Paper cups and plates...
By ctryhnny
@ctryhnny (3460)
United States
February 2, 2013 6:25am CST
Since I live alone I don't have to set a nice table for meals. I use paper cups, bowls and plates. The way I see it I am saving on hot water and dish soap. Not to mention time spent standing in front of the sink. I buy all my paper goods at a dollar store around the corner from me and they are very cheap. When anyone comes here for coffee (which is very seldom) I get out the coffee cups but people like my son will use a styrofoam cup so I won't have to wash cups. Do you use paper products on a daily basis? Don't you find it so much easier than washing cups and saucers?
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28 responses
@Mavic123456 (21893)
• Thailand
2 Feb 13
Is this not environmental friendly Madam Ctryhhny? or they are biodegradable? I thought at first this is practical but... after the tons of garbage that washed with the flood in the Philippines, I thought it is not practical at all.
I don't know Madam Ctryhnny you know better. but yes that's good you don't need to wash
@redsniper (69)
• Philippines
2 Feb 13
I agree with CatGods and Mavic123456, yeah it's biodegradable type, but you're still using too much paper everyday. More demands on paper means more trees that we have to cut off. A single meal set, with one or two spoons, forks, plates, bowls and glasses, I don't think you'll be wasting too much water to wash them... don't you think so?
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
2 Feb 13
Hi there,
I am with the others here. You say it is biodegradable and all but still...it does go into the landfill and it does add to the problem. PLUS you are filling those plastic bags much quicker and so using more of them when you use these products on a regular basis. You live alone so time spent at the sink should be fairly minimal, I would think. I have my daughter and grandson here and we use regular dishes. After cooking dinner, it usually takes me about 20 mins at the most to do up all the dishes and wipe down the counters and table. Living alone, you could probably get away with doing them once a day and it might take just a few minutes. You are probably spending more on the trash bags than what you are saving on with the dishes.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
2 Feb 13
OOPS! Now I am embarassed, sid! I only DO dishes once every 3 days..that is only 3 plates, 3 sets of cutlery, 3 bowls..etc, with a few related pots and pans. Rinse after use and stack in sink (the beauty of living alone..haha!) Sounds like I am lazy..but NO, I don't see the necessity of that task as a daily occurence. Days OFF from work, I cook for the week..then there is a big MESS! And that day only takes me about 1/2 hour to take control!
I TRULY believe the word "biodegradable" is a misnomer and a term loosely tossed about by manufacturer's..20 to 30 years...and what is the residual effects? I truly hate plastics!
All your statements are truly bonafide!!!
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
2 Feb 13
Aww don't be embarrassed Pergammano. If it was just me here and I only had a few dishes, I would probably wait until they built up enough to make it worthwhile to even run the hot water. I have my daughter and grandson here with me and they pile up a lot quicker than if I were alone.
When I was here by my lonesome for a short little while, trust me...Vacuuming got done once a week and dishes were not done every day.
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@sid556 (30959)
• United States
2 Feb 13
Oh and I agree with the biodegradable term! It is more than likely being put into a plastic trash bag so who cares if it is biodegradable. Even if the bag itself were biodegradable, they don't tell you how long this process takes and it doesn't matter. If we are all adding to it daily, it will always be a constant and on-going problem. It isn't like when you throw a banana out onto the ground and you know it is going to either get eaten by an animal or mesh with the earth rather quickly and it won't be harmful. Im pretty sure(not positive) that styrofoam must have chemicals in it that are not good even IF biodegradable. I hate plastics too.
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@cutepenguin (6431)
• Canada
2 Feb 13
I don't find it that much work to wash dishes, but to each his own.
(I will point out though that there is also the environmental cost of shipping the paper plates and cups, as well as the fact that even if they are biodegradable, chemicals are still used to produce them, so there isn't really any environmental savings by not using soap and water to wash dishes. Everything is a tradeoff, eh?)
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@wilsongoddard (7291)
• United States
2 Feb 13
No, I don't. It's a horrible waste of natural resources--not to mention money.
How much time does it take to wash a mug and a bowl or plate? And how much hot water and dish liquid? The answer is "negligible."
