I came across a very strange phrase today

@JudyEv (349210)
Rockingham, Australia
April 27, 2021 3:29am CST
I’ve been rereading some books then donating some and just keeping the ones I can’t bear to give away. I’ve just finished with Raccoons are the Brightest People by Sterling North. He believes raccoons are very intelligent and has many engaging tales to tell about them. Some that visited his home in Wisconsin learnt to ring a bell whereupon he would feed them. He also saw two cooperate to open a jar. After a couple of false starts and some metaphorical head-scratching, one raccoon held the jar tight in its arms while the other screwed off the lid. However, what I really wanted to share was the fact that, within the book, I came across this passage: ‘It has curtain across it to hide cookbooks, purses, work gloves and other lares and penates.’ I’d never heard of ‘lares and penates’ before but it seems it has several meanings. One is ‘household gods’ and the other meaning is ‘personal or household effects’. So I’m wondering has anyone on myLot heard of this phrase before? The wonderful photo is courtesy of: Darkone, CC BY-SA 2.5 <https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/2.5>, via Wikimedia Commons
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@ZedSmart (19785)
• Philippines
27 Apr 21
I learn something new also today. Thanks.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Apr 21
I did too but I can't imagine I'll ever use it. It sounds too weird.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
@ZedSmart It would make a person seem very clever, wouldn't it?
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@ZedSmart (19785)
• Philippines
27 Apr 21
@JudyEv I think unlikely for a conversation but perhaps ideal for literary works.
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@DaddyEvil (144278)
• United States
27 Apr 21
No, I've never heard of that phrase before. It is interesting, though.
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@DaddyEvil (144278)
• United States
27 Apr 21
@myklj999 As long as you treat them right, they will let you make believe you control the house.
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@DaddyEvil (144278)
• United States
27 Apr 21
@JudyEv It's rare for me to read something I haven't read before but when I do, I can get lost in reading about the phrase that's new to me.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Apr 21
I like coming across words and phrases that I haven't seen before.
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@m_audrey6788 (58472)
• Germany
27 Apr 21
Sorry. Never heard of it too Have a great day
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Apr 21
It seems a very odd phrase.
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• Germany
27 Apr 21
@JudyEv Yes. I think so too
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@LadyDuck (472516)
• Switzerland
27 Apr 21
I never heard referred to kitchen stuff, but I did when I studied Roman mythology. Lares and Penates (Latin words) were groups of deities who protected the houses and the family. They were the spirits of the ancestors who protected the home.
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@LadyDuck (472516)
• Switzerland
28 Apr 21
@JudyEv No, it is correct, when I visited the old Roman city of Pompeii, all the houses had a small temple inside to honor the Lares and Penates.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
Thanks for that information. At first, I thought 'household gods' was a missprint.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
29 Apr 21
@LadyDuck I've read about the gods since. :) I'm sure Pompeii would have been interesting.
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@Fleura (31386)
• United Kingdom
27 Apr 21
Nope, I have never ever heard of or read that phrase before! It sounds like the sort of thing @xFiacre would like to slip in here and there!
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@xFiacre (13355)
• Ireland
27 Apr 21
@fleura Well it’s not an expression I’ve ever managed to a slip in as a contribution to Belfast’s extensive latrinalia.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Apr 21
I was thinking Fiacre would probably know it or the Owl (@owlwings).
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
@xFiacre It's one you can add to your list! If you get a few more big words, soon no-one will understand you at all.
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@CarolDM (203422)
• Nashville, Tennessee
27 Apr 21
Never heard of these phrases but I have seen my share of raccoons.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
Have you ever befriended one?
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@CarolDM (203422)
• Nashville, Tennessee
28 Apr 21
@JudyEv Just the opposite. That are known for getting into the trash and making a mess.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
@CarolDM He did mention that they are good at getting into things - and getting lids of bins, etc.
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@snowy22315 (186985)
• United States
27 Apr 21
Nico has a mask and reminds me of a raccoon. I think raccoons are clever.
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@GardenGerty (162783)
• United States
28 Apr 21
@JudyEv We had a tribe of young raccoons terrorizing us for dog food. I was keeping my sister's dogs. They got in the plastic tub, so we got a metal trash can with a tight fitting lid, they worked together to take it off. We put a full heavy tool box on it and a number of babies or maybe teenage raccoons worked together to shove it off and then take the lid off. 3 or four at least.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
29 Apr 21
@GardenGerty I can imagine how annoying that would have been. You would be always trying to keep one step ahead of the villains.
