Cremation is not always the simple option

@Fleura (31216)
United Kingdom
September 14, 2022 1:35pm CST
Decades ago, burial was the ‘norm’ after death in the UK and cremation was rare. Many of my relatives are buried in the cemetery in the village where I grew up. But as cemeteries get fuller, and families more scattered, cremation is becoming more and more common. This has now led to another difficulty though – what to do with the ashes of the deceased? When someone is buried, it has to happen relatively soon and in a defined place, and that’s that – over and done with. When they are cremated, the ashes are returned to the family – and then what do they do with them? Some families keep their loved one’s ashes in an urn or pot of some sort in the house. Eventually of course that generation dies and someone else inherits the ashes. And then later they might be forgotten and rediscovered years later by someone who doesn’t realise what is in the pot, and just throws it out or accidentally uses the contents for something else, mistakiing them for pepper or something. Some people specify that they want their ashes scattered in a certain place – this can cause damage if it happens often enough – so many people have had their ashes scattered around the summit of mount Snowden (highest mountain in England and Wales) that it has affected the ecology of the area and changed the nature of the local flora! Others leave no specific instructions, so then what to do? This is on my mind as both my parents have died some years ago now and I still have the ashes here. I thought of scattering their ashes in places that each of them loved – but then they would be in separate places, would that matter? Should they be together? Should I inter them in the local cemetery with other family (although that would only be my mother’s family)? Should I scatter some ashes in a favourite place and the rest together? Or is it weird to divide up their remains? My Dad said ‘just put me on the compost heap Fleur’ but so far I haven’t quite been able to bring myself to do that! All these questions, and meanwhile the ashes stay here waiting. And all that agonising when in reality, I know that the person I loved is gone and the ashes are probably just the remains of the box or could even just be a scoop of someone else – who knows what really goes on behind the closed door of the crematorium! Having mentioned this to other relatives and friends I know I am not alone in this. One colleague kept her mother’s ashes in her filing cabinet at work for several years. Others divided up their relative and scattered the ashes in several places that were important to them. One friend’s mother buried her husband’s ashes in the garden and planted a rose bush – but then a while later she moved to a smaller house so she dug up the bush plus a bucketful of soil/ashes and took it with her to the new house. And then a bit later she also died so her daughter then dug up the rose bush again and took it along with some of the soil to her house. Another friend lives in Austria and her mother lived in Italy. When her mother died, her body was cremated (and the ashes were handed over still warm! That in itself is a bit hard to deal with!) but then her daughter was not allowed to take the ashes home with her to Austria – apparently it isn’t permitted to keep someone’s ashes there. So instead she is trying to arrange with her brother to collect the ashes and bring them back to Britain, where they are all originally from, so they can all get together here to do something with them. How complicated. I always thought I would prefer my body to be cremated. I don’t fancy having my body dug up and analysed in a century or so by pathologists who will sequence my DNA, examine my skeleton, investigate the isotopes in my teeth.... The results might be interesting, but I still don’t want to be the subject. Cremation removes that possibility. But then what? I thought I’d like to have my ashes scattered at sea, but would that damage the ecosystem? Of course it also carries risks to friends and relatives while carrying out my wishes – not long ago a man drowned after falling into the sea when scattering a relative’s ashes. And then there is the risk that the ashes might blow back into the faces of the scatterers – or even onto the picnic lunch of nearby innocent seaside visitors! Maybe burial is easier after all. And if you happen to be murdered the body can be exhumed for further investigations! All rights reserved. © Text and image copyright Fleur 2022.
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13 responses
@CarolDM (203422)
• Nashville, Tennessee
14 Sep 22
I have the same questions about what really goes on behind closed doors at the crematoriums. But we have to trust them. I have a cousin that lost her sister, she was cremated, and her ashes were buried in her Mom's grave.
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@DaddyEvil (142919)
• United States
14 Sep 22
My parents are buried together in our family plot. I've told Pretty and one brother that I want to be cremated and the ashes scattered on the shore of the lake about 45 minutes from our home. (One sister-in-law wants to put some of my ashes on her son's grave so people have a place to "remember" me. Now that feels weird to me and I've told Pretty not to let that happen!) It's just ashes. Pretty can flush me down the toilet if she feels like it.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
14 Sep 22
I don't see why your name can't be put someplace where people can 'remember' you, without having to have some of your remains scattered there.
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@DaddyEvil (142919)
• United States
14 Sep 22
@Fleura Once the people who remember where my ashes are scattered are gone too, there's no need for anything to remember me by.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
14 Sep 22
@DaddyEvil Maybe, but perhaps in future someone will be investigating the family history and they would like to find a record of you?
