Are you an ape?
By Mavic123456
@Mavic123456 (21893)
Thailand
November 18, 2012 1:37am CST
Science says, "Million of years ago, humans and apes came from apelike ancestors. Their theory: That man was a combined environmental and genetic factors that produced the variety of etnicities". http://www.allaboutscience.org/evolution-of-man.htm Whew, I will not make this discussion very long for scientific findings and testing. There are lots of views and tests actually based on the Science Research. Such as the famous Charles Darwin's Theory "Evolution of Man" and the search for the "missing link" to make the ape a man (good thing not woman, just kidding). Moreover, through the years and as earth getting older and older, there are many breakthroughs setting up on its face. Technology is getting more advanced and people are getting hungier to know more about almost everything. However, the Genesis is being left out as it turned out that many peole are questioning the existence of the Word or worse, don't believe in it anymore? In conclusion, if we there is no Genesis then we came from ape. Hmmm... do you accept that you are an ape. Where did humans come from? We are not just mushrooms that grew on the land. There must be a beginning? We must have something to believe in, God, Allah, Buddha, Aliens. We must have origins, don't we?
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@deazil (4730)
• United States
25 Nov 12
There may be times after a workout that I might smell like an ape. Sorry, I couldn't resist. I use to ponder over this many years ago. It was very interesting to me at one time. You've asked several questions in your comments. Let me address the question of why did God let Darwin come up with his theory. Because we were given free will. I assume that means free to discover whatever we may and what we do with that information is the important thing. There is much abuse of information these days (not necessarily Darwin's theory, just information that could become harmful). The human population has become like children with no parental supervision. Have you ever read the book or seen the movie "Lord of the Flies"? Very interesting study in the psychology of the rise of power and peer interactions and reactions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_of_the_Flies And what would an ape say if asked ...? No self respecting ape would ever admit to being related to humans. I believe evolution is always happening. Polar bears are seldom having two cubs now as opposed to the past. This is (supposedly) due to the decline in food availability and loss of habitat. And they aren't the only ones that are changing. I believe in a supreme power and also evolution. Evolution has been proven. We might also be an experiment (gone horribly wrong) conducted by a more intelligent alien life force. Theories, facts and scientific proofs abound. We all choose a belief according to our religion or upbringing or for any number of reasons. I saw a very good British mini series (3 episodes) in the late 80's called "First Born" (1988). I think you would find it quite interesting. I liked it very much. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Born It was quite a powerful drama. Also, I found this a very interesting article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humanzee All very intriguing.
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@deazil (4730)
• United States
25 Nov 12
Most times I feel as if I have no energy. But you are provoking me to think. And keeping me quite busy at that. I read Lord of the Flies when I was about 16 and saw the movie many years later on TV. Not sure but I think it was the 1990 version. It was quite horrifying to watch their degeneration.
Yes, the world will end. Don't know when. But there are so many things causing our demise, other than environment and things beyond our control. GMOs, potassium bromate (highly toxic, banned in China, allowed in US) in bread, big food corporations poisoning us, The FDA looking the other way, Big Pharma with medications that in the end kill or maim or otherwise take away quality of life, the medical profession who backs up Big Pharma for $$$, and the list goes on. When people learn to be more self reliant and boycott these industries only then will things change. Young people in their 30's get cancer. The rates are high. Doesn't anyone realize where it's coming from? It makes me want to scream. I don't like to think about the poor animals of the world. It makes me cry to think of what will/is happen/ing to them.
Yes, I think God created man through evolution. After all, if he created everything he also created evolution.
So glad the odor can't travel that far. (actually, I don't really work out. But it sounded good)
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
25 Nov 12
quite a comment from a no energy person. LOL. Yes, I will check on those films/series and download it if i can, it sounds interesting. I have read the synopsis of the Lord of the flies and it is quite intriguing. Whew such life, survival and instincts.
If the world is diminishing it means that it is going to end soon? Not this coming month but soon as food source is deplating. They first then we humans next we take food from them aren't we.
Based on what I have understood from your explanation, in spite of having these evolutions and scientific findings, you still believe that we came from God's creation?
