Good Manners dead at 70?

hi janey I think she is like a lot here, she does not want to take the tinme to let him in as he is a little slow manuevring his wheelchair whil I look at him ant see aq bright young man trapped in a twisted body by Multiple Sclerosis and also there but for the grace of God go I. I found him to be a charming person with a sense of humor. Handicapped people do not embarrass me or make me shy away. they are fellow human beings too.

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Very well said..and I know smiling may be a bit difficult for him but I bet his grin is a LOT wider with good people like you around treating him like a normal, human being.

hi namiya I agree good manners should last us a life time. I shoul really have hit the open button to let poor Ben into the elevator but it all happened too fast and she made it evident she d id not want to let Ben ride withus which to me is just bad manners and stupid. he hurts nobody and is so grateful to us who let him ride with us. He has a great sense of humor for someone so severely handicapped. I f eel he is a charming companion to ride in the elevator with me.

hi namiya yes as they have more time to think and watch and feel too and its so mean'to belittle a person just because they have some handicap.so awful as we all are human beings here.

it's just a pity that some had to be inconsiderate just for their own convenience. And sometimes handicapped persons are more perceptive than normal ones.

She's not the pushy broad you mentioned from before? I'm so happy that Ben's got a great friend in you, and that he's still smiling!

hi I worked as a nurses aide for m any years and have seen it all. I fou nd that Ben is really f unny and sweet and very sensitive too. I apologized to him and he toldt me"She does not like anyone who is handicapped in any way. I am okay" He is severly handicapped and sill has a smile on his face and jokes with'me when we share an elevator ride. She is one of those people whom yu cannot tell anything to as she feels she knows it all.

no Josephine is an older person here when I first came and a know it all who loves to go around and tell various people just wha t she thinks they should do. Yes I like Ben and never turn him dowh if he wants to share the elevator wih me. He is funny and kind and interestimg to t alk t oo

yep, she probably has always had a mean and rude streak in her. people like that miss out on so much and don't realize it. it will be their karma. your mama was so right and i drilled my girls with that same thinking. even the one that was always in trouble was and is a nice person. in her teens she wasnt so nice to me but to everyone else she was a sweetheart. you are a good frien to have,Hatley.

thank you Sid I try to be a good friend to others so they will be to me too lol.

hi sid and I think you are right as I was taught manners from the time I couild talk til I left home. My mom always said good manners will get you in where' you want to go faster than being brilliant. I think she has probably always been mostly for Josephine . She missed something as Ben is a good companion on a short elevator ride. In that misshapen body is a young man with a ripe sense of humor.

I also feel bad for him but he said "Oh thats alright. a lot of people do not'like to ride with me. hate my looks I guess.": I told him I was sorry and he just laughed. I know I would not have been so able to be cheerful each day if I were in his shoes.., because I use a walker and have a heavy brace on my leg some really not not like to ride with me and I f eel okay I do not need you anyway as others here do like me., the three Vietnamese girls look down their noses at e elderly women with white hair. so what they will be old some day oo.

he he pointless questions I would love to be around to see that wow haha. they were going to haveto share the elevator with me after dinner bvut someone called the three of them and sa id the doctor is here so I rode up along without anone to look at me like I was an old freak.felt really good too.

. Yep! One thing's for sure. If those girls live long enough they will get old. They will get their comeuppance in time. Wouldn't you live to be around when that happens.

Hi ElicBxn Yes I can think of her as a bratty bully myself as she does do some bu lying here at times and most of us just ignore her. She really missed something in not sharing a ride with ben as hes more than just a poor victim of MS he is funny and cheerful and happy in spite of it all. I never regretted sharing a ride with him.

I agree! She takes away any doubt that she didn't mean to hurt him.

Hi barbara nobody talks to Joesphine as she starts tallking when you do and ou talks you.She just sees Ben as a pathetic MS vitime with a misshapen body not a real live funny young man who is cheerful and also sensitive too and he told me"not everyone will ride with me." that made me feel sad.

hi zandi I do thik shes always been one for Joesphine and not for many other p eople. she bosses people around and they just smile and ignore her. She only sees Ben as a misshapen victim of MS. He is funny and bright and cheerul for someone who is severely affected by M.S. I have always enjoyed sharing an elevator with him and he has told me a lot of people"do n ot want to ride with me" which breaks my heart.

bellis hi I tried t o hit the open door button and she slapped my hand away. I got out and waited for Ben to come up and apologize to him, He laughed "its okay I would never ride with her as shes a biatch." I was shocked bu t he is right she really is not a nice person either.

hi celticeasle she had a homeless woman who came to "gold crest as here roommate and she complained all the time about Ceila but when the police c ame after being called by the administrator for celia Joesphine could not tell them any thing about her roommate rather she did not dare and oh she did not know where she went and did not care where she went.Now the mystery still remains that Celia signed out to go shopping an dfor a walk and never returned. So nobody knows if she was hurt if she left because she wanted to, it does not seem likely as she left all her clothes in Josephine's room. but Josephine could not tell them any thing or probably did not want too.

hi Celticeagle she has been told before but she keeps on talking when you try to talk to her. She just sees Ben as a pathetic person with ms in a wheelchair.' You cannot tell her any thing as she thinks she knows it all;. but I did glare'at her and said "we left Ben o utP. She ju st said "we do not need him., hes jus a bother"

Yes, we do need Ben!! How rude a person is she? Who we don't need is HER. Ugh! I really don't have much patience with such people.

