If you knew a co-worker was lying, would you tell your boss?
By RescueLady
@bizness (866)
United States
November 28, 2012 9:51pm CST
I ask this because my daughter had an incident at her job. One of her co-workers was clocking in by computer and then showing up late for work, or leaving early and clocking out the same way. The system was set up so they could access it by computer (which by the way was very stupid on their part). Anyway, he eventually was caught and of course fired. My daughter knew nothing about it but said another person working with her did. The boss found out and they were fired also.
So, do you think the other person should have spoken up about it? And do you think it was right they were fired as well?
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9 responses
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
1 Dec 12
It is really hard to be involved coz even if you mean well, others might think you are just trying to impress your boss. But then again, maybe if you know someone who does this, you might tell him.her that it should be stopped or else something really bad might happened.
As with firing those people who was cheating with their time, I think they deserved it. Why would a company trust a person who doesn't know how to abide by simple rules imposed by the company.
@bizness (866)
• United States
6 Dec 12
This is true. Some people would think you were trying to be the boss's pet or something. It's a good idea to maybe confront the person and tell them to stop and wait to see what happens. The only thing with that is if the boss finds out that you knew then you could lose your job as well.
And yes, they should be fired. If you can't trust them, you can't trust them.
@guanguan430 (17)
• China
30 Nov 12
Maybe I will choose to only tell my boss the system has this bug secrectly, not to report to him that who are cheating. Because whistle-blower is not easy to get along with the other colleagues.
@bizness (866)
• United States
6 Dec 12
That's not a bad idea except, will the boss then wonder how you know this?
@chiyosan (30183)
• Philippines
30 Nov 12
i think if this was the case, i would surely let our boss know that the set up of the system or policies about logging in on the system is exposed to a lot of issues especially for those who may intend to cheat the company's time. I would not directly pin point someone but if i was an assistant to the boss, it is surely my task to inform the boss of what's happening, but if we are both on the same level in the organization, perhaps what i can do is to warn this officemate of mine the danger of what she was doing if in case she gets caught, or if the boss sees in the system that he is logged in already and that he/she is not around then that's a problem.
@bizness (866)
• United States
6 Dec 12
I agree with everything you are saying. It's such a difficult thing. I really think that when somone does what this coworker did, it not only cheats the company, but it's so unfair to everyone else that works with this person. It puts everyone in an awkward situation due to one person's dishonesty.
@sender621 (14893)
• United States
29 Nov 12
I would probably just bide my time. sooner or later the lie would catch up with the coworker and they would be caught in their own deceit. they would end up telling the boss themselves without even knowing it.
@bizness (866)
• United States
2 Dec 12
That's sort of how my daughter felt about the situation. They will eventually get theirs in the end.
@Zer0Stats (1147)
• India
29 Nov 12
Yes your daughter should report them to your boss ASAP.They are essentially stealing money from the company she works for.
@bizness (866)
• United States
2 Dec 12
lol That's what I was just posting on a post just before yours. It is stealing and yes needs to be reported...period.
@Shavkat (140119)
• Philippines
30 Nov 12
I will definitely inform the boss. I don't want to be involved for such actuation. We need to be responsible to have our own dignity.
@bizness (866)
• United States
6 Dec 12
True. As I've said, it's just such a bad situation. Of course we want to 'tell' the boss but then we don't want to be the one to create trouble or anything like that.
@LovingMyBabies (85288)
• Valdosta, Georgia
29 Nov 12
I think the mature and responsible thing to do was tell the boss if they knew the person was cheating the system. Basically the person was cheating everyone else too.
How is it fair that others had to be at work and did the right thing and this person was cheating the system and getting paid for it, you know?
I am not sure if firing the person that knew was completely fair, maybe putting them on suspension for a little bit or something like that would have been sufficent but then again I am too nice which is why I would NEVER be a boss! Lol, so maybe it is just my niceness talking here...
@bizness (866)
• United States
2 Dec 12
I agree totally! I think the person should have told their boss, and yes the one cheating should have been fired but I do think,like you, that it was a little harsh to fire the one that knew. Sometimes it's hard to come forward and tell something like that.
@wfhchristiner (352)
• Canada
29 Nov 12
I think firing is just too much. It is not the right thing to cheat, but of course the system has a flaw. Everybody makes mistakes either intensionally or not. In the work environment, it is part of the HR function to deal with this. It is not right to fire the person right away. There should be a notice first, then see if the employee improve or not. If not, then there should be a second notice. If it is violated then fired is the last option. The same thing should happen to the person who knew but hide it.
And of course, it is part of the company to fix the problem and to prevent this type of cheating.
@bizness (866)
• United States
2 Dec 12
For me, as I stated earlier, being the person that knew and didn't tell, not sure. I think firing is too much in their case. I don't know how I would handle that situation, I'd like to think I would go and tell what I know, but...
Now, as an employer, I'll be honest, if you cheat me then you are fired. Period. That is the same as stealing and I will not give a second chance, and definitely not a third! Being late, leaving early, taking too many sick days, those things I can handle and tolerate, to a point, but cheating and getting hours you didn't work, nope, sorry, you're gone!
@bizness (866)
• United States
2 Dec 12
I know this kind of thing goes on a lot. It's hard trying to figure out what to do in this case. I honestly don't know. I know I can say I would tell but put on the spot, who knows. It's hard to do that even when you know it's wrong what they are doing.