In the habit of justifying laziness

just being lazy - justifying laziness
@bounce58 (17387)
Canada
January 21, 2013 5:46pm CST
My son has developed a recently acquired trait of justifying laziness. I would go ask him to do something (like, clean his room, etc.), and then after some time, when I’ve noticed that he didn’t do it, he would go about justifying why he wasn’t able to do it. I would go nuts! Usually not because he didn’t get his room cleaned, but more because he goes about coming up with excuses. Mostly activities that he HAD to do, that he didn’t get to do his chore. This is not a trait that I want him to learn and keep as he grows up. I would like to curb this as early as possible. I’ve seen this trait from people I’ve worked with on the floor, and it usually didn’t end up good for them. They usually end up getting let go. Do you know people who are in the habit of justifying their laziness? Has it really come out well for them? What would you say or do to snap people out of this?
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@ZoeJoy (1392)
• United States
22 Jan 13
How old is he? If he is about 13-14 years, boys tend to go through a laziness at that age - their bodies are going through so many changes, that they just can't seem to cope and thus, appear to be lazy. Have a 'come back' for his excuses. A sense of humor goes a long way - especially with older children and teenagers. Tell him you are going to write a book about all his excuses. I would tell my kids if they didn't do their chores, then neither was I. Which meant, that I was no longer going to cook dinner. So, if they wanted me to cook dinner for them, then they needed to uphold their end of the responsibilities in our family home. Usually, that worked because they didn't want to have to make their own dinner. So, give him reasonable consequences if he doesn't complete his chores. For example, that you are not going to drive him to his friend's house until he cleans his room. Or he can't watch TV until his chores are done. That way, you are not just nagging him, he just has to do his chores to gain back his privileges.
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
22 Jan 13
My son is turning 13 this year. So, I hope that like you said/wrote, this is just a phase. Yes, I do tell him of the consequences when I catch him doing or nor doing his chores (like me not doing my chores), but I haven't done it with humor. Thanks for the tip! I think I'd try that. I think it will be good for my own stress levels as well.
• China
22 Jan 13
Zoezoy always makes smart and practical suggestions;) Your son is in his transitional period, and might be a little resilient, that's normal. I used to be like that, too. But that should really be curbed so that he can form a good habit. Try to be friends with him, listen to him and let him open his heart to you on everything. When he likes you (that's different from love, you'll understand) he would like to follow your rules. Otherwise he would be resilient and hard to manage.
• China
22 Jan 13
P.S. I often justify my own laziness even when I'm 24:( I've got some slight procrastination, maybe. I only fulfill tasks when the deadline is coming. I'm trying so hard to change that habit. So I relly hope your son could have a good habit! Never put off things when you can do it now.
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
25 Feb 13
I always give young people some latitude because they are growing up and will go through stages of development. I've heard laziness is a product of lack of goals. Depression can effect peoples goals as they lack motivation. There needs to be some kind of reward for doing anything. Neatness can be very productive to being creative and chicks love a guy that is neat.
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
25 Feb 13
...laziness is a product of lack of goals. This is a great point Bluedoll! I've actually started giving him little goals that keeps him busy and motivated. Although I still have to remind him from time to time, I do see a little bit of change. Thanks.
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
26 Feb 13
I know it helps us all and good experience something to learn. It has to be his goal though I think? I heard about this dad (many years ago) that build a classic car, chevy corvette I think, with his son and people told him that was just too much money for a hobby. His guidelines were no drinking no acting crazy. Well as it turned out when the son got married he sold the restored car to buy a house. I think the father was a very smart man to invest his money and time in that way. Caring and understanding though is what will have the biggest effect on young people I think. - good luck with all your hard work
@GardenGerty (160663)
• United States
22 Jan 13
You do not say how old your son is. My son is not lazy, but was never great at cleaning his room. I am lousy at organizing, although I like the effect of cleanness.He probably got it from me. I would say with your son, do not argue, ask or remind him one time. If he does not do it, there should be a consequence. Also, check to see if your standards are higher than his. If the whole job seems overwhelming to him, which it might, break the task down into smaller, more specific parts. It seems that we are not taught to be able to deal with a big task anymore but we get daunted. Have some minimums, like spread his bed when he gets out of it. Wash his sheets and re make his bed on a certain day of the week. Take his trash out on a certain day of the week. Put all clothes away when they are clean, etc. Maybe put it in writing for him. Make sure that when he does accomplish the desired task there is some kind of reward, such as recognizing his efforts. Not monetary or treats. I work with older adult mentally handicapped people. One is very neat and tidy, the other is a slob. With Mr. Slob there are certain battles that are worth fighting. Whatever shift I work he knows that there are certain things I will ask him to do: pick up dirty laundry and wet towels, bring any dishes out of his room, take out his trash. I have him do this a little at a time all morning. I use the approach of "I will be glad to do this as soon as you do such and such. . . " I will be glad to fix your breakfast, while I do that, why don't you get your drink glass out of your room." "It is too early to pass your meds, but by the time you put your laundry in the wash we can do it", etc.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
22 Jan 13
Yes GG, my standards are a bit higher than most. And my fault is I sometimes expect the same with my kids. He's just turning 13 this year. And yes, I think I would try your suggestion of breaking down his tasks in smaller parts. And maybe when he could accomplish his small task, would only be the time that I add more. Great tip! Thanks.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
28 Jan 13
Yes, these are the guys that become poor performers at work and become rotten husbands. They can always find time to have fun and do what they want to do. I'm pleased to see that you are at least trying to teach him responsibility
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
28 Jan 13
That's what I'm afraid off. I'm not against him having fun, I just want him to learn a little bit of responsibility. And maybe not to make up excuses when he's been told about it. Still tryin'... Thanks.
