They did it all for me, and I am just an ingrate

They built the site to become famous and rich. They moved on to Sweeble for the same reason. Everyone wants to be Mark Zuckerberg.

@Raelove I have just spent some time watching video interviews and reading press releases from way back when. The social media site that pays was the model. And they expressed a desire to make it possible for people in third world countries to earn some money to improve their lots in life. Then they blocked those countries.

@Raelove I completely agree, if he was honest and really in trouble and would asked us to help, I am sure that many of us would have accepted to work for a certain period without earnings. This is not the case he cheated us.

Yes, the B site. I doubt the owners set it up out of charity. They expect to make money and somehow, we are supposed to do it out of love.

@Rollo1 Thats so true they are earning money off us for writing but then they are not sharing it with us like they promised. I've written on lots of sites over the years. I love the connection with others but once they stop paying it just becomes a waste of my time so I quit. I go on facebook and socialize that is the only thing I do online that I don't earn money for. I feel the rest of my time should be spent earning some extra money towards my kids Christmas presents and birthday presents and a summer of fun. Right now I am in need of another van so that is what all my money is going to be going towards. A little extra money from online sites will help.

@Rollo1 So we provide our love of communication as an act of charity, so they can waste more money, travelling the world, trying to launch their stupid Sweeble toy...boy that's charitable,.. albeit we kept the site afloat through all that 'Class Act' kerfuffle that came close to taking the site to it's graveyard...so never mind 'money' not even, something as cheap as gratitude....

To some extent, I think that is a reasonable motive for being there. Except that they make money, even if they don't pay it to anyone else. Maybe they are making a lot less than they did even when the lowered the pay rate. Maybe they spent it on those two parties they threw this summer where the champagne flowed and nubile young women in bikinis draped themselves over the shoulders of the B -Team. Who knows?

I feel a little stupid for believing them and trying so hard to keep people there for so long. Now, I guess I am a complainer.

@Rollo1 I've no faith in them whatsoever and the site is bound to die soon.

@Rollo1 Well we were all hopeful for a rebound. They said that the site was making more money than it was giving out. If that were true then paying people would be to their advantage. That's why I asked them to explain their business model yesterday because what they are doing and said don't match at all.

@Rollo1 Yes, I am aware of Bubblews. I still have an account with them. However, I no longer write for them. As I will no guess if I will be paid or not. They did people dirty. I do not like doing business with websites I know that are shady. Bubblews is hady.

@Raelove They are selfish and want all the money for themselves. More like scammers who don't care about their members. As long as they get their money.

A lot of sites have payment dates and all payments are issued weekly or monthly. Bubblews never did that. They've been having this payment trouble since 2013.

Without our writing, they wouldn't have a site. But they act like they are doing us a favor and get all hurt if we want the money after a year of writing for them.

It's highly unlikely that they've been starving and living in an attic for the last three years. In fact, they've been partying by the pool . They threw two huge parties this summer for their new project, complete with champagne and scantily-clad girls.

We stayed to support one another and we accepted the slow earnings. But since it's not so easy to redeem, they can't be overloaded with requests.

Helium changed terms almost as often as the B-team did. I gave them a second chance, more fool me and it's all on me that I did. But even I reach a point where I have to give up any hope. There is one who defends all the time, but is now a member who is part of management, so defense is her job. I wouldn't do it. I couldn't do it.

@Rollo1 Is she paid for it tho' or does it just make her feel important?

@thea09 I couldn't say for sure but based on what I saw said, it may be that she is compensated. I don't know which is worse, really. I suppose it could be need or naivete. I mean, true believers have worked against their own best interests before.

It is my opinion that if you have a contract, then say the rules and terms have changed, but still pay people according to the contract, then you've affirmed the contract and the duty to pay.

Even my blogs are monetized. I don't need to get people to see what I write, I do it for pay, and that's just how shallow I am.

@Rollo1 It's how we all are in this world of wanting more. We don't write just for pleasure unless it's at a write-for-pleasure site. I did that for years and had fun, but now I like a monetary reward even if it's pennies.

Glad to hear it. Every time I can't get in, I wonder if I am banned

Yes, I was just there, too, and keep getting the blue screen. Do you think it's because they want to slow down people deleting their posts?

@Rollo1 my thoughts as well - I have tried all afternoon and evening. Its the third time this week - tells me something is BREWING again!!! I am so close to that 50 - i will be so pisssssssss$$ if they CRASH!!!

The majority of people who join a site that pays, join because it pays. Simple and logical. But they get all hurt and wounded if people are unhappy because they weren't paid, telling us how hard they are working.

I don't think you can sue them, most place have it in the TOS that you will use mediation or arbitration.

I don't want to send them to hell. I don't even want to sue them. I would like it though, if they stopped acting as if we did something wrong in asking for payment.

Well it's just stupid. It's like I invite you over for dinner and then express surprise that you expected food to be served. And then accuse you of only visiting me when you're hungry. They seem to forget, they invited us.

Exactly. They told us they paid for content and interaction and we believed them.

Well... yes. I really hate dishonesty. And just being silent when people ask questions is a form of dishonesty. Tell me terrible truths, but don't tell me lies and never pretend you didn't hear me ask the question. Riled. Yes.