Fed up with false homeless people

@Asylum (47893)
Manchester, England
January 5, 2018 11:29am CST
Wherever I go there is always a great deal of people begging for money and claiming to be homeless. I know for a fact that the majority of them are not homeless and this really annoys me. I can fully understand a genuinely homeless person begging and would willingly help such people, but these days it is almost impossible to know who is genuine. I personally know a couple of people who live in council flats paid for by the council and get social security payments every fortnight, yet they spend hours in the city centre every day begging on the streets. Apart from the obvious problem of these people pestering others in the town, it makes life difficult for those in genuine need. Most people will class the genuine ones as the same and not help because they hate being conned.
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@vandana7 (100127)
• India
5 Jan 18
You hit the nail on its head. It is irritating to say the least when people who should not be begging beg. Worst is, even well off folks doing it. When we say that is wrong - they say it is a joke.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Jan 18
@vandana7 The main problem is that many of these beggars have no pride or sense of morality. All that they care about is to make easy money without having to work for it.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Jan 18
Some of them are probably making more money than the people they are begging from.
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@vandana7 (100127)
• India
5 Jan 18
@Asylum When there is no self respect, they don't deserve any I feel. There are rules to beg. a. We don't beg when we have a roof over our heads, rented or otherwise, and an opportunity to earn for food, shelter, clothing and medicines. b. We don't beg from people younger than us as they could not have earned much by that age, when compared to us. Younger ones are always given because their lives would be tougher by the time they reach our age. c. We don't beg from people older than us because they haven't much earning period ahead of them to make up for loss which they would sustain by giving to people like us. d. We don't beg from people who are financially lower than us; e. We don't beg from people who are socially lower than us. That is how it should be. When we limit our begging to a section of society, we would know that it is hard to get help, so we start helping ourselves and only in extreme situations we spread our hands. If we think begging from anybody and everybody is ok, then the need to work disappears because the set who can help us is large, and if each one gives us even small amount, we can live without working. That is precisely why it is wrong. Nobody should get away without working - be it drunkard, or gambler, or idler. Only people who are sick and cannot work should be allowed to contravene those conditions. Others better get their act together.
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@much2say (55318)
• Los Angeles, California
5 Jan 18
It is difficult to differentiate. There are folks who are sunburned to a crisp sleeping on cardboard on the sidewalk to well dressed families holding up signs claiming they are homeless . . . and then there are college age kids that look like they go to college and are holding their hands out for some spare change. Homelessness is a huge problem here, but so is being scammed . . . yes, the scammers are ruining it for those who are truly in need.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Jan 18
Exactly because despite wanting to help the genuinely needy we are reluctant to risk being taken advantage of.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
6 Jan 18
I help anyone who needs it when I can. God cares about the givers heart, and the ones lying have their own cross to deal with. When I'm standing before the Father one day I want to hear well done my child and faithful servant.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
I would happily help anyone in genuine need, but certainly not the liars and cheats and simply beg rather than work. sadly it is difficult to know who is genuine, so I tend to refuse everyone.
@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
@LovingMyBabies I am unlikely to need such assistance because I worked all my life. I own my house and now draw a pension, so I am not in any financial need. Of course I do understand what you mean, but I doubt whether I would be able to beg.
• Valdosta, Georgia
6 Jan 18
@Asylum I pray if you ever need financial help someone does not refuse you for the same reason. That would be awful. =(
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@LadyDuck (470823)
• Switzerland
6 Jan 18
I fully agree with you Barry, they are cheaters and they make the life or those really in need harder. I was in the centre of Milan yesterday to sign some papers, I cannot say how many people asked for money pretending they were homeless.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
There are people in genuine need, but sadly there are far more false beggars simply interested in easy money.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
@MALUSE Money for travel is a common ploy here.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
6 Jan 18
I remember many young people asking for money when I was in Italy the last time because they had no money for a train ticket to go home to their families - or so they said.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
5 Jan 18
If you want to be sure that your money is used correctly for the needy, you can give to charity, not to individuals.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Jan 18
A valid point, but even then many charities have high overheads and only a fraction of the money reaches the intended target.
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@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
5 Jan 18
@Asylum That's right, but I think you can find a trustworthy one. For example, if you give money to a local soup kitchen, you may not make a mistake.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Jan 18
@MALUSE That does sound like a worthwhile alternative.
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@garymarsh6 (23404)
• United Kingdom
6 Jan 18
There was a programme a couple of years ago which showed some guy who drove down to the outskirts of London changed into dirty clothes then caught the tube into London to spend the day begging. He was collecting in the region of £500 quid a day! Very lucrative and tax free of course. London is full of beggers pickpockets and fraudsters. The police move them on but five to ten minutes later they are back. I think they should be rounded up and those who needed it deported! Unfortunately there are too many lily livered liberals in the UK for it to happen!
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
I agree completely and as you infer a great many of them are immigrants. This is such easy money that most of them would never consider taking a job because the wages would seem poor in comparison.
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@vandana7 (100127)
• India
7 Jan 18
You all imported the techniques from India. I have known some people from other cities coming here and begging. The lady I caught doing that had three mansions in her town. Begging should simply be criminalized. Anybody begging should be made to clean the public toilets. Simple! Others, let them take help from government.
