broke a rule and feel no guilt?
@Hatley (163776)
Garden Grove, California
December 29, 2012 2:29pm CST
I can understand more when people a re new her e and either have read the mylot info but not remembered all the rules or just have not read it and made milestone discussions.But when someone admits to knowing he of she is breaking that milestone rule why do they do it knowing people love to congratulate others for their achievements?
oKay so they do not lose a lot of money but still they cause new people to respond and lose and lose and lose as others also make milestone discussions about any milestone thinking he did it so guess it okay.It is not okay.sure the money lost is not much but
it can be enough to keep you from making your payoff.
Your take fellow mylotters, is it not wise to refrain from
making these milestone discussions and instead private message your
]friends and brag about it that way?
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@echoforever (5180)
• United States
29 Dec 12
Hatley,
I don't agree with this type of behavior because as you said it can just cause some loss of earnings for us. If you're sure that something will be deleted it shouldn't be posted. Its going to be hard enough for new members who want to be sucessful here without these mess ups just because someone wants to be "congratulated" or try to beat the myLot system because they think it won't be deleted. All members who break the rules are subject to deletions, period.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 12
hi echoforever thats it just think for a moment before making a discussion is this against the rules, and if you know it is d o
not do it. Stop putting up stuff that will grab newcomers attention and then t hey will respond and get all their responses deleted.We all need to take responsibility for our own actions
on mylot.Why cause others to lose earnings if we know the
discussion we would like to make is against a my lot rule?
@echoforever (5180)
• United States
29 Dec 12
Yes I agree. At times I've made a discussion that I didn't know broke the rules and I felt bad for it. But I do see people who do this knowingly and it is a hinderance to the community.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 12
hi echoforever Yes I have to and it was because i lost my temper. I was insulted and I just lost my cool completely and I lost my
discussion for flaming now I d o know better and just report the insult instead.But I never wou,d deliberately break a r ule and ca use nyself and the responders to lose money because I was s elfish.,
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
29 Dec 12
I couldn't agree more!
I saew the topic that caused you to start this one and once again I was appalled by the user just not caring about the fact that it was a blatant violation. I saw another one the other day in one of the money interests and the first line of the topic even stated "I know this will be deleted but..." and then went on to promote a site
We all know of one user who starts topics to help others or a rant about a specific problem but he puts a 'disclaimer' at the bottom giving us the choice of responding or not. Those who just post regardless of whether they are wasting the time of others or not are just so irritating and have no sense of community about them whatsoever
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
29 Dec 12
Mike I agree with you that we should know the rules but that does not give others the right to put us, especially the newer users, to the test by posting violations and not caring whether they will go or not.
Many people, unlike others, are here for the earnings and when they lose a post they are saddened for their loss.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 12
mike I know what you a re saying and of course agree with you
but still to just go ahead knowing he broke the rules and almost
brag about does not seem very kind, you and Diana and I know there are newcomers mostly here for making money who would want to congratulate anyone and have yes have not read the rules.
I know I will not deliberately post a discussion I know
is against the rules. I am just saying somehow it does not seem right to me.
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@bjc66bjc (6730)
• United States
29 Dec 12
Mike I totally agree with you...and you would think a newcomer
would be brand new to the rules and regulations...Why take a
chance because someone else does something irresponsible...We
do have to take resposible for OUR own actions.
Now at the same time I just don't think anyone who knows the
rules and regulations should do something like make a post that
against rules..I just can't imagine what the gratification would
be doing that either...
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@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
2 Jan 13
Personally like you said here, I can understand if you are new, but why start a discussion you know is wrong and will be removed? Yeah, those of us who have been here forever will usually not respond back in discussions we know will be removed. But the thing is when it is a new person it discourages them to sometimes where they end up leaving never giving this site a chance.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Jan 13
hi tina Yes if you are new you might not have read thes guidlines or the faqs all through but when older ones who have been here a long time and make discussions knowing they will probably be deleted thats just not fair to newcomers as they will be taken in and lose earnings and yes just leave Mylot without having given it a fair shot.
