Would love your honest opinion. Am I right or wrong to feel angry about this?
@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
Perth, Australia
March 12, 2021 5:26am CST
Some time ago I did a post about my friend who owes me money. I will try to quickly summarise it.
--February 2020, I lent her $100 as her dog was sick and I wanted to help. (say what you like, I wanted to help her / her dog as it's in my nature!)
--November 2020 I messaged her asking if I could start getting it back. Her reply was "I'm so sorry I haven't forgotten about you, I've not had any money but I have a cleaning job now and I can pay you this month."
--Not all long after that conversation, I saw her posting photos of her new puppy. That cost a bit over $2000.
--All of November went by and I received nothing back nor any messages to apologise or explain why.
--Her brother also made it known to me that she was considering buying a $6000 massage chair.
--Just to add, my money has never been discussed until I brought it up. It's never been brought up by her.
Now, moving forward. Please let me know if I'm just being a brat or my feelings are valid.
Friday 5th of March. I explained to her that I am in some financial distress right now (which I'll explain another time to you MyLotters) and if I could please at least have half of it for now. Her reply: "Aww sh*t we can give u 50.00 on Tuesday."
Anyway blah blah Tuesday morning I sent her a message. "Hey. Was it still alright to get that $50 from you today please?"
Her reply. "Yep it takes 3 days to come thro."
Then I gave her my bank details.
Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and now Friday, nothing. Nothing is in my bank.
So I message her about it asking if it was meant to go in today or Monday as I need to by Tuesday.
Her reply "I am sorry I didn't send it as we didn't have it. I promise it will go in on Tuesday. We are really struggling and have been for a while."
We spoke a little bit further but I'm sorry, nothing was said to me Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or today to let me know she never sent it. Isn't it common courtesy to let the other person know it's not coming???? I told her I was relying on that money.
I have not started an argument with her, I'm still being polite but explained that I had no idea what was going on as I wasn't told. Anyway, to conclude this, am I right or wrong to be feeling p*ssed off about not being told I wasn't getting any of my money back? Let alone waiting for over a year now!
And sorry again with all due respect, maybe I am different but you can't even put away $1 a week? Heck even 50 cents a week away to start paying me back?
And no way am I angry regarding MONEY. Though, I could really use that right now! It's the lies. The lack of communication on her end and lack common courtesy to make no effort to tell me anything about this money unless I bring it up first.
I adore you MyLotters and I admire your opinion but I do beg you to please not mention how I "shouldn't have lent her money." Lesson is learned already! I just don't want to feel bad and stressed more than I already am (explain another time). I just want to know if my feelings are valid or not.
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34 responses
@gamayngbaki (1602)
• Cebu, Philippines
12 Mar 21
It''s just normal for a person to feel angry. She lied to you about depositing her payment directly to the bank. That;s very cruel of her because you were relying on her payment.
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@gamayngbaki (1602)
• Cebu, Philippines
13 Mar 21
@vandana7 I fully agree with you
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@gamayngbaki I agree, it wasn't right for what she did or has done to me all this time regarding money. I have finally received half of this payment but I will do a post about it later tonight.
@moffittjc (121729)
• Gainesville, Florida
12 Mar 21
I would have called her out when she said she was struggling. I would have brought up the $200 dog and the $6000 massage chair. Struggling? Really? She's not struggling, she just has her priorities all messed up.
I wouldn't ever expect that you'd get your money back. It's clear she took advantage of you. Cut your losses and walk away.
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@GardenGerty (160949)
• United States
13 Mar 21
You have vented here, and I hope you can just chalk up your loss and quit letting her bad behavior control your peace of mind. She is not worth it.
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
13 Mar 21
Priorities messed up? This person has been doing it for real long. And will continue to find others to do it. She is habituated to living like that ..borrowing from other and forgetting all about it. I hope Danielle has some evidence of payment. There is limitation act too to consider. There are few remedies for such torts which seem small but cause a lot of frustration. Taking such folks to court costs money. Not to mention time. Lot of stress.
