800 Billion

@just4him (317385)
Green Bay, Wisconsin
June 23, 2017 6:40am CST
I'm on Medicaid. I'm one of this country's poor. I saw a movie many years ago starring my favorite actor, Charlton Heston. It was not a favorite movie. In fact it caused me to lose my appetite. The name of it was Soylent Green. Is our society moving in that direction that we consider old people and those who can't afford to live to walk into hospitals and be euthanized and our bodies turned into food? I saw the pictures of protests where police were taking people out of a Senator's office because he stands by this bill to cut Medicaid. It's telling me that we have no right to live because we need Medicaid. It's telling me that if we need some kind of medical procedure we're going to be placed on a list, a list that we might never get to the top of before we die because there aren't any funds. What's next? I have heard rumblings about Social Security too. Is that also going to be taken away from us? Then what? Not everyone was born with people in their lives to tell them and show them how to manage their money so they didn't need to rely on Social Security as their only means of income in their later years. Not everyone has the smarts necessary to get the good jobs that will allow them to have a good retirement. I don't often write a political post. I'm not pointing my finger at any one person because quite frankly this kind of talk has been going on since I was in grade school. They tried to frighten us then that Social Security wouldn't be around when we retired. It's good to know it still is, but I wonder for how much longer. Is Congress really going to allow Americans to die because they can't afford health insurance? Because they are too poor to live? It reminds me of Charles Dickens story - A Christmas Carol. Scrooge told the two gentlemen who wanted him to donate money to charity that the poor people should just die and decrease the surplus of the earth. Has Congress become Scrooge? Are we going to just sit back and tell poor people everywhere they don't have the right to live because they are poor? $800 Billion is proposed to cut Medicaid over the next decade. Not all at once, but gradually. Maybe people really don't matter and all the save the _________ societies have it right. We might as well save our animals and fish, trees and whatever, because nobody is interested in saving people. Okay, now I've had my say on this matter. The only thing I don't want to see in comments is reference to our president. I see that and I will delete it. Thanks for reading.
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@silvermist (19702)
• India
23 Jun 17
I had seen that movie Soylent Green. You have asked so many relevant questions. Also,you have touched on a point which I had been thinking these days. " We might as well save our animals and fish, trees and whatever, because nobody is interested in saving people." (It does not matter that I am from a different country).
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jun 17
Thank you, and you're right it doesn't matter what country you are from, we all need good health care that will benefit the people.
@shaynas (5487)
• India
23 Jun 17
But saving the trees and animal is equally important...it's their world too.
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@silvermist (19702)
• India
23 Jun 17
@shaynas No body disagrees with saving the animals and trees.But humans need help and saving them is important too.
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@Kandae11 (55172)
23 Jun 17
People in most third world countries have always felt that America is the land of milk and honey.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jun 17
Yes they have, but though we do have a lot to offer, it seems like those in government are trying to take it away from us as well.
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@celticeagle (168595)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Jun 17
I have been harping on this sort of thing since before Mr. Trump got into office. I certainly hope that we can get this man out of office before the rich just take over and we poor are on the streets. Soilent Green could be a way of the future if we don't. This was/is a great story and I am glad it made some people think. As things stand right now there are 5-7 senators who won't vote for it so we are in a holding pattern right now on that
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@celticeagle (168595)
• Boise, Idaho
24 Jun 17
@just4him .....Me too. But, he is just out for the rich. I hope they can impreach him or do something to get him out of office. But, then we will have Pence and he is not much either.
@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
24 Jun 17
I've seen some headlines indicating it might not pass. I hope not.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
24 Jun 17
@celticeagle I should delete this comment
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@tammys85 (30135)
• Baltimore, Maryland
25 Jun 17
I'm on Medicaid so this worries me. :(
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@tammys85 (30135)
• Baltimore, Maryland
28 Jun 17
@just4him So do I. :(
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
28 Jun 17
@tammys85 I read this morning or last night, that they are having trouble finding people to vote for it.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
25 Jun 17
I'm sure it does. I hope it doesn't pass.
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@LadyDuck (472160)
• Switzerland
23 Jun 17
I have seen "Soylent Green", every time I open a package and I say that food in our days look like plastic, my husband replies, be happy it's not Soylent Green. I have read about the Medicaid cut, this is very sad.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jun 17
Yes, it is sad. I agree, plastic food would remind a person about Soylent Green.
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• United States
23 Jun 17
Nothing is written in stone yet - he bill is not going to pass as it stands right now.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jun 17
I hope not.
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@BelleStarr (61101)
• United States
25 Jun 17
I think there should be healthcare for all but it has to be a plan that is also fair to all. Right now nothing is working right with the current system so keeping it isn't a good option either. I have no idea what they are going to do to make this right but something does need to be done. You are right, blaming this on either president is not right, Congress, now they are to blame and the insurance companies. I think both presidents were trying to do the right thing. Neither succeeded.
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@BelleStarr (61101)
• United States
26 Jun 17
@just4him But we all know, nothing is free. The money has to come from somewhere, that would be taxes.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
26 Jun 17
@BelleStarr Yes it would.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
25 Jun 17
I agree. Something has to be done to make it right, but knowing what will is a mystery. Maybe free healthcare. I could go for that.
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@jstory07 (140168)
• Roseburg, Oregon
26 Jun 17
I hope they do not take Medicaid away. I had it when I needed it for my children. A lot of children need the medical help and it is not right for anyone to go without the medical help that they need.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
26 Jun 17
I agree.
@DWDavis (25805)
• United States
23 Jun 17
I remember the movie Soylent Green. It was quite disturbing. The quote from Dickens has also crossed my mind in relation to the Senate Republicans' current healthcare bill, which I think should be called Republicare rather than Trumpcare because all Republicans share in the guilt of it's draconian nature.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jun 17
Good analogy.
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@marlina (154130)
• Canada
23 Jun 17
Seen that movie "Soylent Green". That was scary enough. I do not understand the American Health system at all.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jun 17
I do - It doesn't work. That's what the health care system is in America. Yes, Soylent Green was scary.
@Courtlynn (67080)
• United States
23 Jun 17
I agree with you. Its very sad and scary
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jun 17
Yes it is.
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@NJChicaa (120242)
• United States
23 Jun 17
why don't you want comments referring to Trump? He's part and parcel of this whole thing.
@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jun 17
Because people would rant on about how he is the reason for it and I don't believe that. We've had this problem a lot longer than he's been in office. I might not have voted for him, but I will not condemn him.
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@shaynas (5487)
• India
23 Jun 17
There are always this kind of people in society who feel themselves superior just because they are in a better position. But again, we have second type pf people too who knows everyone's worth and know that we are not anyone to say someone to die. I hope all stays well :)
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Jun 17
Thank you. I hope so too.
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@shaynas (5487)
• India
23 Jun 17
@just4him keep the faith alive :-)
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• United States
24 Jun 17
I remember a statement made in the first book of Will Durant's History of Civilization series that historically it has been the choice of the strong to to use their strength make the weak do the work while they (the strong) reap the benefits, and civilizations then decay and fall when too many able-bodied people insist on being consumers rather than producers and the coercible weak become too weak (or leave the system they have no benefit in) to keep doing the work for them. As appalling as that statement is, there does seem to be some truth in it, so while I'd like to hold out the hope that our own society can choose to do differently, I don't see much evidence that it will. So personally I've taken up putting my efforts into helping to strengthen the weak to level the playing field for them a bit more rather than trying to fight the current system of powers that be.
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@just4him (317385)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
24 Jun 17
That's great. I can see how that statement makes a vicious circle.