**note about the smell... it's okay you are too far from us to smell you. LOL.
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
25 Nov 12
by the way I responded by questions to those comments to make a discussion. for them to answer and prove their answers. (like what you say, make it a discussion, remember you are my teacher and I follow your advices)
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
While you are not an ape you are a primate and as such the apes are members of your extended family.
de omnibus dubitandum
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
Who can say that you are a primate? What proves that you are one? The Theory of charles Darwin?
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
You are not an ape you are human being. I am too am not an ape. LOL, Relax, just a point of discussion, our ancestors believed that we we all came from God as his creation. (no matter what kind of God they had). Until the Theory of Charles Darwin came up. Why did God allow that to happen? And now people search more and more and more for this mystery. He should not allow that to be discovered so that there will be no confusion now.
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
18 Nov 12
No i dont i just ask. Peace man. I came here in peace. LOL. Anyway according to another theory, Cambrian studies, they said that fossils didn't change during their tenure on earth. http:www.allaboutcreation.org/stages-of-man-evolution-faq.html. what can you say about that?
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
18 Nov 12
I didn't mean to be argumentative but this topic has been raised so many times (and with much the same answers) that I am just very tired of those people who don't understand the difference between a 'theory' and a 'hypothesis'.
Evolution is an established fact. The Bible (and other religious texts) was written long before people had any understanding of things which we know to be facts today and it was written in an age when people understood that stories and legends were NOT like a news story in a newspaper - they accepted allegory and metaphor as a valid method of expressing basic truths without believing that the description actually meant literally that things happened in that way.
What is remarkable about the Creation myths recorded in the Bible (there are at least two separate ones which are NOT identical in their detail) is that they are far more accurate in their sequence of events than any other of the many different creation myths which one finds in other cultures.
I'm afraid that the website that you mention is dedicated to 'proving' that the Biblical record is literally true and that evolution is not a proven fact at all. Unfortunately, it is (or tries to be) 'pseudo-scientific' in its language and contains many untruths and completely unfounded statements.
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
I am not arguing too owl. In fact I liked your comment. Yes of course, we need to see also some points of view regarding this. thanks so much. Peace man.
@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
Genesis is no more than a collection of myths and folklore. It is one of thousands of creation myths and there is no reason to consider it any more valid than any of the others.
de omnibus dubitandum
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@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
We all are the product of a long evolutionary process. I can trace my ancestry back to Africa but there is nothing unique in that since all members of the human species do. I take pride in the fact that within me is genetic material that I share with every other life form on this planet. From this knowledge of my relationship with all other life comes a deep respect for all life.
de omnibus dubitandum
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
So if we are the result of the evolutionary process, in the future our human forms will change to another form, because it is evolutionary. It will not just be fair if it will stop to our existence. don't you think so. I like your answer by the way.
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
Life as I have said is such full of mysteries. One is different from the other, no exactly the same even the twins. But wher do you more inclining. where did you come from?
@micheal123 (184)
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20 Nov 12
I do not believe in this theory myself just because how long has man been man in history the records go back centuries so my question to this would be if we evolved from apes to men,then why did it stop.
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
20 Nov 12
who knows if the evolution stopped already. Maybe in the future we will be creating a new human form. We are evolving right?
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
25 Nov 12
but in the theory we evolve physically that's we came from
@micheal123 (184)
•
25 Nov 12
no not really not physically like we are talking about,just technology is evolving but that is not a natural change it is a man made evolution.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
30 Aug 18
@Mavic123456 I've heard that we share 98.6% of our DNA with Chimpanzees. I think it's fascinating. Monkeys / apes etc have so many similarities to humans. Their feelings, the way the interact, their reactions / facial expressions. It's amazing.
I am all for hearing out opinions about how we are and how we came to be but my mind is always going to think that no one truly knows the answer. I can't pick one answer of how we came to be unless I see proof. I know theories are out there with proof or what looks like proof but haven't really looked into all that yet personally.
Still a fun adventure trying to work it all out. What annoys me is that people spend too much time fighting about it instead of trying to work it out together peacefully.
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
30 Aug 18
Wow this has been a long time discussion, where did you dig this up. but anyway thanks for bringing up the memories.
