Can I Address You Sir/Ma'am Here In Mylot?
By Tokz
@ilocosboy (45156)
Philippines
September 9, 2018 4:05am CST
I know some of you won't. I have observed some really don't want to be called like that for a given reason.
It is welcome to some, and others may don't really care to be called 'sir' and 'ma'am/madam'.
In my country its so common you hear those words of respect everyday. Though I know, different countries and colors; different culture and tradition.
Yes, not only in classroom.
And yes again, not only to elderly people.
People often address people with ma'am/sir in office, fastfood chain, shopping malls, banks and even in the streets when two people are talking especially when they are workers.
And yes, it is overused words.
Maybe because, we Filipinos, are so magalang (courteous). Well, its in our tradition. That's why we have these words, ate/kuya for older siblings, tita/tito for uncles and aunties, apo (for us Ilocano), ninang/ninang for godparents, among others.
And now we adopt sir and maam as generic respect when talking with anyone.
Fellow members, do you think its just okay to address you sir and ma'am?
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19 responses
@owlwings (43910)
• Cambridge, England
9 Sep 18
In England we tend only to use 'sir' or 'madam' to someone to whom we owe (or ought to owe) some respect, for example, a customer, if we are working in a shop or a service industry, or a teacher or lecturer if we are in an educational context. It is actually used much less frequently now than it used to be and tends to sound a little insincere if it's used too often.
"Ma'am" is almost never used here, except when addressing the Queen (when it should be pronounced 'mahm' and NEVER 'mam'!).
I think that the tendency, in the West, at least, is to think of other people more as equals, unless occasion dictates otherwise, so terms of respect, such as 'Sir' and 'Madam' tend to be used less because they sound and feel insincere if used too often.
In a forum such as myLot, where one quite often does not know whether the person you are addressing is male or female, it is best to avoid using any such forms of address (and, especially 'dear', which I know is very common in India but sounds over-familiar and a little ridiculous to a Western ear).
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
@MALUSE it is not only in India, i believe, that uses "dear friend", but also in other Asian countries.
may i ask, if you won't mind, if you deleted your comments in a certain discussion here in this site? i read your comment this morning, until when i checked it his afternoon, and it is gone.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
Thanks that's clear.
Term 'ma'am' and 'sir' are borrowed from West but now oftenly spoken here. Then I observed these were seldom used here in mylot, then I remember a comment when a member doesn't want to be address like that.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
@MALUSE i read it here, this is the reason why I limit myself using 'dear' and 'ma'am/sir' in my comments. Though sometimes I do to Asian members.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
That you.
Yes, its natural for us to be always courteous. We are shy people and sometimes afraid to speak to foreigners but you can always hear them 'yes ma'am' when asked.
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@SIMPLYD (90721)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
@ilocosboy Here, I am addressed in different ways, specially to my close Filipino friends here. You can discover from my recent post how they address me. They usually make the longest thread of comments.
@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
I address my fellow Ilocanos here "kabsat" meaning brothers/sisters. We are many here.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
I found out, base by this discussion, not most of the westerners hated to be called by that, some are very much welcome, and now I know most of them.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
With Filipino members I'm sure to the majority it's no big deal but I cannot speak for the rest. For Asians ( mostly if not all) calling " friend " or "my friend " is acceptable.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
Yes, no problem at all to fellow Asians. Of course not all to western members.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
@Janet357 we have to live with it and live with them, everything goes in an international site.
@sunrisefan (28524)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
I remember my college days when our professors would also call us "Sir" or "Mister" or "Miss" or "Mrs." with respect. I particularly remember my History professor who always goes to the library like me to read the papers and in times when I get ahead of him with the day's papers, he would say "May I be the next, Mr. . . .?"
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
I think, for us Asian, its our customs to be always courteous and respectful.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
From Ilocos Sur kabsat, Ilocanos are here, look for the comment of @ridingbet below because she just mention some.
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@allknowing (137781)
• India
10 Sep 18
I do not think those words need to be used in a friends circle. We are friends here and so...............
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@allknowing (137781)
• India
10 Sep 18
@ilocosboy That is what I said. Friends should not be addressed thus
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
Oh not all my friend, some members will get offended when you call them ma'am and sir.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
Oh thank you. Actually I was always thinking if I can address you ma'am because some western members don't prefer so. Now its clear to me.
