The golden age of Hollywood

@sissy15 (12290)
United States
August 9, 2023 12:48am CST
I love reading about the golden age of Hollywood and about MGM specifically. It was a time when celebrities really had it made in a way they don't today. Back then stars were catered to. The downside is that this was also a time when it was a lot easier for people to be taken advantage of and child stars at the time didn't have the rights and regulations that they do today. MGM at one time had the biggest list of celebrities and was known for its good looking actors. They catered to them in a way a lot of other studios didn't. I remember reading about how they actually hired cars to drive their stars where they needed on the lot and had them take classes in everything they thought they'd need to be a convincing actor. They had classes for horseback riding, swimming, etc. They wanted their stars to be convincing and they were. MGM had a budget for movies a lot of other studios didn't. Watching a musical made by Warner Brothers was never as good as an MGM musical. MGM was well known for its musicals. Actors back then had it made in a lot of ways. The studio covered up things about the actors that could damage their reputations and it was much easier to hide things back then than it is now. I often think it had to be easier in some ways to be a celebrity back then. They could actually keep their private life mostly private because there wasn't the internet the way there is now. Celebrities didn't have every stupid thing they did posted online for everyone to see. The downside is that in order to be successful back then they often had to hide who they were. People were not ok with openly homosexual celebrities. The studio had a lot more sway over actors and had more control over their lives. I think about poor Judy Garland a lot and what they did to her. I think about how while Van Johnson didn't actually complain much about MGM and was happy to let them make his image and the way he lived up to it there was a rumor that MGM was behind him marrying Evie Wynn. I don't know how much of that was Van and how much of that was MGM but I know they couldn't have a gay celebrity so they hid it. Doris Day didn't care much about being a celebrity so they didn't have the sway over her the way they did a lot of other actors. When I read about that time period it sounds as amazing as it sounds heartbreaking. Nothing is ever perfect. There's a reason some things don't last. I feel like there's always sacrifice in everything especially in the things that seem "perfect". I think about how much easier it was for agents to take advantage of people back then. I remember reading that Van Johnson said he didn't actually know how much money he had because he had people handle it and that's a pretty scary concept. I feel like celebrities while having people to help them handle things today are more aware of how much money they have. Van used to claim in interviews that he was careful with money and his stepson said that was true in some aspects but not others and that Van spent money for the glamour of it and then statements of not knowing how much he had. I feel like back in the day things like that were just handed over to other people to take care of without really questioning it. It was a lot easier to get away with things like that back then. People still scam people today especially online but if you aren't naive and are smart you know not to trust people whereas back then people just handed over their money without questioning it as much. I think the golden age of Hollywood sounds almost magical but too perfect to have existed forever which is why it didn't. Things happen and things change and we have to move on from them. A lot of actors struggled after the collapse of the golden age when they had to try and find work on their own after their contracts either expired or they ended them. I still feel like MGM didn't use Van Johnson to the full extent of his abilities and just put him in things that would make the Bobbysoxers swoon. He just took whatever was handed to him and didn't question it much. Back then they had to do so many movies per their contract with whatever studio they were signed to and didn't have a lot of say on which movies they were given. I feel like he was shortchanged with all of his talent as were several of the actors under contract. Van could sing and dance fairly well he may not have been Gene Kelly and he didn't have the voice of Frank Sinatra but he could still do both well and despite it all, he only really used either of those talents a few times in movies. For MGM having the pool of talent they had they definitely didn't use it the way they should have. Studios no longer contract actors. They now hire them to play different roles and they contract per movie and not the actor themselves. It got too expensive for studios to contract actors. They now only pay an actor per movie whereas back in the day they had a set amount they paid an actor and the actor had to do so many movies within a year or however long their contract said but it offered a source of security that doesn't exist now but at the same time it made it easier for studios to control their actors which is much more difficult to do today. Actors are granted more freedom over roles and their own lives now but they aren't offered the same financial security they were back when they did contract actors to studios. During the golden age, celebrities were treated like royalty and the movies were better with more original storylines and they had to be creative with situations and couldn't rely on special effects because they didn't exist then. Part of the reason I love old movies so much is because of the care that was put into them and I love that almost every movie during that time was a movie you could watch with your children. Van Johnson and Doris Day both said they didn't want to do movies that weren't family-friendly. Neither liked the way newer movies did sex scenes and spoke with vulgarity. Van Johnson never felt comfortable with swearing on screen or stage and Doris Day just didn't like swearing. It was just a classier time I guess. I like newer movies too. I like a good movie in general but there's something about older movies that just speak to me the way a lot of newer ones don't.