@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
I enjoyed reading the book. They were able to turn taps on (but never turned them off) and quickly learnt now skills/tricks.
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@allen0187 (58574)
• Philippines
27 Apr 21
First time I've heard about this phrase.
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@allen0187 (58574)
• Philippines
30 Apr 21
@JudyEv same.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
It's a strange one. I can't see myself using it.
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@wolfgirl569 (113576)
• Marion, Ohio
27 Apr 21
I think I might have a long time ago. But never thought about what it was.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
It's certainly not in common usage.
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@Dena91 (16865)
• United States
27 Apr 21
This is a new phrase to me as well.
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@owlwings (43907)
• Cambridge, England
28 Apr 21
@JudyEv I don't think that it was ever in common use but Latin was a required subject for many people (you had to have it to get into University - that is, Oxford or Cambridge, anyway) so reference to the Roman household gods would have been more widely known than it is today.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
The author was born in the early 1900s so perhaps it was in common use then.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
@owlwings Thanks for that. When I first read 'household gods', I thought it must have been a misprint.
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@Chellezhere (5770)
• United States
27 Apr 21
I majored in English language and literature. I have run across that phrase at some point, but cannot recall where or when. My grandmother may have even been the one who said it. But, as I know you know, its use has become obsolete.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
It seems a really strange phrase. Neither word brings to mind any other that has any similarity.
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• Nairobi, Kenya
27 Apr 21
I've never heard of it before. I'm reading for the first time on your post. You did good sharing.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
Thank you. I'm glad you enjoyed reading.
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• Nairobi, Kenya
28 Apr 21
@JudyEv you are most welcomed
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@porwest (98108)
• United States
27 Apr 21
The entire phrase eludes me honestly. But I have to wholly agree that racoons are EXTREMELY intelligent creatures.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
It's a fascinating book. The author mostly observed wild ones but did rear a couple of orphans. He thought they were incredibly intelligent too.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
29 Apr 21
@porwest Sterling North believed that they could learn a large number of words and phrases.
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@porwest (98108)
• United States
28 Apr 21
@JudyEv Even when I was in pest control and dealt with them often, I always found there was an eerie humanness to their mannerisms. Even when you spoke to them, it was as though they understood you.
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@DocAndersen (54402)
• United States
27 Apr 21
you always find the "most fun" words and phrases. This is one I remember reading many years ago in a book by Beatrix Potter.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
29 Apr 21
@DocAndersen Did you make something up in the meantime?
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
Really? How about that? Beatrix Potter was probably about the same era as Sterling North.
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@DocAndersen (54402)
• United States
28 Apr 21
@JudyEv pretty much - i read the book to my class and one of the kids said "what does that mean" I had to go look it up at lunch time!
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• China
27 Apr 21
It is amazing raccoons have such high intelligence quotient ! Maybe they can do some other things that make us jaw dropped.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
They certainly surprised the author of the book many times. They seem really nice little creatures.
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@1creekgirl (43064)
• United States
27 Apr 21
This is such a cool post! I've never read that phrase before now.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
I'm glad you enjoyed reading. I always do a double take when I come across words/phrases I've never heard before.
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@JESSY3236 (20328)
• United States
27 Apr 21
never heard of that phase wither.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
I don't think it is used at all now.
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@thelme55 (77378)
• Germany
27 Apr 21
No, I have not heard of this phrase before.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
It's certainly an unusual one.
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@thelme55 (77378)
• Germany
29 Apr 21
@JudyEv Yes, it is indeed,
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@arunima25 (89449)
• Bangalore, India
28 Apr 21
Never heard of such phrase. It's amazing to know such incidents about raccoons. I have seen that kind of intelligence in dogs and monkeys.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
29 Apr 21
It's a very interesting book. The author believed the raccoons could understand quite a number of words.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
30 Apr 21
@arunima25 I found it very engaging. Sterling North was a big name but quite some time ago. Perhaps he is barely remembered now.
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@arunima25 (89449)
• Bangalore, India
30 Apr 21
@JudyEv I have noted down the name of book. Maybe I get to read it some day. Sounds interesting read to me.
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@Nevena83 (65277)
• Serbia
27 Apr 21
I've always wondered if raccoons are dangerous?
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@GardenGerty (162783)
• United States
28 Apr 21
@JudyEv Or if they have rabies.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
28 Apr 21
If they are wild and cornered or whatever, then they will scratch and bite.
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@JudyEv (349210)
• Rockingham, Australia
29 Apr 21
@GardenGerty I forget about rabies as we don't have it in Australia. That would be quite a worry.