Yes, but I think that's make us diverse, when we discuss, disagree or agree
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
1 Sep 18
@VivaLaDani13 A different kind of way eh, OCD? well if it works that way, then good for you. thanks
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
1 Sep 18
@Mavic123456 haha because this is how I work here on MyLot. I do answer discussions randomly at times but I mainly go through every single discussion a MyLotter has ever done. It's actually an OCD thing for me to do.
@natliegleb (5175)
• India
19 Nov 12
no definitely not because it was long ago and now we have evolved a lot and now we are in the right track of caring and being just about humans
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
What if Charles' Theory is right? What if we indeed came from the ancestry of apes?
@nelerkz (467)
• Philippines
19 Nov 12
Humans didn't evolve from apes rather, we and apes evolved from a common ancestor (who is no longer with us, we have no fossils proving this fact, but we believe it anyway). The relationship is more like cousin than parent-child. :)
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
What is the common ancestor then. Can you elaborate friend? Welcome back by the way ;)
@averygirl72 (37845)
• Philippines
19 Nov 12
Charles Darwin could be somehow right because apes have similarity with humans but I would likely agree that apes should not be around anymore if they already evolved into humans? For me God can create hundreds of creatures he like to see roaming on earth and if we have animal look alikes I guess its completely possible.
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
"If we have animal look alikes I guess its completely possible", our ancestors are apes? Why then allowed this to surface? For science and religion to debate on? Hmmm...
@ruinattack (52)
• United Arab Emirates
18 Nov 12
Science states stuff without any concerns about religion. For me, I disregard Darwin's Theory of Evolution because I am totally convinced it is not true. In my religion, Allah told us that we were created humans, not apes and then evolved into humans. Even it is a disgrace for our ancestors to be considered as animals. So no, we are NOT apes or ARE NOT descended from apes, regardless of what science says or assumes.
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
18 Nov 12
Hmmm.. that is why they are Science. There are lots of theories that have proof and evidence supporting them. So what's the question about it?
@mantis36 (4219)
• Philippines
20 Dec 12
Both SCIENCE and RELIGIONS are all just theories, either blasphemy or not it's all theories.
SCIENCE source is by way of experimenting, solid evidence, a lot of fossil evidences to support the claim, updated theories with another new discoveries that the evidence are more solid compare to the previous.
RELIGIONS sources is by way admitting it true what was already written and said by the forefathers even though there are no solid evidences to support the claims, and thumb-marked as blasphemy if someone commented a negative approach.
That for every different religion's, either Christians or None-Christian religions they will all never unite each other, resulting to:
One Religion said:
The world earth created in 7 days, plus 6,000 years and counting
Other Religion said:
The world earth created in 7 billion years (1 day for God is 1 billion years to mankind)
I still believe that we humans were the most higher form of animal on earth, that's why anyone of all accepted the fact that we are in a MAMMAL category of animal, were not reptiles, fish, amphibian, insect, bacteria or birds.
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
21 Dec 12
Mantis, so you believe that we are animals and your ancestors were apes?
@akmalia89 (41)
• Indonesia
18 Nov 12
yes we do have origins. i wont say that my ancestor is ape. i don't really like the idea that human are from ape. when they say that human is from ape. then why there is ape till now?? if all human race ancestor is ape. then don't you think all the ape will become human, and there will be no ape anymore in this planet.
have you ever think about my opinion?
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@Chiang_Mai_boy (3882)
• Thailand
18 Nov 12
Modern Apes and modern Humans share a common ancestor but have evolved separately from that ancestor.
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
akmalia, what if the apes are asked now, they denied that they produced humans, because they are better than us? How would you feel about it?
@doroffee (4222)
• Hungary
18 Nov 12
That we have evolved from apes, does not mean that we are apes (like we don't say elephants are mammoths...). But if someone wants to simplify it, and ask, I would say yes, I am an ape. Because it's scientifically proven - it's not a question of belief, it's a fact. There might be a supernatural power, as we have no true proofs for how the world has evolved and shaped, but that, in my opinion, is not an appropriate basis for telling that those researches are stupid... because even if the world/universe/Earth was created by a supernatural power, it could still have organisations, from which different creatures evolved.
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
20 Nov 12
I have been posting here for several times already and I just cant. Sorry for the delay of my responds i did not ignore you I just can't post really. Anyway, no reseaches had been told stupid and I agree with this. Who do think has this supernatural power to creat world/universe/earth?