@julyteen (13252)
• Davao, Philippines
2 Jan 13
Last new year only I responded several discussions which resulted to loss of my earnings and post. Just today I check my notification and I have a total of 4 emails informing me that my respond was deleted. The problem there, those poster are not newbies in myLot.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Jan 13
Hi julyteen I also noticed that and you would think that they would know better and would have read the guidelines and the FAQ's too. They have no excuse as they have had time to have learned those dos and do nots of making discussions.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Jan 13
yhes dawn he surely does but hes been here longer thab I have too. lol
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
1 Jan 13
Lol. Aunt Hatley happy new year. We're you talking about me. Though I don't really intending to break the rules, sometimes I really like to express my thoughts although I have some thoughts that this certain discussion will be deleted. I am not proud as in proud but I like to express
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Jan 13
hi Mavic no not at all, not taking about you.happy New Year too.
WE all should read the guidelines over a few times to really understand the dos and do nots of making discussions that
will not be deleted.I also like to express mythoughts but do try to do it within the rules so I do not lose my posts.
@clrumfelt (5490)
• United States
31 Dec 12
I agree it if frustrating to post a long reply to someone else's discussion only to have it deleted by MyLot admin. I guess the best way to avoid that is to read and become more familiar with the guidelines ourselves so we know not to spend our time and efforts on discussions that may be deleted,and then we can help educate others too and hopefully help them avoid creating those kinds of traps for other MyLotters, like you're doing here. Thanks.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 12
hi circumfelt yes it really gets to a person but if we all would
really read the info in the guidelines and FAQ' we would make
a lot fewer errors and save a lot more of our earnings by not having discussion that get deleted.. hope others will realize this too.
@celticeagle (167071)
• Boise, Idaho
30 Dec 12
What is this 'milestone' stuff all about? Never heard that to discribe anything on here before. Milestone discussions? What?
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@celticeagle (167071)
• Boise, Idaho
30 Dec 12
Yes, and we aren't supposed to make them into discussions. I recall that.
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@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
29 Dec 12
Thank you for bringing this up Hatley, for it has been an irritation to me for some time.
I just didn't know how to say it in such a way as to be inoffensive.
Posting topics that are against the rules is an annoyance , but no one should be doing it, warnings and disclaimers notwithstanding.
It is a sort of do as I say not as I do scenario. Don't let me catch you smoking son, *puff puff*
It makes it seem like the lot is an old boys club, where popularity , not policy , dictates acceptability
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
29 Dec 12
sulynsi no-one is above the rules here but that is what you are inmplying
Whoever posts a topic, a response or a comment that is a violation will later see it removed no matter how 'popular' or how 'veteran' they are here.
@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
29 Dec 12
I beg to differ with you on this one, mike, but popularity most definitely makes a difference here........
If you've got enough followers to take up your cause
my perception may not be shared by all, but I'm certain if I perceive it that way, others do too, I know because I am just not particularly unique or original
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@sulynsi (2671)
• Canada
29 Dec 12
No I am not saying that admin will not delete violating posts-I have seen posts removed by long time users-but they shouldn't have to, don't you agree?
Don't you think admin has a busy enough time trying to keep the lots standards high without having to waste time on posts from people who do know better, but who may push the limits on occasion because they have a loyal following who will put it down to just a bit of fun?
No one is above the rules of mylot, but a little self regulation would demonstrate we all truly respect those rules
@riyauro (6421)
• India
30 Dec 12
hi hats. I agree with you on this. I have suffered losses and deletions of posts and it is really depressing you know..I can't believe people actually brag about it.. goodness have mercy, here also people are doing sick things..they should be banned. Good to you hats..
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 12
hi yes its better not to break r ules but to know thenm first then post knowing what not to do.Perhaps I was a bit harsn on this person b ut I still feel we should learn the rules and then pay attention to them when we post things.
@AkamaruKei (5219)
• Malaysia
30 Dec 12
Hatley i still not understand how milestone discussion look like? I just know example of milestone discussion is birthday discussion. Maybe i'm to late join this discussion but i hope you read it.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
30 Dec 12
A 'milestone' topic is anything that says "I reached a certain point".