Cutting losses? That habituates her and enables her to find another victim. I would be as sneaky as she has been with Danielle. I would check the facebook common friend and express the feeling that she is not returning monies and I need it, play the victim that she is. And REQUEST HELP FROM THEM. A couple of friends like that..her social circle will start questioning her. She would return it, and take a lesson NOT TO REPEAT IT AGAIN or lose their respect which she yearns to be in company of.
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@moffittjc (121729)
• Gainesville, Florida
13 Mar 21
@GardenGerty I agree. She should just walk away from the matter and don't look back. I doubt she'll get her money back.
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@Juliaacv (51383)
• Canada
27 Mar 21
@VivaLaDani13 Good, I am happy that you are making progress.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@Juliaacv Thank you for your answer. Makes me feel better knowing my feelings are valid. I will be doing an update post about it later tonight but I have finally received half of what she owes me.
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@marlina (154130)
• Canada
27 Mar 21
@VivaLaDani13 Half is better than nothing, but please do not lend money to anyone anymore!
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@marlina I agree. I will still fight for my other half though. I won't be letting her off that easy. And nope, I can promise you I won't be lending her any money ever again! She can try it on someone else.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@marlina Thank you for your sincere comment. You're always so lovely. I will be doing a post about it later on tonight but I have finally got half of my money back. I was meant to get my other $50 on Thursday but nope.
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@JudyEv (342110)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Mar 21
@VivaLaDani13 I do hope you don't let her off with a half-payment. She really needs to learn that debts have to be paid. But that's great that you have some of your money back.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@JudyEv No way. I want all of it back. I won't let her forget or get away with it. And I agree with you. I want her to know that when you borrow money, you should be mature and decent enough to pay it all back no matter what.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@JudyEv Thank you for that! I really appreciate your comment. I have finally got half of my money back. I was meant to get the other half on Thursday but nothing has happened. I'm not surprised. I will be doing a post about it later on tonight to update everyone.
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@Sam_graphixer (2465)
• India
12 Mar 21
Totally valid .... i myself getting pissed just hearing to it .... i mean how can somebody do this .... you helped that person when she needed it the most .... you are being extremely polite even now ..... still that person behaving like ... uggghhh its soo annoying
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
13 Mar 21
@Sam_graphixer The simple thing is - lend cash at your risk no court will uphold any rights then. If paid through bank, and not repaid, get check dishonored. If the check is dishonored thrice, the banker becomes obligated to disconnect all banking services to that person, and report to credit score agencies who need to inform all banks. No lender will come forward to lend to the person. A person habituated to living this way will feel suffocated. The inwards will be allowed, outwards not, till the dues on the dishonored checks and interest are discharged. No need to file cases in courts. Any banker going against credit score agency's reports and facilitating banking services will be punished 10 times the amount plus legal charges and government expenses.
Supreme Court guys will be so relieved. Lots of check bounce cases are pending and such folks are getting away with it. Their spouses and children too should face such banking issues based on their credit scores. With each year, there should be interest compounded at specified rate. The debt should not be time barred if there is check issued to clear it. It becomes inheritable debt.
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@Sam_graphixer (2465)
• India
13 Mar 21
@vandana7 oh yes.... The only thing the law maker is doing is making normal people fool
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@pumpkinjam (8769)
• United Kingdom
12 Mar 21
You are absolutely right to feel the way you do. There are people who would genuinely struggle to put $1 a week away but this 'friend' of yours is clearly not that hard up if she can be spending thousands on chairs and puppies.
It doesn't matter even that you're struggling. You could be a millionaire. This person owes money that she clearly has no intention of repaying.
I've had people like that in my life - telling me they can't afford to pay back. As if I could afford to be without what was rightfully mine.
This person is not your friend. I don't know if it'd be worth taking her to a small claims court or if you'd be better letting it go and letting her go as well. She isn't going to pay you back.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@pumpkinjam Thank you so much for that! And I agree with you. I know she does struggle but obviously not enough if she can put money away for expensive things instead of paying back debts. She does this with her mother too.
I will do an update post about it later but I have finally received half of what she owes me. I will never be loaning her money ever again after the way she handled this!