@vrixxz (46)
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19 Nov 12
personally I disagree with Darwin's theory since my religion told me that we are humans were created differently from an ape
while it's true that some civilization were cursed to becoming an ape, but they are not last long, I believed they were only last a few days or so
that alone means, there are some apes that created (by that means, cursed) from a human, but not the other way around
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
From this discussion most of us had been disowning the ancestry of apes. What do you think if apes were asked .. like, where you origins of humans? Will they deny or accept that?
@Anshee (49)
• India
25 Nov 12
Yes i do belive that we came from ape because science has proven theories behind this as it was given by charles darwin rest today genetic enfineering and recombinat DNA technology has proven by dna sequencing of both apes and humans that they were our ancestors not exactly apes but gorillas we have 99% of same DNA rest one percent differs that makes us different from them that 1 percent DNA is responsible for traits like.. Speech, gymnastics that a monkey can perform 100 times better than a human and many more traits, but yeah we are originated from gorillas no doubt.
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
26 Nov 12
Ohh just a matter of questions no offense meant here okay? That means to say that, we have the chance of having gorillas in the clan in the future? and if we evolve there will be some chances that in the future this human figure will form into another life form. what do you think?
@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
18 Nov 12
Hi Mavic, To my way of thinking it is all a great mystery.It is my personal opinion however, that we are spiritual beings having a human experience. I feel that our lives did not begin with this body and will not end with it.Maybe everything in the universe, indeed in all universes, is somehow connected.It is possible that humans have been on this earth far longer than even science suspects. Is it possible that we came from the stars? We know that many planets have self destructed in the past, and maybe some of their inhabitants emigrated here hundreds of thousands of years ago. Having come from different planets, might also explain the different races. I believe in evolution to the extent that humans today look quite different from our ancestors. Blessings.
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
19 Nov 12
Yes, this is what's good in LIFE it is full of mysteries and Life in infinite. I mean, we really don't know where we started, maybe we started from a mushroom and just grew in human forms. Thats true LIFE is mysterious and intriguing. LOL
@humairaku (2038)
• Indonesia
18 Nov 12
sure i dont agree at all that scientist said we come from an ape. i have religion and my religion teach me that the first human created by God is Adam. then God created Eve as his wife. and as we know then they were sent away to the earth cos they broke God's rule about apple or something. they lived in planet earth, had children then human developed themselves both the amount and the culture. im sure all of them are possible cos human has a brain. Adam is also a prophet. He was taught by God to do these and those. and after thousands years, here we are. beside, in my religion God said that God created human in the best shape among God's creatures. and im sure ape has the best shape. for someone who doesnt religion or has different view in seeing this, i will respect them. for me i believe what God said in the Holy Book rather than what scientist said or researched. God is almighty and we are nothing..
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@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
18 Nov 12
Yes I agree with that. Then why did God create science and allow this Charles Darwin's theory to surface on earth. If He did not allow this to come out then there will be no evolution of man to discuss about and debate on for century already.
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
18 Nov 12
What if there is really an evolution of man? What if God allowed the missing link to be found? Would you still not believe in the theory of evolution. It is science and has made a lot of scientific studies about it?
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
18 Nov 12
Yes you are unique individuals that's why people. But other creatures are unique too right? So uniqueness is not unique afterall.
@jazzyme (113)
• Philippines
18 Nov 12
No one saw if God really made us but we believe he did.And I did not see man emerged from ape but there are some theory.As for me I believed more that God made us because my faith is greater than my beliefs.God bless us all children of God.That is nice to hear than God bless us all apes right?lol..
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
18 Nov 12
LOL. I think if we are apes no God will bless us but it will be Charles Darwin or his missing link. Do you agree?
@Pen_Pal777 (245)
• Philippines
18 Nov 12
different religious beliefs and science have different explanations or theories on where we came from. i am a christian, and i believe more on what my religion says about where i came from than believing in what charles darwin said about the evolution of man. It is more easier to believe my religion than to believe what darwin said. there are many missing links involved in his theory.
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
18 Nov 12
Ok. Glad to hear this. What if the missing links are found? Would still insists your beliefs?