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@garymarsh6 (23404)
• United Kingdom
7 Jan 18
@vandana7 We saw one lady with a baby in arms follow us around the sites in Delhi. She jumped into a taxi and it followed our tour bus!
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@m_audrey6788 (58472)
• Germany
6 Jan 18
I`m really not sure about if those homeless people are pretending but maybe they had some sort of breakdowns as I`ve seen people like that around sitting around begging for money but you can see that they have some psychological problems with themselves
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
Such genuine people do exist and should be helped, but I am more concerned with the vast amount of non genuine beggars.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
@m_audrey6788 The lack of interest from governments is one of the main problems.
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• Germany
6 Jan 18
@Asylum I believe you`re right and I hope the government will do something about it
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• United States
6 Jan 18
we have them here too.they get a disability check for one thing or another,blow it all and then panhandle the rest of the month.some of them threaten you too if you tell them no.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
I have seen some asking for money from women in a rather intimidating manner, which always infuriates me. In such cases I always intervene angrily and ensure that they go away.
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@dodo19 (47315)
• Beaconsfield, Quebec
6 Jan 18
It's kind of sad that people do this. If you are not homeless, then you shouldn't be begging on the street.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
For many it is preferable to working and constitutes easy money.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
@dodo19 Unfortunately it seems to be for a lot of people.
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@dodo19 (47315)
• Beaconsfield, Quebec
6 Jan 18
@Asylum I guess it might be for some.
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@excellence7 (3655)
• Mauritius
5 Jan 18
This is true in Prague too. The city is filled with beggars, genuine and fake. On most occasions, I do not give money to beggars, regardless of their needs, because I do not wish to encourage the begging culture. But when I do give, then your point is totally valid, I will not be able to filter out those who are fake.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Jan 18
I have seen a few people begging in Prague, but not a great number.
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@celticeagle (165962)
• Boise, Idaho
6 Jan 18
One year I saw a guy out begging that had a better coat on than I did. Here we are asked by our governor not to give them any money. There are many programs set up for these people and if they don't utilize them they go away.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
This seems to be a global problem.
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@celticeagle (165962)
• Boise, Idaho
6 Jan 18
@Asylum ....Yes, it does.
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@allknowing (135331)
• India
5 Jan 18
Strange that those who have a roof above their heads do not think begging to be a demeaning thing,
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Jan 18
I absolutely agree, but sadly quite a few do not care at all.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
@allknowing It is, but not uncommon.
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@allknowing (135331)
• India
5 Jan 18
@Asylum Trading dignity for money - very sad.
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• United States
5 Jan 18
Some people really know how to work the system. Panhandling is tax free money It does make it bad for those genuinely in need
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@saritflor (3914)
• Hungary
5 Jan 18
Maybe they might not be really homeless people but I believe no one will go out just like that and ask money if there wasn't a real or painful story behind it. I hate money btw.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Jan 18
I have to disagree because many are just interested in easy money rather than working.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
5 Jan 18
@Icydoll It really annoys me to see someone sat on the streets in winter with a dog. The sight of a dog outside all day in the severe winter elicits simpathy and generates more money, but it's an appalling way to treat an innocent animal.
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@Icydoll (36717)
• India
5 Jan 18
@Asylum I agree with you.. just carrying a child and they ask for money we don't even know that's her child or other.the person with some disabilities are really working hard to survive but person having all organs working properly ask for money.i don't believe in this kind of people.
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• China
6 Jan 18
Yes,it is difficult to tell them from genuinely homeless people.People tend to take a part for the whole and see all beggars as ones in disguise.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
Yes, this is a real problem.
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@sjvg1976 (41277)
• Delhi, India
6 Jan 18
In Delhi one may find such people very frequently near temples and they do come at home to beg. I remember they used to ring door bell to ask them to beg and used to be so irritating when you will say no to them. It seems it's their profession they have made it because it's very easy way to get some money.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
I would be very hostile to anyone calling at my home to beg.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
@sjvg1976 So would I if they called at my home.
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@sjvg1976 (41277)
• Delhi, India
6 Jan 18
@Asylum my father used to shout on them if they ring bell in his presence . He dislikes them very strongly.
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@tzwrites (4835)
• Romania
6 Jan 18
It's a big problem all over Europe. There are so many fake beggars. I've seen a few who drive a car downtown, park it, then they go beg
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
Yes, it has actually reached this level now.
@Kandae11 (54981)
6 Jan 18
I heard of a beggar who had several bank accounts.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
That would not surprise me.
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• Northampton, England
6 Jan 18
Obviously the Tories have created a few but they never have a local accent
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
6 Jan 18
Genuine homeless have existed as long as I can remember, but there are far more that are not homeless who beg daily for an easy living.
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@gaianoor (1117)
• Tirana, Albania
6 Jan 18
I feel when i see old people and children going around asking for money. But i also hate when young people go around the city asking money.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Jan 18
We all hate to see people in genuine need.
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@Asylum (47893)
• Manchester, England
7 Jan 18
@gaianoor This is s really widespread problem now.
@gaianoor (1117)
• Tirana, Albania
7 Jan 18
@Asylum around my city it happens all day to see young girls and boys to come near the car to ask for money. Usually i don`t give them nothing just tell them that they need to start working on their self. Going out in the street it`s the easiest thing to do.
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