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
2 Feb 13
@CatGods...GOOD ON YOU! I am so happy to have run across this discussion...You, sid and I (now wilsongoddard) seem to be the few that is concerned about the stewardship of this earth. The "buzzword" biodegradable is misleading, and a misnomer...Anything that breaks down in a lifetime (don't know whose?) is considered biodegradable...HUH? Chemical complex that leeches!
Thank you, CatGods, for taking a firm stance!
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
3 Feb 13
Bravo! Vinegar is my lifeline! Procter and Gamble, Johnson & Johnson...(some of the richest companies in the world) would GO broke if it were for the likes of us! I think my biggest challenge is to change a few mindsets and hopefully this discussion and your input, has changed just one!
@nyssa102 (748)
• United States
3 Feb 13
I agree with the use of natural cleaners, and wish many other people would as well. Chemicals are not natural, and they are extremely bad for our health. You are right in what you say about these chemicals. Many people have gotten environmental health disorders, where they cannot even go near household cleaners without getting an asthma attack. Pesticide use in apartment complexes also causes asthma in poor children there. Organic and home use, all the way.
@jugsjugs (12967)
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2 Feb 13
I think that it is a good idea to use paper plates and cups, as life is to short to keep cleaning up mess.I wish that at christmas we had also got paper plate and cups, as it would have saved so much time washing up, as well as keep trying to keep up with all the other things that were going on.
When I was well and we use to go away on holiday they were great as it gave us more time to enjoy all the things that we could do rather than keep washing up.
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@deebomb (15304)
• United States
5 Feb 13
CatGods not everyone That uses paper products at meal time is lazy or careless about the environment. Before you jump to conclusions you should look at other reasons some of us use paper products. My family we use paper plates because it is hard for me to handle dishes that need to be washed up. it is also hard for me to stand very long to do the washing up. So hurrah for paper products. I don't like adding to the lad fills but I also don't like pain.
@Raine38 (12391)
• United States
2 Feb 13
I still prefer the washable dishes over the paper ones. I hate to produce more trash than necessary. Besides, my sister knows how to make organic dish washing liquid soap and by using water wisely, I guess yeah its better for me than to use the paper cups. Although when we are having some barbecue or picnic I always bring the paper plates and paper cups.
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@Kashmeresmycat (6369)
• United States
2 Feb 13
I use regular dishes and glasses and I live alone too. It only takes me a couple of minutes to do the dishes everyday and I don't mind doing them. The only time I've used paper plates or cups was on a picnic. Even when we went camping we would have a combination of paper and regular dishes, etc. They have a sink at the campgrounds for anyone who wants to wash dishes so I would go there because we were camping for days. That's about the only time I ever use paper plates and cups. I do use paper towels though for certain clean-ups, otherwise, I use a sponge or dishrag and then wash them in the laundry when I do that.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Feb 13
hik ctryhnny when we were still in our apartment I always cooked for my self as my son worked odd hours and ate at work. I never thought about using paper p ates but looking back as even then I had to use a quad cane to do much long walking, it would have eliminated time spent doing the washing up routine after my meals. I don't know guess it was just habit b t I had not thought of using paper plates and cups and bowls. But I did find I could have my groceries delivered to my apartment so i did not have to lug groceries every other day . I had a bad shoulder even then plus a bad foot. lolI do think its a neat idea b ut still one would get tired of it after awhile I
would think.lol
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@alottodo (3056)
• Australia
3 Feb 13
At the end of the day every one do as they wish I don't like paper plates or paper cups I do prefer the real thing I live on my own and I still set up my place mat for my dinner and still eat in the dinning room! I guess some habits are hard to brake.
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@lelin1123 (15595)
• Puerto Rico
2 Feb 13
If I lived alone I probably would do the same as you. I would only use the good stuff for company. Like you said it saves so much on the hot water, soap but the best is not having to stand at the kitchen sink. However, my hubby hates paper products so there is no way he would put up with that. He deals with it for cook outs but for a regular hot meal on a paper plate that won't be happening in our house. The best that he will deal with is the dessert paper plates and that's about it.
