Balls to the Wall
By redhotpogo
@redhotpogo (4401)
United States
January 10, 2019 4:30pm CST
I support a US border wall. Here is why.
I want the sex trafficking of children over our border to stop. I want the flow of life ending drugs and weapons to stop. I want hiring of illegals by greedy businesses (which financially hurts minority citizens) to stop.
I mean how can you say you're fighting for gun control, and then refuse to do the one thing that would greatly diminish the chance of firearms that are being used to kill innocent people? Kids in schools.
How can you claim you're fighting for children's futures, but refuse to do the one thing that would keep children safe? How can you look the other way, and refuse to help children who are being used as sex slaves?
And tell me why you would call yourselves crusaders for minorities, but refuse to do the one thing that would save their communities. For every illegal hired that is a minority citizen that doesn't have a job. That can't feed their families. That is someone who will be forced to do desperate; illegal things, because their government couldn't be bothered to do the one thing that would put food on their tables.
I want to stop murders and rapists from being able to go in and out to attack again and again and again. I want to stop wasting $200 billion a year paying for all the problems that an open border causes.
Don't tell me about wasting money if you refuse to do the one thing that would save tax payers $200 billion a year.
I want to speed up the immigration process, and simplify the process for good people who want to immigrate legally, and make better lives for themselves. Open borders hurt immigrants more than anyone would even care to discuss.
And I don't just want these things for my fellow Americans, but also for the Good people of Mexico. That crime goes both ways. Rapists and murders from the US cross over into Mexico to terrorize women and children everyday. US drug dealers working with south American drug lords keep families enslaved, forcing them to produce their deadly toxins, and then forcing them to smuggle those drugs over the border. At the risk of imprisonment. At the risk of their lives.
Don't you dare tell me you support Mexicans, or other Southern peoples, but refuse to do the one thing that would protect them. The one thing that would make their lives better. There is nothing more racist than telling Mexican immigrants to vote for you, and then turning your head away from the problems that open borders cause in the Mexican(etc) communities on both sides of the border.
And I want legitimate asylum seekers to feel secure.
Don't go on TV running your mouth about how much you're helping asylum seekers, while refusing to do the one thing that would keep them safe. If I were someone trying to escape a government that wanted me dead I sure wouldn't like the idea of an open border that people could easily move in and out of.
Stop saying that walls don't work. They do. They've been proven to be the most effective method of deterring invaders over thousands of years. Even today they are still the most effective method of doing so. But don't take my word for it. Ask China. Ask Israel. Ask the citizens of Vatican City. Ask Berliners.
Ask banks, businesses, prisons, or anyone that owns a house.
Don't tell me you care about national security, while you refuse to do the one thing that has been proven to be the most effective at securing people and property.
Building the wall is the humane thing to do.
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7 responses
@Kasjnak (4489)
• Romania
10 Jan 19
Interesting. But no, no wall will do any good, it only makes people feel like caged animals. And even when you have honest reasons, you should think it through. It's a Pandora's box, today you accept this, tomorrow it will be easier to accept another restrictive measure and then another one and so on. In the end you trade liberty for security. But that security is provided by the ones that have the power. Today they might be good people, but tomorrow there could be some psychos. And then you end up just like another animal in a cage. It may be big, but it's still a cage.
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@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
10 Jan 19
It's those open borders that will be used as an excuse to take your freedoms away, once the problems they cause have reached detrimental levels. It's those open borders that will give government an excuse to take everything you own.
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@andriaperry (116936)
• Anniston, Alabama
11 Jan 19
How are they caged? they have a huge country to live in not 6 x 8 cell. Having people live in the country they were born and raised, their mother, father, grandparents etc, have always lived? How is that caged?
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@Kasjnak (4489)
• Romania
11 Jan 19
@redhotpogo yes, those open borders can be difficult to manage and that's why they use them as an excuse for building the wall. The problem is, this takes away a small piece of liberty from everyone. Then who knows? They can say the illegal immigrants found other ways to deceive the border patrol and to counter that, the authorities have to impose a tighter security check on everyone. And so on and so on, little by little they take away your freedom and you wouldn't even realise it
@josie_ (10034)
• Philippines
10 Jan 19
There are many things you said which I do not agree with. One of which is about the effectiveness of a wall. The "Great Wall of China" didn't stop the Mongol invasion of China that establish the Yuan dynasty nor the Manchurian invasion that became the Qing dynasty. The Maginot line consisting of concrete fortification and obstacles also didn't stop Hitler's blitzkrieg into France.
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@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
10 Jan 19
You're comparing military invasions to people. If a military force came up on anyone's border a wall would not stop them. That's what a well armed military plus technology is for. A wall would not stop a force like that, but they sure gave their invaders one hell of a time getting through.
@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
10 Jan 19
"Ask the citizens of Vatican City." Please elaborate. Is the Pope afraid of the cardinals, bishops and priests defecting to Italy or is he afraid of Italians jumping over the wall seeking asylum in the Vatican?
I've also got problems with the wall in Berlin. Where do you see parallels between the wall in a city dividing the same people and a wall between two countries with different peoples, languages, customs, etc.? Who wanted to 'invade' whom in the case of Berlin?
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
10 Jan 19
It's not about what the walls were used for. It's about their effectiveness.
@MALUSE (69373)
• Germany
10 Jan 19
@redhotpogo I've understood this but the question remains: in what way is the wall in the Vatican effective? I'd really like to know. You can't talk about effectiveness without naming the problem. Who wants in, who wants out? If there is no answer, the example is futile.
You've also not answered my question regarding the parallels between Berlin and the USA/Mexiko. I don't know if you know how many people escaped to West Germany 'despite' the wall.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
10 Jan 19
@MALUSE It's a bit off topic, but sure. Whatever entertains you, eh?
The wall around Vatican city protects the citizens of Vatican city from people that want to harm them. That one is just common sense.
Did people escape over the Berlin Wall? Sure. Some did. It was nowhere near the amount of people that it stopped. Not even close. It was so effective that the entire world had to get involved, and tear it down.
Safety belts don't always protect people in crashes. And yet we have them. Laws don't prevent crimes. And yet we have them. There are plenty of things out there that we use every single day that are less effective than a wall is at providing security. But we still use them. Why? Because "they're not perfect" is a dumb excuse.
@redhotpogo (4401)
• United States
11 Jan 19
No, but I do live in a state that is overrun with illegals. It's been a serious problem for well over a decade, but nothing has ever been done about it.
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@Plethos (13581)
• United States
11 Jan 19
@redhotpogo - people are missing the point on as to why it has come down to a "wall".
much has changed over the years in mexico. it was never like this.
@porwest (90118)
• United States
10 Jan 19
@redhotpogo The sad thing is that ALL of these liberals have called for EXACTLY the same thing Trump has called for, and called it EXACTLY the same thing, although now they play dumb. I applaud Trump for being the first president to call them out. Trump called the situation a "Humanitarian crisis," and all of the liberal media and liberal politicians called it a "manufactured crisis." How manufactured was it when Obama called it the EXACT SAME THING? It's just silly when you get down to how liberals try to justify their arguments.
Former President Barack Obama noted that there is a crisis at the U.S. / Mexico border during remarks on border security and immigration from the White House...
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@andriaperry (116936)
• Anniston, Alabama
11 Jan 19
I agree. Until one of those in office living behind their walls walk in my shoes and seen what happened to me they will never understand.