How do u value life? I hav a friend hu recently aborted a child, I feel guilty!
By alias_paul
@alias_paul (134)
Philippines
December 9, 2012 10:24am CST
Last week a story came to me that an old friend got pregnant and aborted her baby. Sad! It really shocks me a lot as I heard of the news. I never expected that she can end a life of an helpless baby. I feel guilty of what she did to that very innocent angel. It makes me think deeper of how she truly value life, does she have this conscience of doing such cruel thing? Did she even tried thinking of it trice or more?
You, how do you value life?
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19 responses
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
9 Dec 12
I value life highly, but I would not judge the actions of your friend because I have no knowledge of the circumstances that led her to such a decision. I am sure that many people will happily condemn her actions irrespective of circumstances, but it is too easy to formulate such opinions in the comfort of having no personal involvement.
There is a vast difference between making a callous decision because she does not want responsibility and the making of such a decision as a result of traumatic circumstances. I am not suggesting that abortion is right, just that we do not know the reason for her decision.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
9 Dec 12
Of course not, ending a life even before it has begun is a seriously drastic solution and could never be considered the best option. Sadly, your friend may spend the rest of her life regretting it and constantly wondering how different her life might have been.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
9 Dec 12
You seem to be making a big issue out of the simple fact of my choice of words. It may have been more appropriate to have written never a desirable solution.
If you have also read my initial comment then you will notice that I was not prepared to judge because I did not know the circumstances, so trying to pick a single sentence to protest against seems a little absurd, especially since the rest of my statements oppose that interpretation.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
Maybe we are really in different pace of the world and of the situation. It is true the we are facing different problems and having different reasons but then for me what ever the reason is even though it is very tough ending someone's life is not the best solution. I cannot blame her either for that for maybe she was in the state of panic that she do not know what to do with the baby but still killing an innocent life is not the best option.
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@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
9 Dec 12
was it yours?/ no need to feel guilty.. she made the decesion. Im sure she thought about it long and hard before doing it. She must have had good reasons for it.
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@prashu228 (37524)
• India
9 Dec 12
I agree she must have thought twice before taking such decision , there might be some serious reason as well.
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@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
No it wasn't mine. Oh well, That is how she value life then. How sad!
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@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
There is maybe. I will go to her tonight to give her my side and advice her.
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
9 Dec 12
Why should you feel guilty? It was her choice, and only her choice to make, you cannot make the choice for her. I believe that we should enjoy today and not worry about tomorrow, not to take things or people for granted and count our blessings, no one knows what is around the corner. Enjoy life as much as you can, we only get one shot at life and it's far too short.
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@polaroidsredwine (509)
• United States
10 Dec 12
It's not the penultimate goal of a woman to have a child, and there are mothers out there who really don't have the barest inkling of concern for their children - just because a person has an abortion doesn't mean they don't care at all for life, because it's a personal decision often made before the baby to be has a chance of being viable outside the womb.
@meumeu25 (917)
• United Arab Emirates
9 Dec 12
Hi,
I am against abortion, it is like a murder because it ends a life of a helpless fetus which soon to become a baby if it's mother takes care of it. I hate to hear that some women do this, whatever mistakes they did is their fault not their baby's, they don't seem to care about the life that is growing inside them. But for some reason, I am also trying not to judge and understand this women, because honestly speaking/writing, I myself can never say never.
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@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
Maybe your right, but I am not judging her. It is just how I express it. Maybe there is a reason behind it but what ever reason it is she must have think that she's dealing with life. A very innocent life, a life that can not speak for its own, a life that have no strength to protect its self. I am just sad about it. It was a baby girl.
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@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
11 Dec 12
As I thought, she is really in great depression and she really need someone besides her for now.
@robspeakman (1700)
•
9 Dec 12
I do not have a clue why you feel guilty?
It is only your opinion that this action was cruel.
I suspect that your religious beliefs lead to this opinion.
You God is the one to judge and not you.
I suspect that the more hardcore religious folk who respond to this will ALSO FORGET - That you do not JUDGE.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Dec 12
hi right on judge not lest ye be judge d. there are times when abortion is
necessary and we should not be judging anyone. I dislike abortion but there are times when one must weigh things in the balance,save a mom becomes one of them.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Judging is not the right word to say. I was carried away by the action but I do not blame her. Maybe she really has a deeper reason why she did that thing.