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@Starmaiden (9311)
• Canada
9 Aug 23
The mid 20th century was a simpler time for everyone. I think people were happier then and movies actually told a story.
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@sissy15 (12290)
• United States
9 Aug 23
I agree in some respect but each generation had its own issues. Back in that time, they were still dealing with segregation and black celebrities had a much more difficult time. The woman who played Mammy in "Gone with the Wind" wasn't even allowed to go to a showing of the movie because of the color of her skin. Black actors in general were not treated as fairly as white actors. I think mid 20th century seems happier if you're white but probably not to black people. I definitely agree that the movies actually told a story which I love.
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@rebelann (112876)
• El Paso, Texas
9 Aug 23
Those times were very different, homosexuality wasn't discussed with kids, I didn't know about it until I was in my 20s, I was shocked when I found out Rock Hudson was supposedly gay. Then again just how much can anyone believe that the media in any form writes? I don't believe any of the media really knew what any of the actors were like, even Marilyn Monroe is still a mystery, she found ways to hide from the press as often as she could as did Liz Taylor.
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@sissy15 (12290)
• United States
9 Aug 23
I'm pretty sure all the rumors about Rock were true. He eventually openly admitted to having AIDS in a time when it was primarily gay men contracting it. I read his biography and it was interesting. Rock Hudson did believe that men who had been with women made men more manly and preferred more manly men although the rumors of him being with Jim Nabors weren't true. Back then actors were protected from the media in ways they aren't today. They hid their entire identities which is probably why I'm so interested in reading about them. I like learning all of those things that were hidden about them. Marilyn Monroe I think will always be one of the great mysteries. Liz Taylor had a bad reputation but I don't think she was as bad as everyone made her out to be. I'm sure she did a lot of terrible things like stealing Debbie Reynolds husband but you can't steal a man that doesn't want to be stolen. I feel like there was a lot of good in there along with the bad because that's just how people are. We only ever really see so much of any person. Van Johnson had this clean image for so long that he was so terrified of destroying and in reality he was far from perfect. Doris Day wasn't as perfect as the media made her out to be either. I have a friend that always told me she had a love-hate relationship with Doris Day because while she enjoyed her movies she also hated that she came off so perfect but the irony is she wasn't perfect at all. She wrote her autobiography because she wanted to shed that image. She hated that she was seen that way. Then there was Van Johnson who was terrified of shedding his image.
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@rebelann (112876)
• El Paso, Texas
10 Aug 23
Oh wow, so you knew Rock?
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@rebelann (112876)
• El Paso, Texas
10 Aug 23
Anyone can claim anything about a deceased person.
@FourWalls (68100)
• United States
9 Aug 23
I think what I enjoy about older movies is they always (or almost always) had a happy ending. While a lot of people bemoan the Hays Code, it did “force” the movie makers to be more subtle in the way they dealt with “taboo” subjects that are flashed all over the screen today. I like it when they left something to the imagination.
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@sissy15 (12290)
• United States
9 Aug 23
As much as I love older movies a lot of them just ended so abruptly and left you to guess the ending. They seemed happy at times but never actually told you how it ended they left it up to your imagination. I have seen several that didn't have happy endings too at least not in the way some people would classify as happy but I felt like they ended the way they should. If you've ever seen "The Backstreet Affair" that one was pretty sad and the ending wasn't exactly happy but wasn't terrible as a whole. "Imitation of Life" left me gutted and "Marjory Morningstar" a lesser-known movie with Gene Kelly and Natalie Wood didn't exactly have a happy ending either but I felt it ended the way it should. I am all for leaving things to the imagination. I know people are into the newer movies but most R rated movies today could be made family movies if they just took out a few scenes and used less vulgar language but people are into that stuff now. I didn't have an issue with seeing them sleep in the same bed or some mild suggestion but still left things to the imagination.