hi macdingolinger I just get so appalled at people w ho just see a person who is misshapen and a victim of MS as just pathetic and never see the real person inside that body.Ben is a sweet funny,bright and cheerful young man trapped in a misshapen body. I doubt I would be that cheerful if it were me. I enjoy talking to him and I did apologize to him. He surprised me."thats okay as I would never 'ride with Josephine as she is not a nice person."He is sensitive and has told me some will not ride with him.I think thats a shame, I really do.

hi john yes indeed she would probably have driven Napoleon arou nd the bend with her bulling and bossing peple around.Most of us ignore her.She is one of those people who think she's the smartest person here and we should all heed her bidding. I ignore herl She doesnt know that Ben is full of good humor and cheerfulness as all she sees is his t wisted legs, his wheelchair and his garbled speech. i can understand him and he has shared jokes with me. He is sensitive and always tells me I am going to ride with you , okay? He told me a lot of people do not like to ride with me. shame on them, they only see his body not the person inside.

hi you too Maria do not work too hard. She must have always been like that and does not know that Ben has a wicked sense of humor and is alwa s thanking yu for sharing the elevator with him. A ot of people here'do not like to ride with him as he is misshapen and in a wheelchair. They see'only the body and not the nice person inside of him.

Hi GardenGerty Yes I am thinking she was always like this and she jabbed the 2 floor button twice while I was saying "YOU shut the door in Ben's face" Her only comment"we do not need the likes of him, hes a bother.," I felt like hitting her. He never bothers people as he asks if he can ride with us and I have alway said yes as he is funny and interesting to talk to. I responded to the person'inside of him not to his misshapen body. I apologized to him and he told me he would never ride with Josephine as she's just not a nice person.

Some people can just be rude, regardless of age, educational attainment, and the whatnot. Fortunately there are those like you to keep the balance in this world.

hi choybel I did I yelled at her"what are you doing? YOu shut the door in Ben's face" She only replies "we don't need him he is just a bother."After I got off I waited for him to come up and apologized to him. He told mne"Oh thats okay as I would not ever ride with her anyway. she is not a nice lady." I laughed with him and we talked for a few minutes.

1hi choybel yes it hurt me and I did apolgize to ben as she shut the door in his face afte i sai okay lets ride together

Oh that is scary, I hope Celia wasn't hurt and that maybe she decided to go back to where she stayed before. And yes it would make a good novel...

hi carm I hpe so too as we have never heard anything so I guess its an open case. I just hope nobdoy killed as Santa Ana is no plave for white people as the illegal alierns have t aken it over now sith vicious youth gangs doing drive by killings and they kill anything that seems to cross their path.yuck.

hi carm my tablemate Steve is now in the hospital b ut I was thinkinbg abou t manners when he once asked me if I thanked people who waited on me in cafeds and restaraunts I told him yes and he said:why do that as'yu are paying them to wait on you." I thought of my 'God wahts with him.I said'"I alwasy thank p eople who do things ofr me as its just good manners".I think its because I know how tiring waiteing table can be and they c an all stand to get a few thank yous I am sure. Good m anner often paves the wa y when you need it paved too.I find that when I treat all the care takers with good manners tehy will help me any time I have a problem. You know Josephine had a roommate named /Celia who had been on the streets and came to :Gold C rest to live. Now c elis was a bit odd having b een homeless and on the streets but she was a king womanl Howerver Joesphine b,it.ched all the time about her as a roommate then one day c elia signed out to go for a walk and shop at target. And she never returned yet all her belonigns were therel the p olice interviewed Joesphine as sh had lived with celia and she just told them nothing which was really silly as they were trying to figure where she may have gone. And she is s till missing and never was found not one trace of her.The police questioned Josephine several times as they thought it odd that she did not know anything about her roommate.But they gave up and did not return I do not think sh involved with her disappearance but it was just that Josephine is centered on one person only, herself.oh that would make a grea t novel would i not.worf.

Yes Trisha I think we should all use good manners to the day we die. She m ust have always been like that. I apologized to Ben and I was amused as he said "thats okay as I would not ever ride with Josephine anyway.She's not a nice person at all." I ha e to agree as I said when she shoved in "You shut the door in ?en's face."{ She just said"We do not need the likes of him, he's such a bother." So she was really rude and my protest was a as usual overlooked. She goes around telling various people what to do and most just ignore her.

hi jenny I agree and I yelled at here" what are you doing,yuo shut the door in Ben;'s face. there w as room for him." She only replied" we do not need the likesof him.Hes just a bother. by then we were opine and I got oyt. I w aited for Ben to come back up then apologized to him for Josesphine and he surprised me. " Thats okay as I would never ride with Josephine as she just not a good lady" and he laughed. I felt bad fo rhim as he is a nice young m an in a misshapen body thrrough no fault of his own. He is funny and cheerful so whats notto like.

I hope she does as she has caused so many here to dislike her a lot for sure.

Good thing that Ben is a good man. And for that Josephine, well, she'll get her share of "THOSE" days!

hi bjc yes indeed the longer I am here the more I see some really odd people Josephine is sort of a bully in that she comes around telling various people what she thinks they should do. This does not always go well with some of the men. One got mad and yelled at her"Mind your own f business you biatch." She is un quenchable though and goes right back to the person. But he got up and she ran back to her table. She weighs maybe ninety pounds and he weighs two seventy I apologized to Ben and he said:"I would never ride with Josephine as she's just not a nice person.",