A step towards genders equality
By topffer
@topffer (42156)
France
June 21, 2017 3:46am CST
Each time we have a cold or a heat wave, we see some new protests in France. Yesterday was the day of glory for buses and trams drivers in Nantes. Since 2013 they claim the right to wear shorts or bermuda shorts during heat waves, but their employer refuses it. Yesterday several drivers from the same professional union came to work with a skirt, skirts being authorized to drive a bus. Well, usually, people have to go to work with decent clothes, and it is not sure that a man wearing a skirt is decent, but they tell that nobody can see what they are wearing when they are sat, and that authorizing skirts and not shorts for a bus driver is discriminating between genders. Difficult to tell what will be the next move of their direction, to authorize shorts or to forbid skirts.
Kudos, guys, you are making a sacrifice for a worthwhile cause.
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@Inlemay (17713)
• South Africa
22 Jun 17
ha ha ha those skirts look very strange. luckily the boys have the legs for them - My friend in Belgium says they has dying of the heat at the moment - Why cant the Europeans just enjoy the hot weather for the week? really if you want to feel hot - come down to SA and feel 41*C on a mild day. Our winters have 25*C which is cold to us.
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@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 17
There way of protest seems interesting. Hope they are able to get their demands fulfilled.
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@dpk262006 (58676)
• Delhi, India
21 Jun 17
@topffer Yes, at least general public become aware of their demand and it does not matter whether they would succeed in their motive or not but they are trying.
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
21 Jun 17
I thought the question is, to authorized shorts or no shorts (just kidding)
Talking about men in skirts, I can't imagine men wearing skirts here in my country ( I mean real men and not the other kind of men).
Men wearing skirts in Europe looks fine, maybe because it's a traditional outfit.
But, what if the international fashion world will come up with skirts for men, will it be a hit?
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@jaiho2009 (39141)
• Philippines
21 Jun 17
@topffer At least they still have option for a fresher outfit
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@topffer (42156)
• France
21 Jun 17
@jaiho2009 I doubt that they will use this option often.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
21 Jun 17
A skirt is not a traditional cloth for a man in France, but due to our laws against discrimination, if skirts are authorized in a company, the company cannot forbid to a man to wear a skirt. It was a smart way to make people aware of their wish to wear shorts.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
23 Jun 17
That´s right.
Men in Scotland can wear kilts and that is a kind of skirt too.
I think that they should be allowed to wear shorts as long as they are not too short say about knee length?
It does get really hot in a bus too so I hope they get listened to.
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@lovinangelsinstead21 (36850)
• Pamplona, Spain
23 Jun 17
@topffer
Who the men or the women?
Because a girl here got fired for wearing a skirt at her Job.
Seems like we cannot win sometimes.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
24 Jun 17
@lovinangelsinstead21 In France an employer cannot discriminate : if skirts are authorized in a company they are authorized for both genders... at least in theory.
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@much2say (55655)
• Los Angeles, California
1 Jul 17
Hmmm, that is a good design dilemma - I wonder if there is any way to fashion a skirt to make it look more masculine? A zillion dollar idea ? Can a kilt possibly be improved (kilts seem to be hot to me)?
Well heck . . . if rules are rules and the rules do not state that a man cannot wear skirts . . . then they did not do anything wrong . It's not about the fashion anyway - they just want to cool down!
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@prashu228 (37524)
• India
21 Jun 17
Lol..i don't think we get gender equality if men wear women s dresses.... well it's a good step if it works
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@JESSY3236 (19942)
• United States
23 Jun 17
lol They should carry bagpipes with them.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
21 Jun 17
Shorts are rarely admitted in a working environment in France, but they can wear skirts if they want, due to our laws against discrimination. It was not a bad idea to make people aware of their desideratum to be allowed to wear shorts, but I doubt that they will obtain it : I do not know any city where bus drivers are allowed to wear shorts.
@KrauseHome (36448)
• United States
21 Jun 17
Interesting. .. Even men having to wear a skirt to drive a bus. Or a Kilt as many call them. But considering this is the dress code this is interesting. I guess they have no option and opinions on this. Don't think it would ever even be an option here in the US
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@Fleura (30404)
• United Kingdom
21 Jun 17
I can't understand why nowadays organisations of all sorts seem to be going to ridiculous lengths to make life comfortable and easy for transsexuals and all sorts of other minorities so why can't they allow what is already acceptable men's attire in many places (such as a kilt or kurta) for ordinary men? It does seem to be blatant discrimination especially when women are allowed to wear trousers or to have the choice.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
21 Jun 17
It is true somewhere : they can wear a skirt, but not shorts. Like I told you in another comment, shorts are usually not authorized during working hours in France. It is most of the time not authorized for building workers even with the 30° C+ we have actually, for supposed security reasons. Each company has a dressing code, and I do not know any city where shorts are authorized for bus drivers, but I may be wrong.
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@topffer (42156)
• France
21 Jun 17
According to our laws their employer cannot forbid them to wear a skirt if skirts are authorized in the company, but I doubt that they would wear one every day. Anyway it was a smart idea to make people aware of their desideratum to wear shorts.
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