Trophy? Medal? None?

@DianneN (247186)
United States
April 25, 2016 8:08am CST
Too many children have been awarded honors just for participating in a sport or competition. Parents don't want their child's feelings hurt. They don't want their child to give up. They don't want tears. After all, they tried their best. Is that fair? My grandson took Tae Kwon Do at a venue where all the children received a belt, whether they deserved one or not. He is at a new venue where they must earn their belt before they can move on. Sure, he wasn't prepared on several attempts, but it made him pay attention, work harder, and earn his belts. The same happened during my granddaughter's figure skating competitions at one venue, where everyone received a medal. This was done solely to prevent hurt feelings and discouragement. I think this place wanted to keep their customers coming back. Afterall, ice time is costly. What do you think?
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@fishtiger58 (29820)
• Momence, Illinois
25 Apr 16
I think that if you take away all disappointment from kids that it's possible they will not understand disappointment when they get into the adult world. We all have disappointments in our lives and we have learned to deal with them and move on. So if they don't deserve it they shouldn't receive it. Simply my opinion.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
That is the truth of the matter.
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@fishtiger58 (29820)
• Momence, Illinois
25 Apr 16
@DianneN Disappoint is a fact of life, protecting our kids from it is really not doing them any favors.
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@LadyDuck (471992)
• Switzerland
25 Apr 16
@fishtiger58 I read your comment after I posted mine and I see that we said the same thing.
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@jaboUK (64354)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 16
I think it's ridiculous - how are they going to learn to take the inevitable knocks of life when they are adults? It's important to learn how to lose.
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@LadyDuck (471992)
• Switzerland
25 Apr 16
I agree, this is surely not a way to help the kids grow. They can satisfy those who do not deserve the prize, but they discourage competition.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
Isn't it ridiculous?!? I strongly agree!
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
@LadyDuck That is true. Some children expect everything handed to them on a silver platter.
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@Shavkat (140102)
• Philippines
25 Apr 16
I do think children had worked so hard to earn a reward. It is starting point where they can be trained to be competitive in a friendly way.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
Perhaps toddlers.
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
25 Apr 16
At that age, winning or losing shouldn't be a bit issue.
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@boiboing (13153)
• Northampton, England
25 Apr 16
@DianneN But she and they know that she's better than the kids who fall over. I don't really see the problem. Better to encourage kids to be rubbish at sport than to drive them back to the X-box and Playstations because they get told they're rubbish every time that they try.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
@boiboing No one is calling them rubbish or making them feel that way, hopefully. There are so many sports for young kids to try, and I'm sure good coaches encourage kids. As far as my granddaughter goes, she has seen girls out there much, much better than she is. She just works harder, because it comes from within. She's competitive, while others may not be. Her dad, my son, had two left feet. We encouraged him to participate in a variety of sports, knowing how important they were for getting into a good university. We told him in third grade that he had to choose one sport. He chose swimming and excelled in it. It served him well later in life. There is something for everyone and if one doesn't have the desire, they can play ball in the yard or ride a bike, read a book or draw a picture. All parents, btw, should monitor game playing. Even my grandchildren play, but have rules.
@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
It is an issue, because many of these children are very serious in their chosen sports. For instance, take my granddaughter, who is on the ice before and after school for hours, has coaches, does off ice practices, etc. and works very hard. Then she performs, trying her best, while others come out falling, wobbling on their skates, starting before the music begins, ending well before or after the music, blah, blah. Why should these children all receive medals?
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@JudyEv (341752)
• Rockingham, Australia
25 Apr 16
One of our top schools now prepares students for failure and disappointments by making it much less easy for them to get top marks. The world isn't fair and at some point children need to learn that you can't always have things handed to you on a plate. Certainly tae kwon do belts shouldn't be handed out unless the child can meet the requirements. Just my take on it...:)
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
Your take is correct. I see this happening in so many activities for children. They must learn from failure and work hard to improve, if that's what they want. The last school in which I taught had an honors program. The students had to meet strict requirements to be accepted. One child missed by a percentage of a point, and was turned away. The parents went berserk, but the school held fast to their requirements. I hope that student works harder, and realizes that Mommy and Daddy can't perform miracles.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
@JudyEv No, the school held fast to their principles, thank goodness.