@katsmeow1213 (28716)
• United States
22 Jan 13
Perhaps he needs a lesson in time management? I try to get my kids to do their chores and homework as soon as they get home from school.. then the rest of the night can be whatever they want to do. They don't actually follow this though and usually get goofing around long before homework and chores are done. For this reason I have banned electronics on weekdays so that they might actually get things done, but they still don't. I think deep down it's just a kid thing. They know when it's important to do something, and when it's not.
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
22 Jan 13
I've also resorted to banning their electronics on weekdays and up to 12 noon on Sundays. As much as I want them to learn the lesson of not being lazy (or not to justify laziness), I think that you're right though. That it could just be a 'kid thing'. And I have to remind myself that all the time so that I don't get too-too hard on them. Thanks kat!
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
22 Jan 13
if this is a habit then it is bad and could be brought when he gets older and have serious tasks to do. OK, who has command to the boy you or your spouse? The one who has command or the person who this boy is more afraid of, then this person must see to it that the task is done. Like ok, clean your room now.. then watch him clean his room never to go and leave him out of sight. Then setting the day every saturday we will clean the room or every other saturdays, or once a month. Then again watch him and really keep eye on him while he does his job. After a few times, of watching, guarding style let him do the job with minimal supervision but with time allowance, In an hour I want to see your room clean.. then leave.. then be back after 15 minutes.. do this until he has beaten the time allowance. Then, instruct him to clean without supervision, but after an hour check if he did. Eventually the habit will change to positive because it will be already a habit for him to clean the room.. Hmmm.. I think I should follow my own suggestion.. my room is messy too hahahaha
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@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
22 Jan 13
Hi Mavic123456! This sounds like a good advice coming from someone who also needs the advice! But you're right. Sometimes, all it takes is someone to follow through on instructions to make sure that tasks are done. Thanks.
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
23 Jan 13
hahaha yes, shhhhhhhhh.... this is a secret... but try it.. patience is very much needed though and time
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
23 Feb 13
Over the years, I have known many people to always try and justify their laziness. Many of them are people that I work with. I think sometimes it just gets to the point where they just get so used to making us excuses like this, and justifying the laziness that it continues to get worse until they realize their is truly more life than this. But when it comes to your son, this is not good, and you need to find ways to curb this and help show him that doing housework, etc. is a Good thing, and cleaning his room, etc. is something he will be doing the rest of his life, so unless he likes a messy house he needs to learn to be more responsible and help clean up.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
25 Feb 13
Yes, I really feel that I have to 'curb' this thing for my son. For myself, I can't think straight or do my job when I see that everything around me is a mess. That's why I try to teach my son to start with his room. I keep telling him that he'd feel a little better if his room is tidy. And that this would translate to a way of life when he grows up. Thanks KH!
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
14 Feb 13
I am sure it's just a phase he is going through, you are only trying to instal some disclipline in him and help him grow up NOT to be lazy, but to him he will see it as nagging. You didn't mention how old he is, am I right to assume he's a teenager? The rebellion stage, where everything you say turns into a argument. It does need to be nipped in the bud as soon as possible, if he applies this to his studies then he is not going to get the necessary qualifications for when he leaves school and it's a hard world out there once you step out of school, I know that, you know that but trying to teach your children that is a different story, to them your are lecturing them.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
18 Feb 13
Hey wolfie34! My son is just turning 13 this year. And yes, I think that although I'm just trying to teach him to be more responsible, he sees it as 'nagging'. And yes, most of the time it turns into an argument. Hopefully, there's still time to change him. Thanks.
