Threshold for not being nice, and beyond...

@vandana7 (100303)
India
January 26, 2018 9:23am CST
This is my second post today on "not being nice" always ..I don't know what got into me to be the devil's advocate but here I am. So well, what is your threshold to say...somebody borrows monies from you, makes you run about for them, and eventually you bombard (I do). Just asking would you be inclined to take it in your stride, if what is due to you is not given to you, would you stand up for it, are all such battles worth it, do you have problems in asking from people whom you know well, do you have problems in refusing people whom you know well, and would you be angry if they did not return the monies or delayed the monies, and would you yell at them, and would you follow up with them, and finally WHEN WOULD IT BE NICE AND WHEN WOULD IT NOT BE NICE. LOL
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@Kandae11 (55040)
26 Jan 18
There is a saying - "never a borrower or a lender be" - of course one can never say never. I would lend to someone in need - if I had it. I won't lend to someone who is already well off and wants the money for something which I think is unnecessary - I would feel like I am being used. If the borrower is in a position to repay - he or she will have to, I won't just let it go.
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
26 Jan 18
My attitude. In this case, I did not lend, my father did. He loaned my money so to speak. Broke a few plates demanding monies from me, and I gave in since he is an old man and I did not want to lose him to some stroke. The guy was to return in two months, he did not return in three years. Dad was following up everyday and not getting any reply. Then I saw his picture in whatsup in expensive restaurant. Showed dad, this is the man you were pitying. Dad said you follow up. Within a couple of months I have streamlined everything. Now the guy is terrified of me. lol. But then we have to be nasty with shrewd ones.
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@Kandae11 (55040)
26 Jan 18
@vandana7 Don't give him any peace until you get it.
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
26 Jan 18
@Kandae11 Yeah..he is repaying..slowly but surely. He has realized I can easily take him to the court and won't hesitate in exercising those rights. Even called up his bank. He has been quietly paying since then. If the banker realizes he has been borrowing outside, bank will not loan monies to him. So he will repay my monies alright. lol
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@prashu228 (37524)
• India
26 Jan 18
we cannot yell at them if we know them from years , atleast thats what is happening with us. There is one family ,they borrowed some money while constructing their house , so my mother out of all the love , gave some 25thousand without any interest , They said they will return in six months , its been some two years but no money till now, when ever my mother go to their house they say we are returning soon but did not happen till now. The boys father said if his son is not giving he is going to return it as he applied for some loan , and the sisters say they will , but none of them did anything till now. I literally loose my patience when i hear all the stories they say, but cannot say anything ..
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
26 Jan 18
Here are my rules that I suggest you follow... If you lend in the above said manner, always pay by check. Take a promissory note and a check for the principle, and checks for interest for the period. Never...I REPEAT never give monies for reasons like that as interest free loan. The same party will borrow n number of times and will become lifetime headache. Not only they, their children will also do that. Always quote high interest so that people who are borrowing decide against it. If they borrow make sure that checks and promissory notes and interest checks are with you. Do not let them fill the dates on the checks or even amounts as checks can be dishonored and dishonor charges are high. Finally, remember promissory note validity is only 3 years from the date of execution. Therefore, renew it before the validity expires. In the present scenario, I am afraid I cannot help. I can only prevent future problems. Wait a second, was the money given in check? How old is your mom?
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@prashu228 (37524)
• India
27 Jan 18
@vandana7 No not in check, its just given to help them in time of need as we know them from years, no check, no notes, no interest nothing.
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
27 Jan 18
@prashu228 Then you can kiss it goodbye.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
26 Jan 18
My dad always told us kids never to borrow money from friends nor let them borrow from us so I don't do either. However I do have a friend who allowed me to use her car to go back and forth to work while mine was being repaired, she thought it was no big deal but to me that was a huge deal. I have no idea how I can ever repay her but I try.
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
26 Jan 18
Oh I perfectly agree with that feeling of obligation. That is why I try to return it immediately. One advantage is we don't have to remember small obligations, which can be quite a few out here. Second advantage is, we can be honest friends instead of saying yes she is right when she is wrong.
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@rebelann (112875)
• El Paso, Texas
26 Jan 18
Oh yeah, that's true @vandana7 she actually offered to let me borrow her car, the idea hadn't even crossed my mind but I am grateful she did. I don't know how to repay that kind of kindness, I've tried on various occasions just to buy things for her and her hubby but she keeps trying to pay me which I keep telling her no and she hates to listen, stubborn old woman ...... yeah, I can say that even though she is younger than I.
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@jstory07 (139725)
• Roseburg, Oregon
27 Jan 18
I do not loan people money. If they really need something I will buy it for them.
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
27 Jan 18
How can you buy entire cancer treatment for a househelp's grandson? Blink. Or a laundry woman's daughter's dowry...lol. Somethings cannot be avoided out here because there is no social security to fall back upon.
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@Srbageldog (7716)
• United States
27 Jan 18
I don't loan money to anyone but family (and by family I mean my siblings.) But, even then I know that there's a chance I won't ever be repaid. I usually just let it go because it's not worth a family rift, but, if it was a large amount that they owed, it would probably be a different matter.
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
28 Jan 18
Yes...that happens, does it not? It is to stop such borrowings I opted for home loans.
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@fly802 (1383)
27 Jan 18
I haven't been in that problem because whatever happens I never like to lend money.I would prefer starving than lending money.
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@ptrikha_2 (46976)
• India
4 Feb 18
@vandana7 let us see if the new budget announcement regarding healthcare insurance for people below a threshold makes any difference?
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@ptrikha_2 (46976)
• India
5 Feb 18
@vandana7 well yes, for many of lower classes, family planning is an alien concept. Kids don't generally study beyond 10th and girls are discriminated and many girls are not even 8th pass. It's a very sorry state and state and central governments appease them for votes.
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
28 Jan 18
Lending is not always for earning from it. lol. Sometimes some favor is taken or anticipated. For example I am old and might die. I would need somebody to take my parent to hospital help him with his insurances and hospital bills. We have no medicare and social security forcing us to resort to a different way.
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26 Jan 18
I am not one to lend a lot of money so I don't find myself worried about such a thing. But when I have lent money I would always ask when I should expect repayment. If they do not keep their word, than I don't ask again. If this person cared enough about our friendship, they would come to me and explain if there was a problem. There is a scene in a movie that I thought described this scenario perfectly where a kid borrows $20 from another kid and the wiser older man says something to the effect ... that it's better you found out now about this person's character you lent the money to. It only cost you $20 to get rid of this guy.
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@vandana7 (100303)
• India
26 Jan 18
That is how I see it too! Person should be judged with small amounts, and that amount should never be increased even after knowing the honest or dishonest nature of the person.
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