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@JudyEv (341752)
• Rockingham, Australia
26 Apr 16
@DianneN I would hate to see a school change a policy because parents went berserk. They need to learn too I think.
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@JohnRoberts (109846)
• Los Angeles, California
25 Apr 16
We live in too much of a touchy feely world that is ill preparing children for the harsh realities of life. You don't get a paycheck just for existing. It has to be earned.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
Agreed! You don't get into Harvard with a C report card either.
• Grand Junction, Colorado
25 Apr 16
Rewarding all children for participation doesn't teach children how to loose. We can't always win, even when we try our best and children should be prepared for those times. When I grew up everyone didn't receive an award or a ribbon or a belt, etc... The winners and the champions received an award, the rest of us didn't and I think we were better prepared for life. I have no ill feelings about where I stood in competitions, I was rewarded appropriately. I think we have to much coddling and politically correctness in the world, people are over sensitive about everything. Of course that's just my 2 cents worth!
• Grand Junction, Colorado
25 Apr 16
@DianneN, it made us stronger people, able to deal with disappointment in life. That was good fundamental learning. I lost most of the time too, but I always did my best and listened to my coaches and instructors, so while I lost I also gained knowledge for the next time.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
I like your two cents worth! None of this coddling happened when I was growing up either, especially since I was always a loser! Lol!
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
@beaniefanatic13 That is how it should be. Fortunately, my grandchildren are learning skills and good sportsmanship.
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
26 Apr 16
Children should understand that this world is competitive world and they will have to carve out their niche to succeed in life. If in an event everyone is awarded a medal just for participation, the kids will not learn the importance of number one, two or three. I remember an incident. My son was in Nursery class. When the results of final exams (whatever was the level at Nursery) were declared he did not get any award/prize, but his close friends who stood first, second or third received the prize. When we went to fetch the result and he came to know that he stood nowhere in the class, he cried like he had lost the world and kept crying for a long time. It was so much and so that we had to request the class teacher that you could give him a pencil just to encourage him that he also performed well in his exams. However, it seems that incident left an indelible impression on his mind and he started working harder in his studies and thereafter, he never looked back. He used to be at first or second position in his each and every class.
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@dpk262006 (58678)
• Delhi, India
27 Apr 16
@DianneN - Yes, by the grace of God he became self motivated and we just guided him and rest of things he did himself. You are right that we are proud of his achievements.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
Good for your son. Sometimes it is difficult for parents, but we are only making it better for them to give their best effort to succeed in whatever they choose to do. You must be so proud of him!
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@much2say (55901)
• Los Angeles, California
25 Apr 16
This is how it is with the tae kwon do competitions we go to - everyone wins a medal. "They" tell us it's all about the experience of competition . . . but many of us parents have discussed it's another way for them to reel in more money from us. The kids end up knowing they will bring home "something" regardless of how they do (which may not make them try their absolute best in later competitions) and they don't think harder about how to do things better next time. There's more to it, but we are DONE with these competitions - there is one coming up next month and we refuse to go.
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@much2say (55901)
• Los Angeles, California
25 Apr 16
@DianneN Our studio is owned by our Korean Master. It's also a "house of discipline", teaching respect and all that stuff. He USED to be excellent in every way - that's why we stayed all this time. But ever since the studio moved, he's gotten weird and has become Mr. Moneybags - though he would completely deny it. You may remember the whole soap thing for the kids Christmas party gift. My daughter is almost 2nd degree black belt - and my little son has just started his testing for black belt. When we are done with the tests, we will be done with the studio. Nope, we won't be looking for other studios - we will be moving onto other things. I'm so glad your grandson found a good studio. Having a trusting relationship (and seeing most excellent results) is so important . . . unfortunately our Master has lost sight of his tkd "business".