@maximax8 (31046)
• United Kingdom
10 Dec 12
I value life really highly indeed. I think that every pregnancy should result in a live baby. That baby should be loved by his or her own parents. If they don't want him or her then adoption is the best option I think.
I have seen a program called I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant. The ladies shown on that program don't have any idea that they are pregnant. They have severe pain and are shocked if they go to hospital and find out they are in labor. Sometimes the lady gives birth at home unaware that she is pregnant.
I don't like abortion at all. I let my disabled son be born and I treasure him. It was such a great shame that your old friend aborted her baby. She did a cruel thing and maybe she feels depressed about what she did. In early pregnancy a lady can have mixed emotions. There can be an unplanned but wanted pregnancy. Maybe the boyfriend of your friend put on pressure making her abort her baby possibly.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Life is something we should respect. It is a sacred gift from God. For unborn baby, it is very sad not to experience living in the world, not having a chance to have a little glimpse of the sky.
Some say, life is too short so don't worry about those people who would do abortion, rather live life to the fullest. (I think they are so selfish about saying those words.)
@dragon54u (31634)
• United States
9 Dec 12
We often have different values when we are young than we do when we are older. She may not realize how precious a child is or she may have feared that she could not support the child with even enough food.
When I was very young a friend of mine got pregnant. We were both 18 and abortion was only legal in a faraway state. She did not want a child and indeed, she was cruel to children unwittingly since she herself was horribly abused all her life by her parents. I did not realize that at that time how precious life was. I believed everything that was said about it being just a collection of cells that had no awareness and that it wasn't really a person until it was born. So I borrowed money and drove her to that state and she killed her child.
Here I am 40 years later and I have felt guilty for so many years over my role in ending her child's life. I have changed and seen enough of life that I know that children are our most valuable resource, gifts from God. I did not have this attitude back then. As I said, we all grow and change and that is why we have so many regrets as we age.
Studies show that most women regret abortions later and most of them suffer depression. Rather than judge your friend and feel guilty yourself, be there for her if she needs someone to talk to. She's done an awful thing that she can never take back and it will blight her soul and spirit for the rest of her life.
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@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
I guest your right about that. I'll give her some advice and I hope that I can make her win her conscience. May the good Lord forgive her for what she did.
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@lampar (7584)
• United States
9 Dec 12
You can't truely feel guilty of something that you didn't do, it is your friend that ended the baby's life, not you, there is nothing much you can possibly do to save that innocent little angel; unless your friend is willing to take your advice and decided to spare the baby's life for once. It is useless for you continue blaming yourself for somethings you never be able to stop and prevent with your limited power. May be your friend doesn't has anymore conscience inside her after knowing the fact she is pregnant, her value on life had changed drastically since then when she is the one is control of another human life, she believe she can do whatever she desire with her own body instead of you. Yes, i value life and respcet life as it is no matter it is belong to a fetus, baby, child or adult. It is somethings i consider as sacred given by God.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Your right! The fact that I am blaming myself is something that is not right to do. I may have been carried away by my emotion last night. I not blaming her for what she did for maybe she has a deeper reason behind her chosen action. I value life so much that I respect even the life of the small being, and other creature that has life.
@lacieice (2060)
• United States
9 Dec 12
To start with, I am pro-choice. I believe a woman has the right to choose.
Since you seem to have no idea what thought process she went through, I really can't understand your view. I'm sure she gave a great deal of thought to what to do, and we don't know what her reasoning was.
It's not fair to judge others by our own standards, because, as the saying goes, "there but for the grace of God go I". Before you decide that she doesn't value life, you need to walk a mile in her shoes.
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@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
I think your right. I am not condemning her. Sorry for that. I just feel pity for that lost life.
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@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
It is really sad to know that someone would really go to the extent of ending the life of an innocent child. The child didn't ask to be conceived and I think that it is a selfish act. I am so sorry for what I just said. But I guess, some people would just be doing something stupid just to save her neck. The child should be a symbol of love between man and a woman. And I feel sorry for her that she has to deal with this. And I think that she will carry the guilt all through her life.
She should have thought of how she could have given that child a wonderful chance of having a life. A lot of women are trying to conceive themselves but are not lucky enough to even have one child.
We only have one life to live. And we should be able to make our lives worthwhile. Our lives can never be regained once we breathe our last breath.