It could be your star, number of posts, earnings or your birthday, or a national or religious occasion.
There is never anything of substance to discuss in those topics.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 12
hi AkamaruKei A lot of people get carried away and forget but milesones are events that they have accomplished like coming marriage or graduating c.u.m laud. Most here do have to do with accomplishing some goal in mylot like reaching 500 so they can copy paste.AkamaruKei this is also in the guidelines so go reread it again.
@AkamaruKei (5219)
• Malaysia
30 Dec 12
Thanks for explain that mysdianait. Hatley if we start a discussion about what is happen in our life example like 'my neighbour is not a nice person' is that milestone discussion?
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@StLouisMetroTutoring (678)
• St. Peters, Missouri
29 Dec 12
This is actually an interesting thought. I thought before posting I knew how I felt. But as I was explaining my position that it's really up to each of us to determine our participation, I came to a realization that I hold contradictory beliefs. After almost completing my post, I deleted it all. I don't feel comfortable defending my position. I need to think through this a little more. One great thing about posting - it causes me to frequently evaluate my beliefs.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
29 Dec 12
I not only rethink my ideas before posting but I also am aware that there are many people who have difficulty understanding English. I remember how I felt when I first landed in Italy and the only word I knew was 'pizza'. Bearing that in mind, when I know that I am interacting with someone who has only a basic knowledge, I try and use as simple Emglish as I possibly can to make them understand my point, especially when talking about the rules on here.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 12
hi mike as an A merican so at ease with our idioms it came t o me as a rude shock that a lot of people here would not understand some of our really odd or even silly slang term. An Indian friend had asked me what I was eating while typing and I had said unthinkingly "Oh a hot dog": and he was shocked,"I thought you a nice lady; please d o not eat do meat." Oh my I quickly responded " Oh
no its not dog meat. Its a beef wiener .No I do not eat dog meat.We Americans love our dogs as pets. So i guess I am still
a nice lady." He responded" oh thank 'God yes you still a nice lady.I am so glad." Now I think before posting slang terms and idioms so as not to be misunderstood.
@sunshinesophie (794)
• China
30 Dec 12
I felt upset when I was a newcomer two weeks ago,that time I haven't read the FAQ and guidelines yet and I do replied some posts about the congratulation or discussion about the earning performance,at last my comments are all removed and it makes me to lose.But anyway,now I know well about it,when I see it next time,I would never reply it again.
Hope all of mylotters can read the guidelines carefully and obey the rules here.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 12
hi sunshinesophie wow you are doing well already and by
reading the guidelines and the FAQ's you are way ahead
of the game. Yes it makes mylot so much more f un when
everyone knows the r ules and we all act like a team.
one can really enjoy mylot when we all abide by the
rules and just c ome and have fun together.
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
29 Dec 12
Have fun, don't think about the earnings and follow the Guidelines and you will soon be stuck here like the rest of us
@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
29 Dec 12
Welcome aboard!
The last line of the Guidelines tells us not to post 'milestone' topics. Therefore, when we reach a certain number of posts or a certain star rating or a certain amount in our earnings, we should not post in the discussion area but use our PMs if we want to inform people.
Earlier a not so new user posted such a topic and, when informed that it would be removed, they commented that they knew it would be
IOt is unfair to others to knowingly start a topic that will be removed because when the deletion takes place, everyone who participated will olose their earnings.
It is the responsability of everyone, before starting a new topic for discussion, to be certain that others will not waste their time.
That's about it in a (long) nutshell.
@Jennlee3 (292)
• United Kingdom
29 Dec 12
Wow. Thank you very much mysdianait. That makes a lot of sense. I feel a bit sheepish not catching on in the beginning but I understand fully now. I'm sure I'll get the hang of this whole thing soon. Thanks for taking the time to explain! And wow, yeah. That's pretty crummy of that user! -__-
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@scorpiobabes (7225)
• United States
30 Dec 12
Now that I've learned the hard way, I won't ever consider making that type of discussion. But for someone who KNOWS the rules and starts a discussion like that, you then have to wonder how many other discussions they've started might end up being deleted? It's frustrating when we lose money by someone violating the rules; it's easier to forgive when it's accidental, but when on purpose, my blood begins to boil.
