she is a college student and i think it started by the lady guard. your right it never tell the whole story except how they see her behavior. I wouldn't mind fif it guys like Carabuena violating a rule and threatening the MMDA, but this lady, feel sad for her. I hope every one tries to remain calm with all of this situation so that they won't get embarassed in public. have a nice day.
@angelkarah050182 (4980)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
I also feel sorry about her. I hope she didn't act that way. She overreacted. I guess even if we're that tired, or sleepless, or in a bad mood, we should not act that way. It's not good to belittle other people. Well-educated people know how to handle things like this. I hope this issue will die soon.She maybe learned her lesson already.It's her biggest mistake so far.I hope she would manage to keep her feet on the ground next time. It's not good to be rude or arrogant. Thanks for sharing. Happy mylotting.
@angelkarah050182 (4980)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
I agree with you. We should be humble at all times. If we are angry, then we can voice out our feelings but not drawing other people's attention. Her act will be remembered by many.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Angelkarah50182, It's easy to say but really hard to do if your tired or not in the good mood. It's definitely the biggest mistake of her life, am sure she's being comforted now as we speak. Well, i hope she takes a bit break so that she can go and study in other school.I think having humility and patience differs still from being educated. because if your educated you can try to be rational.
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@sinnedsejatnom (1311)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
I think partly, it's the fault of the uploader and mostly, it's the girls fault. I think even if we are at the peak of our anger, we should control our temper. It is important to note that public scandals like this could not happen if both parties agreed to just talk it out without raising voices. It's quite sad though that this lady gets the angry cyber mobs and lots of parody videos were made. With the incident, hopefully, all of us learn from it. Being a victim of cyberbully is not a simple case, it can lead great depression if we're not guided carefully.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
17 Nov 12
Hello sinnedsejatnom, I feel pity for that woman but i guess the guards deserve a more credit for being more assertive and effective. Christopher Lao nearly killed himself or almost because of how he was mistreated by the people of our country. Some people call it netizen vigilance, but i guess it's just a way to prevent others from doing the same thing.
@aabuda (1722)
• Philippines
14 Nov 12
She should be ashamed of herself. She humiliated the LRT lady guard...the lady guard was in fact doing her job of protecting and following rules and regulations of 'no search, no entry' policy of the department...that feeling social/"englishera" passenger who humiliated the lady guard did not undergo search for her bag in the x ray machine! So definitely, the lady guard will do her job by requesting that girl to abide by the rules and that she started to humiliate the guard!
She should suffer cyber bullying! She should ask apologies for what she did! She keeps on saying English, where in fact she is a very big wrong grammar! So pathetic for herself! She was telling the guard that she is an educated person! Well, she just proved where she's getting her education! So pathetic for her school!
@angelkarah050182 (4980)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
I am reading all the comments here and so far, yours got my attention. I agree with your comment but I guess her school has nothing to do with it. I think this is about her own personality. I guess there are many people like her bragging their education. LOL. She overreacted. That's it. She's already earning the bad consequences of her misbehavior these past few hours and maybe until now. Goodluck to her. I hope she learned her lesson not to humiliate and belittle other people. Happy mylotting.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Aabuda, She is ashamed of her reaction but now it seemed the public internet users are enjoying humiliating her over adn over again. I don't think she should suffer cyberbullying! I don't think she deserves being hit like that over and over again. I ask myself why we have to be so cruel to one another. right now i don't feel like hating her but feel sad for what she did. hope she can move on some day. have a nice day.
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@ally12 (1202)
• Philippines
14 Nov 12
Actually I believe this scenario is comparable to the case of Claudine Barretto happened months ago. I myself cant be sure to maintain a good manner if someone give me unpleasant behaviour or service, as a matter of fact I even had two different bad experiences with guards. Yes I talked to them with anger but I dont think to belittle them just like what that student did is a big no no. Its alright to insist our right and what is right but maybe lets present our concern with mores and nothing personal. So what if we are educated and theyre not? So what if we are elite and theyre not? maybe if that student who claimed herself being educated has acted like one and seek proper assistance rather berating that lady guard would possibly claimed honor rather bad reactions from many people.
For the issue of cyberbullying I cant establish my exact side on this matter but one thing Im pretty sure once we do something may it right or wrong there will always be consequences or return.
@LetranKnight25 (33121)
• Philippines
16 Nov 12
Hello Ally12, I don't know but am not an english teacher and have no right to criticize your english most specially this site doesn't criticize english writing. I think both made a mistake but it's just her reaction was called for and the hate of the people. She was just mad that's all, I feel sad she got bullied over and over again. Have a Nice day.
@ally12 (1202)
• Philippines
15 Nov 12
I think I have to correct some of my words here but I dont think to belittle them just like what that student did is a big no no.
I rather say it but I think to belittle them just like what that student did is a big no no.
Sorry there Letran Im a real mess in English language haha..