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@terramars (166)
9 Aug 23
Wow, you know a lot about the golden age of Hollywood and the actors. That's impressive! I also like older movies. Especially Hitchcock movies. His movies are brilliant, truly timeless. What are some of your favorite older movies? What decade of movies do you enjoy the most? The 20s, 30s, 40s, or 50s?
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@sissy15 (12290)
• United States
9 Aug 23
Hitchcock was a pretty good director and he made some good movies. Everyone always relates him to horror movies but he only ever actually made two horror movies "Psycho" and "The Birds" the latter of which still haunts me and has driven my odd fear of most birds but for the most part, he did suspense movies. Hmm, some of my favorite movies...this is a hard one I have a lot. I always classify one of my favorite movies as "Singin' in the Rain" with Gene Kelly, Debbie Reynolds, and Donald O'Connor for many different reasons. My son isn't overly fond when I wake him by singing "Good Morning" at the top of my lungs. When I was younger I was obsessed with "Yours, Mine, and Ours" with Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda and I also really like "The Seven Little Foys" with Bob Hope but I wouldn't classify them as my current favorites. I really like "The Pajama Game" with Doris Day and John Rait. I also like "The Glass Bottom Boat",with Doris Day, and Rod Taylor "I was a Male War Bride" with Cary Grant even though I was always annoyed Cary got away with not having a French accent. I also liked "That Touch of Mink" with Cary Grant and Doris Day and I love the movies Doris Day did with Rock Hudson. I like "Thrill of a Romance" with Van Johnson and Esther Williams and "The Bride Goes Wild" with Van Johnson and June Allyson. There was also a movie called "In Name Only" with Cary Grant I really love. I could probably list movies for hours. "Breakfast at Tiffany's" was another classic I loved with Audrey Hepburn and George Peppard. I can't say I have a favorite decade of movies I like movies from a lot of the decades. I will say I prefer movies from the late 30s to the early 60s but there are favorites sprinkled in all over. I am not a big fan of silent films. I know a lot of people love Charlie Chaplin but I just never got into them.
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@sissy15 (12290)
• United States
9 Aug 23
@terramars There are definitely bigger movie buffs than me out there but I do like learning about movies. I have seen all of the ones you mentioned but the only one I really liked was "Breakfast at Tiffany's" I didn't hate the others they are movie classics but I wasn't a big fan of Gregory Peck for whatever reason and I've seen both older and newer version of "12 Angry Men" and while it's not a bad movie it's one that I could only really watch once because after that it just doesn't hold my interest anymore after that. I had to watch the newer one in school. "It Happened One Night" I don't know why that one never really stayed with me as a favorite but it didn't. It wasn't a bad movie but I guess I just never got that into it. Ha, I wish I could tap dance. I love watching others dance but it was never something I was any good at. I am a natural-born klutz and find walking difficult enough. I love movies with dancing I think it's the fact that I can't dance that makes me so amazed by it. When my son was younger I used to walk him to school and I'd sing at him on the way and he'd be like "Mom! Can you please stop?!" He hated when I sang old movie musical songs to him. He later would join me when I sang "The Greatest Showman" songs because they were newer and more his style. He has slowly gained an appreciation for older musicals over the years. He watched "The Pajama Game" with me on repeat and likes to belt out "The Pajama Game" opening song.
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9 Aug 23
@sissy15 Wow, you're a real old-movie buff! I like old movies, but I don't watch them as much. Besides Hitchcock movies, my favorites are Breakfast at Tiffany's, Roman Holiday, 12 Angry Men, and It Happened One Night. If I don't know what to watch, I usually rewatch those movies. By the way, I imagine you waking up your son by singing "Good Morning"! Did you also do the tap dance? I'm really amazed by the tap dance in that song.
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