• United States
7 Feb 13
I'll hit him in the pocketbook. I mean when I told him to clean his room and he didn't do it, there would be a deduction in his allowance! When he asked why I'd tell him that he didn't do his chores. Less work, less money. I agree if you are lazy at work, you are the first to be let go.
• United States
11 Feb 13
You are welcome. As a kid I had to put things back when I was finished with them, especially in my room. and I had to go to school. for both I got a good allowance.I'm glad I could help.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
10 Feb 13
Unfortunately, my so doesn't do allowance just yet. Next year when he gets to middle school, he'd be given an allowance. I'm sure we'll revisit this conversation, and the 'deduction' to his allowance if he makes excuses of not cleaning his room. Thanks sarah!
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• United States
21 Jan 13
Does he ever ask you to do anything for him? Like, I need this special shirt washed today or can I have this or that for dinner? Maybe you should do a little reverse psychology and give him some excuses why you couldn't do it. Maybe it would sink in a little? I dunno, haha, there are sooooooo many kids like this today and they are usually the young one's that just get a job and decide they really don't want to do anything extra at all. They can see a piece of garbage on the floor at work and will walk right past it instead of picking it up and throwing it out....just an example. I'm sure you know what I mean.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
22 Jan 13
I know what you mean. And one of my fears is that my kids grow up like this. That they end up not being able to hold on to a job because they come up with lots of excuses to cover up any form of laziness. I've seen people do this. For my son, this is just a recent trait. So, there is still hope that I can nip this in the bud. Thanks for the response.
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
22 Jan 13
This really depends on his age. Is this the son that is five or six years old? If so, then this task can be a bit overwhelming for him and he may not no how to begin or what to do. I agree that he has to do it. I would begin by setting the clock to ping in five minutes and then tell him that you will assist him to pick up and tidy his room.Make a game of it and help him feel a sense of accomplishment when the phone/alarm rings. Let him see what can be accomplished in a small amount of time. Gradually, you can stop assisting but still set the clock. If the tasks are not finished then give him a few more minutes to complete the task. Do not expect perfection as perhaps your standards are higher because you are an adult and not a child? Praise is also essential. Then you can lead to the concept if toys are put away when he has finished playing with them, then there is less to put away. A routine can be established. I get the twins to tidy away their toys before supper. Then they bathe and we settle for our usual storytime, prays, and then special hugs to go to sleep. And yes, I often still join them or direct them to tidy up but as stated, this is done at a specific time each day. I have a strict routine as my GS is sightly OCD and this routine makes him feel secure - especially as their Mother has yet to return to them. Sorry, if I appear to be preachng but this worked for me in the past and works with the grand twins. Blessings
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
22 Jan 13
This is actually for the 12 year old, and not the 6 year old. But yes, I would try this with the younger one. He is a bit competitive and he always try to do what his big brother is doing. Or even better. So, I would make a game of it. For all of the things that I would like him to be doing. Thanks cynthi! Preaching from you is most welcome!
@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
22 Jan 13
Oh, for a 12 year old then privileges such as using laptop should be curtailed until work is completed. Stress that it is 'our' home and we show respect for it and each other by keeping it tidy.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
22 Jan 13
...it is 'our' home and we show respect for it and each other by keeping it tidy. Strangely enough, I've been saying this exact things recently! Thanks.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
24 Jan 13
Honestly, I have to say that I am glad to hear that I am not the only person that has to deal with these kinds of problems with my children. Both my daughter and my son also have this same habit and it isn't something that I like at all. The one that I hear the most is that they will say that they can't get their chores done because of the fact that they have too much homework to do. This being after I've already asked them about homework and they will tell me that they didn't have any. The lying to get out of doing chores is something that drives me up the wall as well.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
28 Jan 13
...they can't get their chores done because of the fact that they have too much homework to do. Haha! I've heard this too often from my son. And when I do ask him, when he's in the middle of watching TV or playing a game, he'll also say he has no homework, or he's already done them.
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
23 Feb 13
I raised up my child not accustomed to laziness. I told her to at first tidy up her bed when she wakes up, before doing anything else. And if she didn't, i would make the bed for her, but she would really see me so angry and be talking endless. Thus, she makes it a point to avoid that, so she would first thing when she wakes up , make her bed tidy. On other chores that she would justify, ans as always she would say she would study, i just let it go, because i can see that she really is studying well and her grades and scholarships proved it.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
25 Feb 13
That's one of the reasons that my kid always gives. That he needs to study, or that he has some homework to do. Although I'm inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt, I sometimes catch him just playing. It really needs to be cut in the bud. Thanks simplyd!
@SIMPLYD (90722)
• Philippines
26 Feb 13
Well, if that happens to my kid, i would surely reprimand her for lying. But that didn't happen because she was really a studious girl. So, it's okay with me.
