You only have to lack humanity to kill

We all know that we react differently when we panic. We all know that when we are hungry or thirsty, we would be reacting differently. So stress relating to finances, social situation, loss of loved ones, survival etc., can lead to people wanting to be free from it all at some point. That is understandable. But if it can be traced down to genetics, then we need to rework the system perhaps. I added a few links that suggest it may be true.

@LadyDuck Please do, they are under Sanjeev's box.

@vandana7 I am checking your links and going to research more about this.

That is traditional outlook. But if we go scientifically, the possibility of that gene or lack of it does exist. Especially if you consider that there are people who never fall in love or feel the need to have babies. That is just part and parcel of the genetic make up I think. If you are interested in reading more about it, I have furnished three more links under Sanjeev's box. At first I too found it absurd and felt that if that excuse is allowed, there simply can't be any crime that gets punished. So we would need a way to specifically identify that genetic make up then identify the person in some way so that others become wary of it, or offer external supplements to cure such needs. Till then existing system of punishing would have to do. But the more I think of it, I feel I am becoming open to the possibility.

@BloggerDi I think we will sooner or later manage to come up with having genetic profiles of people, even if they are really long and hard to remember. Storage would be an issue, but may be we will manage that. Once that happens, things such as this will become the next to be studied, confirmed, and cured.

@vandana7 I will look up the links. I think a genetic issue is a possibility. It's a very complicated study I'm sure, but all theories should be explored! Maybe innocent lives can be spared if more is understood about killers like Gibson.

I agree with you there has been a case in the Indian Criminal history where a man by name Raman Raghav was arrested for serial killings he confessed that he hated women and people visiting women in red-light area as he spend his early life in that area! May be judges at that time hardly had any idea about genetic disposition and he was prosecuted thinking that he had a reason to kill which was o fcourse unjustifiable!

There seems to be more evidence to suggest so. :( I read about it almost 7 to 10 years ago. And I was like whattttt of all the reasons. But that said, there are enough studies suggesting such predisposition. So how can we actually blame a person? Other links that indicate similar tendencies include... http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/do-your-genes-make-you-a-criminal-1572714.html and http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31714853 I believe bullies lack that MAOA gene. I also agree with that "criminals are a step back down evolutionary ladder" but I do not understand if we have evolved, why we go back, whatever be the circumstances. I thought evolution was like a door closed to previous characteristics.

Very interesting dear @vandana7 ! I need to go into details before making any comment! Thanks!

If you are interested in some interesting stuff on it, read the box of sanjeev. In that I have given two links that indicate that perhaps it has something to do with a gene, or lack of it.

@vandana7 I am going to read it.

I have furnished a couple of links in sanjeev's box, if you are interested. They were published in famous and what we all believe to be more reliable source of information like theguardian, bbc, and the independent. They do suggest such a thing is possible.

You of all people would know that an 8 month old baby girl was raped by her 28 year old cousin, and the Supreme Court sought severe powers from the parliament and the parliament refused. Our so called leaders are doing this to us. Wonder how they sleep in the night.

@vandana7 They're referring to adrenaline I believe. Oh Here's some interesting info

@jstory07 Exactly! What is the chemical that runs in the blood stream when the person is on that high needs to be identified ..the entire blood of "normal" person and this guy needs to be thoroughly studied. Then variation of food or other intake that can reduce that high needs to be identified.

@vandana7 This man is now in prison for the rest of his life. In a statement he said it gave him a high to kill men, women and even children.

It could be we did not have an opportunity or situation to be like that. But as mentioned in one of the links furnished under Sanjeev's box, there is a gene that is specifically absent.

@vandana7 Very interesting. Perhaps this explains why there are a handful of sociopaths in my family. (Although none have committed murder, that I'm aware of.)

@just4him No it never was. People with bad experiences unable to absorb it, reacting against society for not understanding and rescuing them, being punished for their eventual burst out. It never felt right Valerie.

That is traditional way Valerie. But with new evidences emerging, perhaps that way no longer seems right.

@vandana7 It never seemed right. I'm glad for the new technology in solving crimes.

As I told in one of my last response these people think they are the God dear dear @vandana7 !

@AKRao24 Tell me about it...my dad says he is god. lol

Even I have noticed that. Unreasonable is the word. They refuse to admit that they are wrong!

I on the other hand want to use him for studying what are physiological and other characteristics of such folks, what triggers that act, and so on and so forth.

@Hannihar We are not looking at him answering anything at all! We are asking to show him films along with people from different age groups, different genders, and take their urine, saliva, and blood samples when they see something happy, and when they see something cruel. Compare ratios of all ingredients with their normal ratios. And compare those of this man with those of others. The normal people can be asked what you felt. So we would know which compounds are present in the blood when a person is anxious other than of course, adrenalin and what is their ratio in normal person, and people who are like this. Then again, does this compound increase or decrease in ratio at different times. All such studies. We are letting go of our guinea pigs. There was a guy in Auschwitz who killed many and when he was asked after Nuremberg trials did he or not feel guilty, he'd asked does a rat catcher feel guilty for catching the rats? I felt brainwashing may be doing something similar to the brain. It is possible that sounds affect our brain in certain way making it easier to do brainwashing. Just some of my stupid thoughts.

@vandana7 vanny, you may not get the answers you are looking for from him.

Me too. In some ways, I believe I am emotionless.

So very true.

No...it is not neurological disorder. It is more serious than that. They are simply incapable of empathy.

@stapllotik Lack of empathy I feel cannot be solely due to neurotransmitters or absence of them. That should cause some blankness or confusion rather than lack of empathy. I believe there have to be specific genes that contribute to our types of emotions. There has to be evolved version when compared to the animals, more specifically animals like snake. I believe it may have some interlinking with fear so that killing may become the best way to conquer that fear. In the end it is all chemical reactions, so controlling it also can come through chemicals rather than social behavior training. Social behavioral training might help to rationalize put ourselves in others shoes and think. Other than that, there cannot be a way to control human behavior. It sounds fatalistic, and hopeless situation, and my thinking may be wrong. But it is a possibility.

@vandana7 s. That's bipolar disorder when you lacks empathy. Bipolar disorder, also called manic depression, is a mental disorder. The cause is unknown. Genetics and an imbalance of neurotransmitters that carry signals between brain cells offer strong clues ,that you are suffered from bipolar disorder.

Not yet I will go through them and revert back dear @vandana7 !

Thank you. :) I am glad you came here. Long ago, I read about a case in which the lawyer pleaded that his client was not guilty because he had predisposition to commit that kind of crime (murder). I thought that was absurd. If that plea is allowed, then others would say they have predisposition to commit crimes like rapes, or thefts. But over a period, when I read more, and came across more cases, somebody did mention that a gene that is present in evolved persons but not in others. Absence of that gene makes people behave like animals. I gave relevant links in Sanjeev's box..you must have gone through.

@vandana7 How much time it takes for a father to tell his son to respect girls and women? How much brain does it takes for a mother to tell her son or daughter to say that killing or abusing anyone- be it a boy/girl or a man/woman is wrong and unpardonable? How many of us will kill our own sons/daughters if we come to know that they have raped/killed/abused anyone? Are we courageous enough to tell that yes, we ourselves are not without flaws? Do we?

@vandana7 Yeah and we can endlessly go on discussing about the legal system, but we know how complicated it has been made by vested interests. But still I hope that one day will come, when true justice will be done, and mankind will be enlightened.

So true..