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@kaylachan (75812)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
14 Sep 22
I don't know what to tell you. I know my husband wants us to be cremated and put in a wall with his late parents. I suppose that's an option.
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@kaylachan (75812)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
14 Sep 22
@Fleura Yeah. He's a navy vet, so we have a place we can go.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
14 Sep 22
Yes that sounds quite straightforward. Glad he has made his wishes known.
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@wolfgirl569 (112688)
• Marion, Ohio
15 Sep 22
I like the idea of planting something. Hubby wants me to dump his where we buried an old horse at. But if we sell this place that could be hard for me to do. So them I will just plant something in him if he goes first.
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@wolfgirl569 (112688)
• Marion, Ohio
15 Sep 22
@Fleura If she loved roses that would be a great thing to do.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
15 Sep 22
Yes that's a good idea, because then there is something there to always remind you (not that you're likely to forget, but I'm sure you know what I mean). Maybe I should plant a rose for my mother, she loved roses.
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@RubyHawk (99404)
• Atlanta, Georgia
15 Sep 22
I plan to be cremated. My son asked to be cremated and his ashes put in LittleRiver canyon where he spent happy times with friends. My mate also asked to be cremated. He wanted his ashes sprinkled on trails we had walked, we did that. My ashes will be sprinkled where my mates was and on my first husbands grave.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
15 Sep 22
It's good to have a definite plan : )
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@RubyHawk (99404)
• Atlanta, Georgia
15 Sep 22
@Fleura That’s true. We should have a plan.
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@dgobucks226 (36225)
16 Sep 22
Wow! So many issues to contend with. I was going to be cremated now I'm thinking it might be better to rest in a mausoleum where my parents bodies rest.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
16 Sep 22
The situation is much simpler if you have an idea of what you want and you can tell your family : )
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@dgobucks226 (36225)
16 Sep 22
@Fleura Yes, I agree!
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@snowy22315 (186274)
• United States
15 Sep 22
There is a lot to think about for sure.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
15 Sep 22
More complicated than it seems!
@allknowing (141899)
• India
15 Sep 22
If burial means the end the same should happen with cremation. Why collect the ashes?
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
15 Sep 22
I don't know how it started, now it is just routine to receive the ashes afterwards.
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@LeaPea2417 (37597)
• Toccoa, Georgia
14 Sep 22
One of my Mom's friends was cremated and it was interesting what she instructed her family to do with the ashes, she wanted one half buried at the family vault and the other half sprinkled in the river/lake behind the family vacation home.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
14 Sep 22
I guess if you can't decide which you prefer, that's the best choice.
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@sol_cee (38219)
• Philippines
16 Sep 22
The ashes might blow back into the faces of the scatterers. -in sad sad movies, this never happens but yeah in reality everything is possible
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
16 Sep 22
@xFiacre says it happened to him : (
@JudyEv (347848)
• Rockingham, Australia
15 Sep 22
A fascinating post, thanks, Fleur. To try to make it easier for our 'boys' who live thousands of kms away, we will be cremated and the ashes placed in a columbarium at the church which we used to attend. But I understand all you are saying. I always felt it a bit odd to divvy upu the ashes between family members. That always seemed a bit 'off' to me. Obviously, it's only ashes and the 'souls' have long gone but it's still a bit weird.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
15 Sep 22
I can see it's a good idea to make one's wishes known (as with most things). I like the idea of being scattered off the coast of Cornwall, where I spent so many happy times, but of course things could change if I live long enough. And I wouldn't want anyone to risk falling off a cliff for my sake. Perhaps by then it'll be possible to use a drone to carry the ashes and then open up and drop them a short distance from the shore.
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@Dena91 (16859)
• United States
15 Sep 22
There is a lot of thought that must be given to what happens to us when we die. My grandparent and Dad were all cremated and their ashes are together in a cemetery. Mike and I don't mind being cremated. I need to make instructions that after we are both gone to scatter us.
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
15 Sep 22
Yes it is a good idea to tell others what we want!
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@Ronrybs (20175)
• London, England
14 Sep 22
Most of the family have or want to be buried with my grandmother, who is a couple of miles from me. I am all for cremation and they can use the ashes in a breeze block or whatever!
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@Fleura (31216)
• United Kingdom
14 Sep 22
I didn't even include the options of making ashes into jewellery or shooting them off into space!
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@Ronrybs (20175)
• London, England
15 Sep 22
@Fleura A space trip would be nice, but a bit out of my pocket!
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