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@toniganzon (72533)
• Philippines
12 Mar 21
I think you’re being too nice to your friend. She has no respect for you or your needs. When she was in need you were there for her and now that you are in trouble, she couldn’t even bother to let you know she couldn’t pay you. The lack of respect is her letting you believe she would pay you when she didn’t even have any plans to.
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
13 Mar 21
@toniganzon So wouldn't that person do this to another person who can ill afford the 100 dollars you could afford to let go?
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@toniganzon (72533)
• Philippines
13 Mar 21
@vandana7 We won’t be friends anymore. I wouldn’t keep asking for the money anymore but i would no longer be speaking with her. That is not a friend.
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@RasmaSandra (80736)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
13 Mar 21
Your feelings are very valid and it sounds like she is just making up all kinds of excuses. I know you need the money but unless you can force her hand you might just be out of the money, I wish you all the best and I hope you can get that money from her,
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@RasmaSandra (80736)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
28 Mar 21
@VivaLaDani13 now that is good news
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@RasmaSandra Thank you for understanding where I was coming from as well as making my feelings feel valid. I will do a post about it a bit later on tonight so you're welcome to read the update if you like but to sum it up, I have managed to at least get half of my money back.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
28 Mar 21
@RasmaSandra Thank you, I agree as I really needed it.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@Lucky15 Thank you so much. You understand my feelings well. I have finally got half of my money back but I will type up that update post a bit later on tonight.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@paigea Thank you so very much, that means a lot to me. I will be doing an update post about it later on tonight but I have finally received half of my money back! Still waiting on the other half which was supposed to be paid on Thursday but nothing happened. Not surprising at all!
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@ZedSmart I agree with you. Thankfully she has finally at least paid me back half of what she owes me. I will be doing an update post about it later tonight.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@CarolDM She never sent it at all so it would have never have come through in the time period she said it would. But I have finally got at least half of it now. Mostly due to me not letting it go (I was still kind but wouldn't let it go). I will do an update post about it later on tonight.
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@lazydaizee (6735)
• United Kingdom
12 Mar 21
It is a worry if somebody owes you money especially if that person is a friend. I know somebody else who had a similar problem. A friend`s husband got into debt through gambling and her friend lent him some money without her knowing. He thought he could get away without paying it back , but then the friend contacted another of his family and he felt ashamed and payed it back in the end. Do you know if any of your friend`s family would help you to get your money back
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@lazydaizee Oh dear! That is awful! Sometimes it helps to get other people involved like family members. My friend's brother has offered to pay but I keep declining. I want that money to come from her pocket like agreed. I have a thing about people having their debts being cleared by others because then they don't learn anything.
I will do an update post later tonight about this but I have finally got half of my money back.
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@rakski (125995)
• Philippines
13 Mar 21
your feelings are definitely valid as I will feel the same.
now that you know how is he with comes to money, I say let it go as it will take a miracle if she will pay you. I do not know why are there people like that once they already got what they want, you are not a part of their priorities anymore
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@rakski (125995)
• Philippines
27 Mar 21
@VivaLaDani13 lesson learn for you. at least you helped her in good faith. She will reap what she sow
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@rakski Thank you for making me feel like my feelings are valid.
Thankfully I have finally received at least half of my money back and still waiting on the other half which I was supposed to be getting on Thursday but surprise surprise, that never happened. I will be doing an update post on it a bit later tonight. But I can tell you now, I will never be lending her any more money after such a long wait and for the way she handled it all.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@rakski Totally! Thank you for your sweet comment. I hope you're alright. I read your post about your brother in law. I know it doesn't fix anything but I am so sorry for your loss.
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@Shiva49 (26776)
• Singapore
13 Mar 21
Sorry to hear of this sordid issue but is the most common thing in this world.
Some are on another page with nil conscience to hurt them.
I have lost thousands of dollars to a few who just walked away after promising the sky.
They walk with heads held high while the lender feels bad about reminding!
You have been patient like me, taken advantage of.
Hope you do get it back asap.
The famous adage comes to mind "If You Want to Lose a Friend, Lend Them Money.
