Uniform Civil Code...and Indians

Our Prime Minister went to another country and appreciated them for giving land to build a large temple. Back home, we don't do such favors to people from other religion.

@LadyDuck You are too polite. I would say it is ugly.

@vandana7 That is not very nice.

@vandana7 Perhaps some day you can stand for a local or state election and then have your voice heard The unofficial Prez of India here on Mylot can get you many votes as well !

Politicians manipulate us and I feel like a fool when they do or even try to.

@vandana7 They do treat their constituents as idiots sometimes.

Somebody gets greedy either for money or for power, and the nice environment becomes bad. Sigh...

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@vandana7 Yes people would accept what seems more just. However, we first need police and legal reforms without such widespread changes and laws.

By all means UCC. LOL But don't force it down the gullet, as it enables politicians to polarize based on religion. That is why I suggested how to go about getting everyone on board. LOL Jab seedhi ungli se ghee nahin nikalta toh ungli tedhi karni padti hai (when you cannot pull out the butter oil with straight finger, you have to bend the finger). I think I explained it better in DJ's box. You give apparent freedom to everybody with religious bodies taking charge. You bet people from every religion will run away from the punishments in their religion LOL UCC is different from election so that 5 times clause cannot be incorporated in it. I am for only 1 time. We also cannot restrict expenses to 10 lakhs. :( People tend to spend in cash if such restrictions are there. Effectively, white money becomes black or unaccounted money. It also provides enough incentive to people to generate black source of income.

No. We don't have separate Hindu courts, separate Muslim courts, separate Sikh courts. Those courts would be financed by temples, mosques, and gurudwaras. The existing laws applicable to these communities would continue to apply subject to modification within the religion. Implementation would be through religious body. I believe most people would then willingly step out, and accept UCC. The reason is, punishments in respective religions are not acceptable. People are already accustomed to different set of punishments. I think I showed you picture of a woman being stoned for adultery. When it comes to dispute with a member from different religion, UCC would become the applicable law.

@vandana7 Let's take, for example, Sikhi. As per Guru's guidelines, we have a governing body elected by votes from the Sikh community. It makes decisions for the community which does include civil disputes. Each gurdwara, either small or large has such governing body. All these bodies fall under another single governing body which we named SGPC. Then we have 5 Takhts (which are 5 Historically prominent Gurdwaras) and Panj Pyare (5 Beloved Ones /people). They play a great role when there is a difference in opinion or there is a major decision that needs to be taken. For ex.: Homosexuality If I operate as per their rules and accept their punishment like Maharaj Ranjit Singh did when he was lashed 100 times for marrying a nautch girl. Then it becomes a matter of personal comfort. Am I comfortable being lashed for the same reason? Moreover, do I agree with the fact itself that marrying a nautch girl was a punishable offense or not? It becomes a matter of debate. As you mentioned, "a woman being stoned for adultery", in Sharia is allowed. It doesn't happen in Sikhi. The worst that can happen is that a woman is ostracized from her local community. That doesn't mean that she cannot move to another place and become a part of another local Sikh community. But on the same tangent, if Guru Granth Sahib or any of the 10 gurus are mocked or destroyed, or disrespected in any manner, it needs to be taken into consideration that Sikhs are also a martial community. You may recall the last incident in Harmandir Sahib where a person tried to destroy Guru Granth Sahib with a sword. He didn't make it out alive. I can assure you that the Sikh governing body will be a benign entity that is just but only if Guru's words are followed to the letter. And that is where the problem will arise because which interpretation and whom interpretation are we talking about? In my case, I would say SGPC in Punjab is an example that it doesn't work. "I believe most people would then willingly step out, and accept UCC." Let's say, I decide I don't want Sikh authority. I want UCC then in this case I am no longer a Sikh according to Sikh authority. The same authority who controls all of my religious structures. Even if my Right to religion safeguards my right, would it matter? I would be struck off the voting list by my religious authority because a non-sikh person cannot vote. It snatches away my religious rights. When we have already tried it why prolong it more. Keep the religious thing confined to the spiritual realm and let the Centre make decisions on civil and criminal cases. Even with Sharia, Muslim women are done with nikah halala, triple talaq, etc. why force them to undergo such cruelty for more time? (On a side note, the whole concept of sikh and non-Sikh is anti-sikhi. Again, the narrative is under the control of people holding positions in sikh authority.)

Gee thanks. I think everything can be done without imposing. People would naturally want something that others have. So those who agree to UCC don't have to pay for justice, while these people have to. On their own volition they will accept UCC, and it would be their choice. If forced, they would definitely dislike and are openly raising issues about it. Yes, Linda, day has been tense but ok. Hope things are better with your husband. Please keep us posted. Hope you have been able to communicate.

@vandana7 It's very frustrating to call all day long and not be able to speak with him. I have to call the nurse's station for help to get him to answer the phone. I post an update every day. Have a good day.