What's Up With The Transgender Toilets?

United States
May 15, 2016 12:30am CST
It's really embarrassing that here in America we are arguing over transgenders and toilets. Now the president is involved and says that boys have to be able to use girls bathrooms and visa versa or he's going to stop funding public schools. That's all good for him, his girls go to private school. I think there's something bigger going on. I'm mostly worried about boys dressing like girls and going into the girls locker rooms in schools and public pools. It seems to me like it's just giving pedophiles a green light to get at our children.
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• United States
15 May 16
Here's the issue though. Someone that identifies as female should be allowed in the female bathroom. They're female. Their brains are female. And many get bullied not allowed in the bathrooms. People have been beaten up and killed over this back when we were in an ignorant time. And then the idea of giving them their own bathrooms is sort of the same as when we had segregation in the US. White vs black toilets. They just want to feel right in their own skin. Not alienated.
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• United States
15 May 16
But what about the guy who gets the idea to dress like a woman just so he can go in the girls locker room? How about dad? Does he let his little girl go in the ladies room by herself or does he take her in the men's. room? It's a mess and is exactly why I do all I can to avoid public restrooms and never, ever let my grandchildren go in alone. I don't see any solution to this problem, I realize stores and restaurants can't possibly pay someone to stand at the restroom doors and keep watch.
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• United States
15 May 16
@CrazyAnimaLady She doesn't "have" to use the boys toilet. I have no problem with a girl dressed like a boy using the girls bathroom. In fact my children had a friend who was a girl and dressed like a boy. So we all use the same bathroom is that what you're saying? That should be fun.
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• United States
15 May 16
@PrarieStyle And what about the girl that gets beat up because she has to use the boy's toilet? Separate bathrooms is segregation plain and simple.
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@JohnRoberts (109846)
• Los Angeles, California
15 May 16
You express the point many are making and others are not comprehending.
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• United States
15 May 16
It's awful. I have no problem with people who cross dress but I feel this whole thing is giving a green light to pedophiles.
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
16 May 16
@JohnRoberts read my comment and then tell me who isn't comprehending?
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
16 May 16
I understand the concern for abuse. It is a very important consideration and should be addressed seriously. However, lets take into consideration the little girl who is only 8 years old who for whatever reason (I don't claim to be an expert) is making a transition from one gender to another. I will not judge other people in this way. If some parent starts yelling "you stinking little pedophile, stay out of the washroom" then I think hate, ignorance and bias has gone too far. How do you feel about that side of the issue?
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• United States
16 May 16
@JohnRoberts That's where I'm at. I'm not about any children or adults getting bullied or beat up. I'm sure many will disagree with me but, I see transgender and gay as a mental illness and I'd never abuse or condone abuse verbally or physically.
@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
16 May 16
@JohnRoberts I just didn't want to write the exact same thing again. You said others were not comprehending and I thought there was more than just one way to look at these issues. When put the way you have here of course no one wants to open a loophole to abusive behavior. We both certainly can agree on this. On a side note I just wonder if someone could describe what a transgender toilet looks like. Would it be different than any other toilet?
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@JohnRoberts (109846)
• Los Angeles, California
16 May 16
You say I am not comprehending? I am only pointing out the abuse issue which you agree with. It's not about being against transgendered using public bathrooms but opening a loophole for perverts and those screaming "haters" etc to those opposing the law fail to comprehend the abuse issue and will not acknowledge it or discuss a means of trying to make this work for everyone.
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@Shavkat (140097)
• Philippines
15 May 16
I hope it will not have a proposal of having a separate toilet for transgender. But then, it would appear to be a context of discrimination.
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• Calgary, Alberta
16 May 16
It will keep them safe from more discrimination though. so it has both pros and cons. They wont be attacked by transphobics if they have their own toilet.
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• United States
16 May 16
@CaptAlbertWhisker That's a good point. But many small businesses can't afford to put in a whole new bathroom or even have the space for one.
• United States
16 May 16
@CaptAlbertWhisker I think they'll still be discriminated though. The attackers are going to attack no matter what.
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@LadyDuck (471968)
• Switzerland
15 May 16
I remember when I was young, my brother went to a public school and they had toilets in common with the girls. I cannot remember problems about this. I went to a private school, but it was not for the toilet, my father wanted a more "girlish" education for me, especially with good manners.
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• United States
15 May 16
I think this all leading to something bigger like Transhumanism and the melding together of the sexes to break down families.
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@Bluedoll (16773)
• Canada
16 May 16
@LadyDuck That is such a good point. Perhaps the old way of doing things in school like lots of supervision was a good thing. I wonder if cutbacks, overpopulation of schools has caused less or it is an actual shift in how students are treated? I don't think the problem that is being discussed is about children though but exists with the adults. @PrarieStyle I understand being worried or feeling threatened. Changes are frightening. Old ways are tossed out for new ways. Trans-humanism though even though it has a trans in the word has little or nothing to do with this movement I think?
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@LadyDuck (471968)
• Switzerland
16 May 16
@PrarieStyle No, I believe that in the past times there were more discipline, the students were never left alone. I remember that there was a teacher in front of the restrooms when we were in school during the break, just to check that there was nothing wrong.
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@TheHorse (220068)
• Walnut Creek, California
17 May 16
To me, it's just something to talk about. There are very few transgender people (I live in the notoriously odd San Francisco Bay Area and think I've met maybe one) and for most, it's not an issue.
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• United States
17 May 16
I kind of agree with you Horse. I think there is a bigger picture. There really aren't very many transgenders. We used to call them "cross-dressers". I used to work with a woman who dressed like a man. I never had a problem with her nor even thought about what bathroom she used. I don't think I even cared. My children had a friend they brought home who was a girl who dressed like a boy. I did all I could to make her feel at home. She had an awful family and upbringing so I wanted her to feel safe and loved at our home. I think Transhumanism isn't too far off.