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@Shiva49 (26776)
• Singapore
13 Mar 21
@vandana7 I knew one who was gentlemanly all the years I knew him - for twenty years.
Then he wanted my help and I said no issues as long as it was legal.
I refused one that was shady.
I spent towards expenses about five thousand dollars
Then he became incommunicado.
I heard he got into a bank fraud case and was even sentenced to jail.
Obviously, he is out now but no response even though he knows my email id!
My amount should be peanuts to him as the case involved millions.
.
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@vandana7 (100603)
• India
13 Mar 21
Lending also shows us some trustworthy friends. So kinda it is also a litmus test to know who is and who is not a good friend material. There are plenty of surprises on that route. LOL. I have had somebody repaying me debt after 12 years. Debts I did not even know or remember. There are poor people too, who you write off the debt of but they remember and return. When you refuse to take it back, they are overwhelmed with gratitude. I have seen both sides. My conclusion - lend only what you can afford not to get back.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@thelme55 Thank you for validating my feelings. I'm sorry to know you've been in this position. I will be doing the same as to never lending her money ever again. I have finally received half of what is owed to me. I will be doing an update post about it later tonight.
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@Janet357 (75646)
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12 Mar 21
I would feel the same thing. I think this happened to me before when the lady borrowed money from me and she had gone to beaches, but she kept on saying she had no money. I think next time, better not lend money to people. The recent one we had was a couple who bought a new motorcyle and it has been over a year now, yet they have not completed their payment yet because of their bla.bla.bla. I understand what you feel. Only few people pay what they owe.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@Janet357 I'm sorry to know you're in this position too. It makes me so angry when people do not do the right thing! I will be doing an update post about what is owed to me later tonight.
@DocAndersen (54402)
• United States
12 Mar 21
The transfer can take 3 business days, sadly that could be as late as Monday. I would wait til Monday and then bring it up again.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@DocAndersen I really appreciate your comment a lot. Not just because it's so sweet but because, I feel under appreciated some times by some people. I'm actually trying to hold back from being too generous as I'm needing to save money.
Thank you for your beautiful comment. Made me smile and feel good.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@DocAndersen Well that's the thing. She actually never sent it period. So I didn't get the money in the time frame she said I would get it. She never told me Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday that it was never sent. I didn't find out it was never sent until I chased after it (again).
I have however got half of it now. Was supposed to get the other half on Thursday but (surprise surprise) she didn't send that. I will be doing an update post about it later on tonight.
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@DocAndersen (54402)
• United States
27 Mar 21
@VivaLaDani13 you are a very kind person. You have the right to your money. Your kindness lent the money, the reality is she is taking advantage of you.
i am so sorry.
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@aureategloom (10988)
• Bosnia And Herzegovina
12 Mar 21
hmm well, some people are like that i guess. i know you're annoyed about lies and all that, but let it go. you'll feel better. it can't be that bad situation that you desperately need those 50$. let it go, don't mention it anymore.
when i give money i always say "don't worry about it, give me back when you can" and i really mean that. and i'll never bring it up to you "hey i gave you money, are you going to give it back?" no matter what situation i'm in because maybe the person isn't in a good financial situation either. but if i don't get my money back or you never bring it up like "omg i never gave you back the money you lent me", i won't lend you money again. i think that's right thing to do.
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@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
27 Mar 21
@aureategloom I understand where you are coming from but I guess I cannot just let it go because I'm fed up with being used. This isn't the first time. I will be doing an update post about it later on tonight but I did eventually get half of my money back. I'm still waiting for the other half which I was supposed to get on Thursday but of course, that never happened but I will be fighting for that half too.
@VivaLaDani13 (60794)
• Perth, Australia
28 Mar 21
@aureategloom It's up but it's honestly no worries if you don't read it. Beauty of this site is we can answer / read whatever we like. And thank you. I'm just hoping to get the other half ASAP.
@aureategloom (10988)
• Bosnia And Herzegovina
28 Mar 21
@VivaLaDani13 i'll probably read that post too, but good thing you got at least the half of your money back.
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