• India
22 Jan 13
hi friend, your son is just 13 now, it seems, he loves you more than his dad. Nothing to think seriously on his laziness. Its just his mood, which will change in few hours. He must be thinking of some pc games or facebook comments or novel etc. Itsa common with the kids of this age. So, dont expect that your son will obey all your commands, the way you expect. As far as his future life is concerned, you will be have to be naturally careful. At this stage you should see at least he should not show his laziness in doing homework, i mean study related things. Moreover i guess, by this time, he might have started cleaning his room. Give some space for his own mood too. An there is a saying in my mother tongue ... i.e. lazy man knows everything .. this means a lazy person knows all the reason for not doing ... lol ... but in your son's case, just give him a kiss and tell again, he will definitely do ... i cant tell more... in fact one of my hobby is sleeping.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
28 Jan 13
Hello binaybbsr1. Your saying is definitely spot on. It seems like the more he stays away from doing his chores, the more he knows of every excuse not to do it. Hopefully, I could still change this habit. Thanks for the response.
@CarlHalling (3617)
• United Kingdom
22 Jan 13
An ordered room... - Yes, it's best to have everything so you know where to find it if you need it.
I'd say laziness is a very human tendency; the tendency to want to enjoy a life of ease. Many people don't enjoy working. Young people love to have a great time; I know I did. And I was often in trouble when I was young for laziness. But in the end, laziness can lead to disaster: for example if we don't work hard, we might enjoy a reduced status in life, which can be painful and humiliating. So in time, many of us learn to be less lazy; I'd say, because we want to do well; we want to achieve; we want to be admired by others. My room used to be untidy when I was much younger; but these days, my room is incredibly ordered, because if it wasn't, I'd probably be constantly losing stuff, which would send me into transports of rage. I am fiercely impatient with myself, and do not tolerate losing thing, or messing up in any way: I am passionately driven to achieve things. I need to have a place for everything. Yes, I was lazy as a youth; my grades were terribly poor; I left formal education at just 16 with few exams. I had to work hard to recover. Of course having an untidy room does not mean that a person is going to be lazy in other areas. But I'd say it can be good...psychologically...for a person to be tidy. How can you study in an untidy room? For example. Maybe it could be said that having an ordered room...is good for having an ordered mind. And with an ordered mind, well a person is better in a position to do well than if the mind is disordered. This may be true.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
23 Jan 13
Like you said/wrote, you used to have an untidy room when you were young. And some time in the past you've learned to be tidy and have everything in order because it helps (even) psychologically. But you must had somebody in your life that reminded you to clean up your room, and not be lazy. I'm hoping that I could be that person for my son. Thanks for the response CarlHalling!
@jshekhar (1562)
• India
22 Jan 13
Hello bounce58, Laziness is a terrible habit because its very easy to get into it and extremely difficult to get rid of it. I have been there and I am sure most of us, especially as teenagers have been through that phase. The important thing is to learn your lessons and realize the importance of getting things done well before the deadline. I learnt this when I started working. To get out of this habit, one should try to keep himself engaged in a lot of activities, develop a hobby or something.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
23 Jan 13
Thanks jshekhar! Yes, that important lesson of getting things done need to be learned. I'm hoping that I could keep on making him learn this lesson as I constantly remind him to clean his room. Thanks for the response!
@natliegleb (5175)
• India
22 Jan 13
we get so used to it and certainly feel that laziness is good and breaking sober feel and also not tiring the body makes us more comfortable
• Greece
22 Jan 13
As this is a new phase in his development it may be a short one, especially with you chasing him up about it. It sounds more like he is trying to challenge your authority than that he is just being lazy. It is all part of growing up I believe. Perhaps if you gave him a schedule of jobs that he needed to do then he would have no excuse for not doing them. Asking him to do a job out of the blue when he is busy doing something else may aggravate the situation. A list might give him a more adult attitude to his responsibilites. Do you have any kind of reward system when he does well?
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
23 Jan 13
I have noticed that he's been challenging my authority in other things. Or questioning things that I normally do specially when it affects him. Maybe he is just testing out his boundaries. If he is, I'd make sure that he would understand that he could challenge me, but when it comes to cleaning up his room, there wouldn't be no compromise. Thanks!
@vernaC (1491)
• Romania
22 Jan 13
Sounds like me when I was a kid. Don't worry, his laziness will pass but of course a parent should keep on guiding him. about justifying, I think every child is just learning about logic and sometimes expressing it through justifying.
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
22 Jan 13
Great point vernaC! I think that you're right that 'justification' is just a new lesson that he's learning. And he may just be trying it out. Rest assured that I'll continue guiding him. Thanks for dropping by!