How far does change go?

@AmbiePam (94566)
United States
February 20, 2020 4:22pm CST
I believe people can change. But do people who do certain things change? You might remember my past discussions about my sister's foster, Baby Dee. I was reading the news article on her bio mom who went to jail for abusing her. She admitted to punching the baby when Dee wouldn't stop crying. You might remember the judge gave Dee back to the bio mom, but the bio mom has not taken parenting classes or gotten a job. The final straw was the bio mom BITING Dee's face (and leaving teeth marks), and putting the bottom half of Dee is boiling water. Supposedly, this will terminate all rights of her as the birth mom. The bio father is still a factor, but he's pretty close to getting his parental rights terminated as well. I just don't think a woman should get her baby back if she has done so many bad things to the baby.
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@much2say (56522)
• Los Angeles, California
20 Feb 20
Oh my gosh - no baby should ever have to go through that - that's just awful! Parents need to be parents - and what the bio mom did was not even humane. It's doubtful that an abuser like that would change.
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@AmbiePam (94566)
• United States
21 Feb 20
She didn't change after her first child was taken away which should have been a clue for the courts.
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@much2say (56522)
• Los Angeles, California
21 Feb 20
@AmbiePam Oh yah, that's a big red flag right there. I don't understand court decisions at times - like how could they have missed that .
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@LindaOHio (183275)
• United States
20 Feb 20
This woman needs some serious help and should not be allowed any access to children.
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@DianneN (247184)
• United States
20 Feb 20
I remember your post about them. I’m sorry to say that they both will never change their behaviors. It’s impossible when one has such mental health problems. Baby Dee does not deserve that!
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@just4him (317721)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
21 Feb 20
Oh my gosh, no way should she ever be given her rights back and I hope the father doesn't either and your sister has the opportunity to adopt her.
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@AmbiePam (94566)
• United States
21 Feb 20
I hope so too. Thanks, Valerie.
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@just4him (317721)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
23 Feb 20
@AmbiePam You're welcome.
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@Courtlynn (67080)
• United States
21 Feb 20
Unfortunately many don't change. And unfortunately many get too msny chances. As my ex said the same thing about hurting my daughter, that he did it because she wouldn't stop crying. And now he's got 2-3 kids with my "half sister". Because they don't care enough to stop him and get him away from the kids like they're supposed to.
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@AmbiePam (94566)
• United States
21 Feb 20
Oh, good lord, that's terrible.
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@Courtlynn (67080)
• United States
21 Feb 20
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@CarolDM (203422)
• Nashville, Tennessee
20 Feb 20
I agree that the other's rights sometimes should be taken away. What a sad situation. People have to change on their own. Some never do.
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@snowy22315 (182886)
• United States
21 Feb 20
It's ridiculous. She is danger of killing that child. Anybody who seriously abuses a child probably should never get custody again. These courts need to air on the side of caution. How would they like to be a vulnerable child in the care of such a creature?
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@AmbiePam (94566)
• United States
21 Feb 20
They seem afraid of lawsuits by the natural born parents, which is crazy considering what some parents do.
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@UmiNoor (4522)
• Malaysia
29 Feb 20
Why do people like this have children when all they do is make their children suffer? It’s already so difficult to carry a child through 9 months of pregnancy and then the pain of childbirth is unbelievable. You would think that the mother would appreciate the baby after all the difficulties of getting the child into the world. But apparently not this mother. How can someone do these things to a cute little baby?
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@AmbiePam (94566)
• United States
29 Feb 20
I don't understand it either.
• Valdosta, Georgia
29 Feb 20
That's so horrible. =( However, I know for a fact God CAN change anyone if they surrender to Him. I'm not saying she will change, I'm just saying it could happen with God.
@LadyDuck (472253)
• Switzerland
21 Feb 20
I really hope that Baby Dee will not be given back to this monster mom, poor baby already suffered enough.
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@JudyEv (342670)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 Feb 20
Without some sort of help, this woman is not going to change her behaviour. She should not have been given a second chance.
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29 Feb 20
Sounds like the mom has a mental illness.
@BloggerDi (3113)
• United States
21 Feb 20
The baby's rights must be protected now! The birth mother should never have parental rights again. Enough is enough! If she is truly mentally ill, I can have some compassion for that, but it doesn't mean she should have access to her child or any other.
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@AmbiePam (94566)
• United States
21 Feb 20
She is mentally ill, but refuses to take her medication. She doesn't even try.
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• United States
21 Feb 20
I think people like that can change, regardless of what they've done. The key factor is that they have to want to change. It's not something that can be forced, because a person has to be committed to making that change and then maintaining the change even when things get tough. There are postpartum disorders that can make a woman behave in ways that she'd never consider otherwise if they go untreated. The problem with a lot of these situations is that the systems are stretched thin and the case workers are overworked. It seems like the ones who really suffer for it are the kids. They tend to lean towards reunification even if the parents aren't necessarily where the child needs them to be.
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@AmbiePam (94566)
• United States
21 Feb 20
I think God can change anyone, and I would be a hypocrite if I thought anything else. I think there are things you can't always trust a person with because of the severity of the act. Kind of like you can't be too careful.
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