@jenny1015 (13366)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Well, I think that every human being should be compassionate about a new life being formed. I could not imagine how must be clouded your friend's thoughts were when she did it. But I do hope that she is fine after what she did- physically, emotionally and psychologically.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
She must be in great depression right now. I will going to visit her tonight. Hope I can give her a good advice.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Wow! I like that! I do not really feel how mothers feel about having a life inside their womb, but the fact that they are carrying a life whether it is malformed or what so ever is significantly saying that they are responsible for it. And that they are oblige to care for it.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
I value life more than anything in this world. And it hurts me so much hearing this, reminds me of a friend who did the same thing. In fact, I have made as well a similar discussion here about a year ago. But we cannot do nothing as this is their life and their decisions. We do not know what they feel when thinking about doing such act or how they felt after doing it.
@enelym001 (8322)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
That's true, Because I have tried to. Gave my best advice but still my friend have decided.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
In some way you are right. That we cannot control their decision in life. Thanks for the share!
@franseman (516)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Well, I guess your friend is Pinay. What I see in the Philippines is that too many people get children eventho they don't have enough money to give their kids everything they need. WHAT is cruel here? Sure, she could/should have taken precautions. Maybe she got news the baby would be suffering a bad disease. Never having the chance to live a dignified life.
I'd say: NEVER judge on others unless they don't take their responsibilities.
@franseman (516)
• Philippines
11 Dec 12
Well it's not only the women of course. Men should take their responsibilites as well.
Aside from that thegovernment should stimulate family planning more. It's the churches that are against it. The churches don't care about the wellness of the people. They rather see young women with kids begging in thestreets than seeing that woman being more happy without a kid. In my eyes that's disgusting. Churches don't help people.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
11 Dec 12
I also agree with it that some churches are being arrogant and dominating other people, but there are religious groups who really supports poor people by heart.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
What you have said is somehow realistic. Something that should not be set aside. I can not judge you about your comment to other Pinay for that is how you sees them. It is your freedom of expression.
@michie198 (32)
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10 Dec 12
I do not agree with abortion with no exceptions as I am adopted and living great. If I was aborted instead of given a chance to at least live I would not be here. I don't think your friend is without a conscience though. People make mistakes no matter what the sin is. Some people do not want to raise a child, some people are worried about no money or have no father for the baby. Either way it is wrong in my eyes but I think the best thing to do is be there to support her. Help her avoid poor choices that lead to such drastic measures in the future.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
Thank you for your suggestion my friend. I think that is the best option that is there now.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
I hope so. I will visit her later after doing my lot. Hope I can give a good advice for her.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
9 Dec 12
ias paul I dislike abortion and would never have aborted a child
but there are two instances when I feel abortion is right mostly to save
a woman's life and if she has been raped by a mentally mangled man as the fetus would and usually is malformed. other than =that have the baby and if necessary
give it up for adoption as there are so many women who would love to adopt a
baby.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
10 Dec 12
You got some point there dude. We all have different perspective about life and it is good to know your side about it.
@prashu228 (37524)
• India
9 Dec 12
so sad. Abortion is not at all acceptable. She have many ways to not to get pregnant. she would have used the facilities.If she really wouldn't want the baby.
Life is very precious.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
Indeed it is and taking life of someone that easy is really a great sin. I hope she will learn how to respect life of all kind.
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@Shavkat (140097)
• Philippines
11 Dec 12
It is a very sensitive issue, taking away the life of an unborn child is a big sin based on religion doctrines. But, it is possible for some country to administer such, if the mother is in danger or the infant is not in capable to live even if it was delivered.
@Angelpink (4034)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
Your friend have a conscience just that she didn't listen to her inner conscience .
Maybe she got no heart for the baby , she only thinks of herself , very selfish indeed ! To abort is to kill and it is a sin in God's eyes and punishable by the law. She should have been responsible for the consequences of her actions. Your friend will be Karma. Hope you can talk to her again and guide her and remind her of the moral and spiritual teachings. She got a lost soul. She needs immediate counselling.
@alias_paul (134)
• Philippines
9 Dec 12
Your right about that. She didn't listen to her conscience. She will the impact of her action when the time comes maybe double or triple maybe. I'll try to talk to her when we meet this coming Saturday.
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@michie198 (32)
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10 Dec 12
I do not agree with abortion with no exceptions as I am adopted and living great. If I was aborted instead of given a chance to at least live I would not be here now. I do not think your friend is without conscience though. People make mistakes no matter what the sin is.
Some people do not want to raise a child, some people are worried about having no money while others have no father for the baby. Either way it is wrong in my eyes but I think the best thing to do is be there to support her. Help her avoid poor choices that lead to such drastic measures in the future.