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
@much2say Congratulations on your children achieving black plus belt status. I remember the soap incident and don't blame you. I think it's wise to expose kids to all kinds of activities and sports at that age, too. When they are older, they will return to the one they love most.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
I know you have mentioned it to me recently. That was how my grandson's old place was. This place was the first I've ever been to in my life. It is owned by Koreans and everyone who works there seemed so professional. The kids answered with Yes, Sir, and No, Mame. There are taught respect, manners, patience, compassion for others, good behavior, as well as their skills. I was so impressed, especially seeing them in action. They allow the students to go to classes as often as they'd like. They told my grandson that he had to work harder, before he could earn the green belt. So he did. And did again, before they thought he was ready. Kudos to them, and kudos to my grandson. Will you look into another place? I thought it was amazing.
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• Merced, California
26 Apr 16
It is a good thing to have them earned not given. Me as a fighter becoming skilled and earning your belts is more honorable. With the skills you learn they can save your life one day, you can be given a belt, That is like a black belt is given to you then you end up getting your butt kicked.
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• Merced, California
26 Apr 16
@DianneN Thank you it is the truth i have been in situations to where i had to defend myself, what they are doing is dangerous, somebody would challenge them guranteed.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
@davidalicea100 He's prepared now, because he wanted to be.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
Lol! I love how you put that, and it's the truth!
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@BelleStarr (61102)
• United States
26 Apr 16
I think anyone who. Has watched American idol tryouts has seen what happens when parents don't let their children fail and give them unrealistic expectations of their talent. I think we need to earn rewards or they are meaningless.
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@BelleStarr (61102)
• United States
26 Apr 16
@DianneN I always love it when they are crying saying my mama told me I am a great singer and I could win!!! Your mama is delusional and she didn't do you any favor by not telling you your voice is like chalk on a blackboard lol
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
Oh, yes. American Idol sure is a great example!
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
@BelleStarr . I couldn't believe their idiot parents said they were so wonderful, but only a mother could love it. Lol!
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@Juliaacv (51458)
• Canada
26 Apr 16
I remember when our son was growing up, and I know now with my nephews, they recognize this and they don't want to be a part of something that is not truly testing their skills. Part of life is being unsuccessful, and kids need to learn that early on.
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@Juliaacv (51458)
• Canada
26 Apr 16
@DianneN Yes, although winning is great, the art of losing is something an acquired skill. Our son played on a soccer team one year that only won about 1 or 2 games all season, it taught him team work and sportsmanship. And then the next year, when he was on a team that won all of their games, he was a much more gracious winner and not boastful. And cheering from the sidelines, we also enjoyed a slice of that humble pie.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
27 Apr 16
@Juliaacv That's how it should be in team and individual sports. The little girl whose brothers were killed by their nanny is ice skating friends with my little granddaughter and came in first place in one event. My granddaughter came in second. Everyone was happy for her and no one wished anything but good for that child, including my granddaughter. That is life.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
I agree. Kids need to learn to work hard and put in the effort to achieve anything in life, and learn to be good losers if they don't. That's having good sportsmanship, which so many lack, too.
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@Drosophila (16571)
• Ireland
26 Apr 16
In one of the school dramas, I was given a big part before it was taken away from me and given to another girl more suited for the role. I was hugely upset and vented to my Ma a lot. Her response was "unfortunately that's what happens in life sometimes. you will need to resolve this yourself. you can either speak to the teacher about this. Or just accept the change". I was too chicken to do anything. So I accepted the situation as it was. But I was still miserable and continue to rant to my Ma, she then said "well if it bothers you that much, you should speak to the teacher." I did end up speaking to the teacher about it, but it was too late to make the change. So I was stuck with the minor part. But that situation did teach me one thing, you ain't always gonna get the medals, or the encouragement, or the prize you think you're entitled to. But it doesn't mean you're powerless to do something about it. I think giving out medals randomly is not a form of encouragement, it actually undervalues the point of prize, or the spirit of competition. Encouragement comes in many different forms, allowing the children a fair chance to compete maybe the best encouragement of all.