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@natliegleb (5175)
• India
2 Feb 13
they are quite handy and you can use it and throw it well in advance and are also suave to use all the time and i prefer it because there is no risk of it
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Feb 13
cat g ods when my son a nd i shared an apt we were always runing
into our dumpster being overflowing before it was picked up so now imagine if all one hundred families all started sing paper goods exclusively the fifty dumpsters would be overflowing long before they were ordinarily. so no a pox on added paper stuff to the dumpsters that were already overstuffed. I never used paper goods as I wanted to feel I owed it to my self to have a nice plate and glass even if I was all alone.
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@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
2 Feb 13
good idea.. as all money saved Im sure helps you there. I use alot of paper cups here in my cafe.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
2 Feb 13
hi catgods good thinking as to begin with having to buy a lot of
paper goods would cost much more than just washing the few things I dirtied making my meals along and oh my gosh the garbage that creates. where we were we had maybe fifty dumpsters and over a hundred families in out gated apt complex and they were always full before pick up time so if all who cooked alone also used all paper
goods it would have made it ten times worse.Too when you go that route you start to eat wrongly too and as a diabetic I could not afford to not eat right. no I did not mind washing up for one person.Also a lot of paper plates would not have held up under some of my pasta meals like spaghetti and meat balls. lol I do niot think a lot of plastic coated paper goods breaks down all that fast either.
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@Nursefrai06 (2498)
• Penrith, Australia
3 Feb 13
Yes I do! It's so much easier, and that's true about them being very cheap, I don't know about the styro though. Styro is bad for you and for the environment. Especially when you use I to contain hot substances, it sometimes melts and mixes in your food. Styro is known to be poison and can cause cancer. It's bad for the environment too because it takes so long o decompose and when it does, it gets really toxic for the soil.
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@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
3 Feb 13
Sadly, this world needs so much more education! One just needs to visit just ONE PULP Paper mill to see the amount of chemicals and toxins it takes to Bleach Wood Pulp and make it aesthetically pleasingly white! The vapours from these chemicals are openly leeched into the environment! You demand more Paper Plates...you demand more use of these toxins.
@wolfie34 (26771)
• United Kingdom
26 Mar 13
I'd much rather use my mug, I don't like the taste you get from drinking coffee or any other liquid out of a styrofoam cup. Even though they are cheap, it's still an additional cost, do you recycle your paper cups and plates, i.e. can you use them more than once, or once they are dirty you throw them away?
@kareng (61153)
• United States
2 Feb 13
If it was only me here, I would do the same thing. I really don't mind washing dishes for the two of us. But if the kids were still home it would be a full time job trying to keep dishes clean--even if it was loading the dishwasher and unloading it. We always had a rule that if you eat a sandwich or need to microwave something, then you use a paper plate. Much easier! And kudos to your son for being so considerate of you! You raised that boy right!
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@ElicBxn (63638)
• United States
9 Mar 13
I don't but that's because I consider it a waste of resources - paper in this case.
The water does have to be cleaned, but the more solid wastes go to make compost and they use the water to do various things before they put it back into the river. One water treatment plant uses the cleaned water to water the golf course...
@pergammano (7682)
• Canada
2 Feb 13
I am sorry, but I am not concurrent with this plan! Living on a SMALL Island...I must be extremely frugal about what goes into the land fill and/or the environmental impact of burning this type of refuse, let alone the resource for the paper, and the impact that industry makes on the environment! I, too do live alone, but use standard cutlery and dishes. I heat water on my wood-stove which is functional by using Alder (a tree from the Cottonwood family, and grows like a weed)and not revered for usual construction, etc. I collect all my rainwater in HUGE storage tanks!
I am not here to oppose you, if you find this frugal, but my concern is the added refuse!
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@marguicha (223720)
• Chile
28 Feb 13
In my country, paper cups and plates are far more expensive than normal ones and I could not vouch that they are environmental safe. I have a cup for my smallest granddaughter and that is all. I bought a lot of unexpensive dishes and rinse them a bit with cold water if they are very dirty and place them in the dishwasher. The dishwasher only washes with cold water and uses very little detergent. I fill it up and then I push the start button. I only handwash pots and skillets.
@topffer (42156)
• France
2 Feb 13
I also live alone, and I have tried paper plates, but I definitely prefer a real plate, though I use plastic cups and glasses. I know it is not friendly for the environment -- and not so cheap than paper --, but it is less dishes to wash when I don't receive friends at home -- when somebody comes I do like you : I get out real glasses and cups --.
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