In here, its like unwritten rule to always show respect to seniors so we don't just address by name but we say "nana", "ale", "apo", "inang baket", lola, nanay, tita (all these terms are for women" among others.
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
we Ilocanos can call each other "kabsat", and i hope you won't mind my calling you that.
i have other "kabsats" (brother/sister) here and they are @Shavkat, @Brokenbee, and @Antonbunot
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@antonbunot (11093)
• Calgary, Alberta
9 Sep 18
In the west they address a person (they don't know) - - sir or ma'am. And since I know the name of our prime minister . . . I would address him (if ever I meet him) "Justin" - - - And if ever I meet President Duterte . . I am not going to address him - - Mr. President. . I would address him "Digong" hehehe. . . . Patay ako!
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@ridingbet (66854)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
@ilocosboy i try to avoid saying 'friend' to certain users here. but for us Pinoys, i also call a few with HIJO and/or HIJA.
@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
Oh I love it kabsat, always relate to it.
I just posted this to know who from western members who should I avoid to call them like that, and it helps.
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@Hannihar (130213)
• Israel
9 Sep 18
@ilocosboy
For the first time in a long time I heard someone call someone madam. I am not sure I like that. I prefer that people just call me Hanni here.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
Okay Hanni, that's clear on me. Of course calling by our name is the sweetest thing.
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@rachz_kisses (3838)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
Yes, I understand your point. But not all Filipinos wanted to be addressed as Ma'am or Sir. I have already encountered a lot. They said, they are not deserving to be called as such, especially in the provinces. They would prefer to be called Manang, Manong or ate, kuya...
I would prefer to be called by my name.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
Yes that's right. I asked the question because I once read some, if not many, of our western fellow members don't prefer to be address by that. Now it enlightens me, some want some don't.
Have you observed that we are not addressed by our name when we're in the province, only in few occasions.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
@rachz_kisses that's it my friend, the best reason why we address them ma'am and reason even those low rank workers, 1. to lighten up the mood, 2. Not to be rude to whom were not yet familiar yet.
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@rachz_kisses (3838)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
@ilocosboy When at work, we addressed as Ma'am or Sir to respect the seniority level of position. But for these past years, they are used to call co-workers at the same level of position, even those low-ranking files, just to enlighten the mood. Probably because we were taught at school that it is how to show respect.
And because we do not want to be rude, we simply address Ma'am or Sir to people we're not yet acquainted with... And that would change if the person himself wouid suggests he would prefer to called by his name.
@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
Oh my friend, there are members here don't prefer to be called like that. Some prefer by their name, especially our fellow members in west.
@Nickzter1331 (4229)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
,,,its ok... im.filipino too,. Hehe...
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@popciclecold (39510)
• United States
10 Sep 18
Well, we see it some here in my country. But it's beginning to fade.
@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
And we're adopted it here, commonly you can hear them not only in the schools and offices but even in the streets.
@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
Okay got it buddy, we can call each other by our account name.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
Through some discussions I've known some members don't want to be address like that, so I avoided also.
But through this discussion I've learned many of them (from west) said its okay for them. It helps
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@lovebuglena (44721)
• Staten Island, New York
9 Sep 18
I would not want to be called ma'am or madam or even miss/mrs. And I have to say it's a bit weird when someone uses the term "friend" in the comments when talking to me when we are not actually friends.
@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
Maybe with this discussion can enlighten whom should I address ma'am and sir, and of course when should to call them friend.
Thank you Lena.
@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
@MALUSE maybe we can, it just a matter of knowing whom to call "friend", ma'am and sir.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
12 Sep 18
@MALUSE relax. Okay its my fault using "we" instead of "i", I just usually using we. Stupid is strong word and I will never insinuate that especially to person older than me. I never use that word and will never will.
@freelancermariagrace (28714)
• Philippines
9 Sep 18
I have got no problems with that. Actually, it is a sign of courtesy.
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@ilocosboy (45156)
• Philippines
10 Sep 18
Yes, no problem with Asians and some Americans but not all, Grace. We ahould know whom to address it properly.