Trying to catch a cheater in my class on Monday night.

kinda ballsy 'f that student to tell ya such, eh? i hope that'cher efforts 're successful, hon. i dunno how students cheat these days, but with all the technology 'vailable to 'em, such'd not surprise me. 75 'tis a be'n yer class?? dang! i'd been'n the deans list if'n i'd professors with such a scale, lol.

My only thought is that if these students put as much effort into learning as cheating they would end up being better people.

Are you handing out the same tests for all your classes? Some version/order previously?

I hope he isn't cheating. I loved when I took psychology in college-even though I didn't do well in it. It was a tough class but very interesting still.

No help from here also.Never been there

I can't help you here. I cheated pre-e-gadgets.

I do not know how they would cheat but they probably find a way.

I remember how we cheated when I was a student, I suppose that now they cheat using their smart phones. May be they download the books they need to browse to find the replies.

Until you said he told you he just needed the credit to get into the other school, I was going to suggest he might have a problem similar to the one Pretty had her senior year in college. Something happened during the summer between her junior year and her senior year at college. Whatever happened, it caused her to become agoraphobic. She would have panic attacks if she left her dorm room to attend classes (or any other reason, too.) so ask her friends to record the lectures so she could listen to them in her room. She forced herself to attend class to take the exams. She completed her senior year and received her credentials that way. You should have been there when I went to pick her up to bring her home from school. If I hadn't simply carried everything in her room to the car, she never would have left the school! She kept telling me she wasn't ready for anything to be put into the car! I finally just told her she had wasted three days doing nothing and I HAD to get home to go back to work, so I was loading the car whether she was "ready" or not! She did everything she could to stop me from taking anything from the room except lock me out of her room! I got some of her friends to help load the car and help me drag her out of the building and into the car! (I'm sure I'd have the same amount of trouble if we had to move from this house into another one, too.) In your case, though, it sounds more like the guy has just overloaded himself with classes and is trying to get too many credits with the least amount of work/class attendance as he can manage. If his grade depends on him attending your class, then flunk him and be done with it. If it doesn't, then I agree, do what you are doing and see if he passes the test when it is not exactly like the other tests. If he passes it, fine. If he doesn't then he cheated on the second one and tried to cheat on that one, as well. I honestly hope he is having someone record the lectures and is studying them in his room later, like Pretty did to graduate. (In Pretty's case, several of the Professors checked to make sure she was really listening to the lectures and not cheating, too. You can't blame them for that. I would have been suspicious, too.) Best of luck to him!

Not sure how kids do it these days. It might've been cheating but I once bought a set of previous exams to use as a study guide for the final exam in a historical geology class I had to pass. I attended every class and took the exams and went into the final with a D average; I made an A on the final, giving me a C for the course. I'd tried earlier to drop the class but the prof, an Asian man who hardly spoke English, wouldn't let me drop. And by "hardly spoke English" I mean I could catch every fifth word or so, this complicated by his tendency to lapse into long barely understandable personal stories. Every student's nightmare. This probably relates in no way to your student's situation.

Definitely sounds like cheating @TheHorse . My question to him would be, "So you get into San Francisco State, do you plan on not showing up for classes there too? "And if so, how long do you think it will be before you are thrown out?" Your idea for the next test is perfect.

I never cheated, but they probably are using technology for it.

How are you going to pass a class if you don't show up? You can ask different questions on the exam so other students don't share questions and answers with others.

Let us know what you discover -- if he is guilty as charged.

I think they use their smartphones and have others text them the answers, or go to a site where they can get the answers. When I took statistics, I studied from old exams, and the tests we had were changed very little from the old test...Was it as good as having the answers?...almost! I did understand the material to a degree, but having those old tests sure helped!

Cheaters never win and class winners do not cheat.

Firstly, cheaters make it really tough for people who work hard to do well. How unfair is that. I suspect he could have found a previous version of your test online. It took me 8 years to complete college, for many reasons. However, I finished HONESTly. One prof even discriminated against me bc of my disability. I failed a class because of my disability. I took the same class again with a different prof. I earned an A Please let us know what happened.

I've absolutely no idea, but if he is a cheat I hope you catch him. But perhaps he was studying at home?

Just rude in his behavior. But don't judge him until you got it.

Oh yeah, my students text each other the message in the classroom and discretely (and sometimes openly) read their phone screens. Phones are not banned in the class rooms and secondly the supervisor (not ourselves) are sleeping or just don't care to be vigilant. Burnout they say.