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@jillhill (37354)
• United States
29 Dec 12
I think you are right...private message someone so they don't lose out on earnings....why break a rule? I do see discussions that are rule breaking and I avoid them...like giving recipies....that is a no no....just let your friends know privately!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 12
hi jillhill yes pm people but do not break the rule deliberately just for bragging about something.think about
thowe who are new here, its not fair is my opinion.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 12
hi echoforever its just a nier way of doing it as we all like to bragg a bit about great happenings as thats hum an nature so sheare via pmessages.
@echoforever (5180)
• United States
29 Dec 12
I would agree that a PM to a few friends would essentially do the same thing without the possibility of getting deletions and earnings reduced.
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@bunnybon7 (50973)
• Holiday, Florida
29 Dec 12
great idea. thats how we should do it when we want to tell people things that we know cant be posted. they will learn once they are here for a while. thats how we usually learn best. get knocked down and learn a lesson
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 12
hi echoforever that was what irritatied me actually thinking it w as funny to post something he knew was going to be deleted. one thing if he does too many of those he might just be banned fromn myhlot too.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
29 Dec 12
yes thats sure one w ay to learn for sure. I just did not like the way the person almost bragged abut bragging the milestone violation
but we all see things differently.
@echoforever (5180)
• United States
29 Dec 12
Some members are not so curteous and also still post these types of topics when they know it is against the rules though.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
29 Dec 12
I unknowingly broke a rule recently and felt awful about it. Really awful and desperately sad to those who responded to me before the discussion was deleted. This was my first deletion since I joined Mylot four years ago. I need to re read the rules I expect. To do it deliberately is very unkind
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
31 Dec 12
hi AkamaruKei I finally did realize that and I jhust do not
respond to her if she does respond to me. I like to get along
with every one and just have fun here. thanks.
@AkamaruKei (5219)
• Malaysia
30 Dec 12
Hatley i think you should not friend with her again because she is rude person.
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@AkamaruKei (5219)
• Malaysia
2 Feb 13
Hatley i also not like someone here but i still comment in their responses. Sometime they rude and i not like them but i still comment when they give responses to my discussion.
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@JohnRok1 (2051)
•
29 Dec 12
We must remember also that computer use isn't always 100% cost free. There's the electricity we use; there's the wear and tear on the equipment; and not everybody pays the same for using the internet regardless of use. People who reply to deleted posts may not just lose their payment from mylot; they may also have forked out on other expenses.
Not everyone on mylot is a genius. People may not spot when somebody else's discussion is against guidelines.
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@mysdianait (66009)
• Italy
29 Dec 12
The point is that those who know that their topic is a violation should NOT post them!
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Dec 12
hi John yes you also gave some valid reasons too so we are all in agreement then. hugs from hatley Happy New Year John and do come up with more jokes once in awhile they always make me so
happy.
@Pegasus72 (1898)
•
28 Jan 13
Every day is a milestone so what are you suppose to write about? I am just glad to be able to comment on other posts.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Feb 13
hi pegasus Yes in a wayt it is b ut they meant things like how many points we have,birthdays, anniversaries that kind of stuff. i also am glad to comment and respond and comment baqck on the responses I get on my own discussions. I still see people use resond and comment wrong but my lot does use them correctly when it tells y ou to post whatever.
@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
12 Feb 13
hik pegtasus I think I understand what you are saying and I agree that we can word it such that it will not be called a milestone but still get our points across.Like the poll type I just turn it into something more personal and word it differently and its not a poll. I never have had one deleted for poll type. I have had three
deleted one for duplicate two for loisng my temper when someone
really insulted me instead of reporting her like I should have.
@Pegasus72 (1898)
•
4 Feb 13
I know what they meant but as you can see people can change things up they way they want or even just call an anniversary something like my man's and my date, or special day and it is still the same kind of post they just used different wording.
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