How do you deal with a pushy horse

@lulu897 (176)
Canada
November 23, 2006 11:18am CST
If you had a horse that was a little too pushy, how would you deal with it. I am in the process of teaching my big guy manners but we seem to fight every night, I always win of course but I am so tired of the same old fight. he pushes I push back , he pinns his ears. I have never hit him and I don't intend to either. Can a horse just be crusty all the time?
3 responses
• United States
24 Dec 06
Just remember, as I'm sure you already know, horses need a leader. Every herd has one. You need to make sure that you make it clear that you are the leader or he will continue to fight you for the position And, when he pushes you around, you need to push back- which is why you need to hit him when he does this-i'm not saying be abusive but you are a lot smaller than he is and you still have to show that you are dominant. A wack on the shoulder with the crop when he pushes you and making him back away a couple steps would be a good start. Keep working at it with him
@lulu897 (176)
• Canada
26 Dec 06
Joey and I are getting better. It's been about a year that we have had the horses home and I am learning the hard way. I have been working with Joe in his stall and we are doing great. I started bring the crop in the stall and I hit the wall, it's just like a warning kick to him and he behaves. He also had a habit of turning his bum to me and pretending to be interested in his hay , I started banging on the stall wall (lots of noise) until he turned and faced me, he is really starting to listen. I am proud of our accomplishments even if it is only baby steps. Thanks for your comment
@lulu897 (176)
• Canada
26 Dec 06
Thanks for the advice , We already do circle in his stall ,, we are pretty good at that. for last couple of weeks he has been good. Maybe he was sore and that was making him cranky. When he first came home, he was a sweety, then my mare got hurt pretty bad and he got cranky and pushy now he seems to be back to his sweet self. I wish I could read their minds.
@melanie652 (2524)
• United States
26 Nov 06
Him pinning his ears at you is a sign of disrespect. He's trying to tell you he's boss. Watch horses in a pasture and you'll see pinned ears, kicking, biting, etc is how they establish the pecking order. Work him in a round pen. That's the best thing I've found to do with horses that won't respect me. Have you ever seen Monty Roberts or Clinton Anderson or anyone else do that before? It does work! When he's being disrepectful work him in that round pen. When he's burned off some steam, try him again on picking up his feet or whatever you were trying. He disrepects you, run him around again. He will give in and you will get your way. May take 2 or 3 times before he gets it, but he will and you'll have won your battle and nobody got hurt. Best of luck!
@lulu897 (176)
• Canada
26 Nov 06
Thanks for the tips,, we just put up a new barn and are in the process of putting up a riding ring and round pen,, right now I don't have any place to work him ,, we usually lunge him on the lunge line but we haven't done it in awhile,, I won't do it alone and my husband has been working very long hours. Once we are settled he will be worked more. I can't wait till my round pen is done ,, I know they learn alot in there
• Canada
23 Nov 06
What you do is you push the horse over and yell in a firm voice, "Get over". Smack him on his shoulder. If he doesn't move over. Step on his pasturn on the front of his hoof (if you are on the left step on his left pasturn) and shove him over with all of you weight and tell him "GET OVER" and lightly smack him on his shoulder. It always work for me. YES HORSES GET CRUSTY MOST OF THE TIME!! It could be pain, boreduim, in Heat, PMS day. PLEASE, PLEASE REMEMBER DON'T HIT ON THE HEAD BECAUSE IF CAUSES HEAD SHY. Also grab his halter or bridle and smack him lightly with the rein or shank on the rump and tell him to move over with authority. REMEMBER U ARE THE BOSS!!
@lulu897 (176)
• Canada
23 Nov 06
Hi, Thanks for your response. Joey doesn't listen to anything but the crop. I don't hit him but I do smack the stall wall it makes a loud smack then I have his full attention , ears forward and chewing. He is just responding to pressure with my finger in his shoulder, the other night I must have stood there pushing into his shoulder with my finger for 5 minutes , my arm was tired but I wasn't giving in, finally he stepped over and I rewarded him. we do this every night he is getting better, but very slowly. I don't think he is the problem ,, in fact I know I am . I have been working more with not letting him win.