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@Drosophila (16571)
• Ireland
26 Apr 16
@DianneN Indeed and these kids are going to have a rude awakening when they hit the real world. Yep the drama thing was one of my marked memories.. I shoulda speak up sooner. But I am glad my Ma let me try to sort it out myself, instead of speaking with the teacher herself. It helps to know at a young age, you need to be able to deal with things, and only if you can't you should "escalate" not the first sign of trouble run home crying.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
@Drosophila Your mom was wise, and I'm sure it helped you through life. Parents today are their kids worst enemy.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
Wow! What a sad thing to happen to you. I don't think that was right to be given the lead, then having it snatched from you. I guess you learned a lesson from your mom. Perhaps you would have gotten back the lead, or a reason why not if you didn't wait so long. Giving out medals, without having put in the effort, is pointless in my book. Some kids today expect everything handed to them on a silver platter. I've even heard of parents asking teachers to change their child's grade to an "A" to get into better schools!
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26 Apr 16
I think there should be some kind of reward for participating but greater rewards for actually earning something or accomplishing something.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
Like what? For what?
@DianneN (247186)
• United States
26 Apr 16
@jrlake2414 Thanks for explaining it to me. I'm really not very familiar with it. I suppose most schools run it in different ways. At least my grandson is motivated enough to try to earn each belt.
26 Apr 16
@DianneN Well, for example with Karate. If you accomplish your goals you move up a belt. If you miss your goals but your karate leader recognizes the amount of effort you put in you get recognized in a way that makes you stand out a little like leading the group in training exercises for one day. I think you should be rewarded for accomplishments but there has to be something to motivate those that do try but fail at first to keep going.
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@valmnz (17097)
• New Zealand
27 Apr 16
I think kids learn more by having to take a few knock backs. It's how they practice for the grown up world.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
27 Apr 16
Unfortunate, but true!
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• United States
25 Apr 16
I don't think everyone should get a medal it should be for the winners, maybe a ribbon for the ones that didn't win.It is a way to learn, you are not always going to win, and good for kids to understand this and congratulate the other winners. I know at a lot of the Karate competitions they do give everyone a trophy who participated, the winners get a bigger one. We have a race at the Oktoberfest, only the top 3 runners in each age category get a price, gold, silver, bronze.
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• United States
29 Apr 16
@DianneN oh yes to the professionals
@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
It could depend on the sport, too. They do give rings to all the winners of the Super Bowl! Lol!
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@gudheart (12659)
25 Apr 16
I think everyone that takes part should win a medal but of course the winner should win a special gold medal.
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@Hatley (163776)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Apr 16
@DianneN me either the medal or trophy should mean something should be earned not just given free
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
That doesn't make sense to me.
@imravi (2337)
• India
25 Apr 16
It's a good idea to award every child because it inspires them to work harder and go ahead...but as the child grows he should understand the reality and practice harder to get rewarded....
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
I can see rewarding children below five years old, but it doesn't make sense to me to hand out awards to everyone after that. They must earn their rewards.
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@imravi (2337)
• India
25 Apr 16
@DianneN yeah that's what I am saying that when a child grows he or she should understand that life is competetion and everyone is not going to be same and work accordingly to their need....
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@sol_cee (38219)
• Philippines
27 Apr 16
Most private schools do that. During recognition days or moving up ceremonies, everyone gets to take a chance to go to the stage to receive a certificate for something- Most Lovable Student, Most Charming Smile, Most Perfect Hairstyle. The more the awards, the happier the parents.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
27 Apr 16
I did see some of those awards when my boys went to school, but not for sports or honors classes.
@AnneEJ (4917)
• Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, Quebec
25 Apr 16
I think that is a very good idea. It must be hard on children who work real hard, but don't quite reach the top, when only one person is rewarded.
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@DianneN (247186)
• United States
25 Apr 16
What is a good idea? Giving them all awards? I know in ice skating, there are three place medals. In tae kwon do, there can be many or very few who receive a new belt. Children have to learn to work hard if they want to compete and learn good sportsmanship while they're at it. That is real life.
@AnneEJ (4917)
• Dollard-Des-Ormeaux, Quebec
26 Apr 16
@DianneN I guess it depends on what they are competing in.
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