Juvenile crime, shouldn't the parents be punished?

@vandana7 (100282)
India
May 20, 2024 9:57am CST
A few weeks ago, Judy Evans came up with a post in which parents were harassed by the journalists for a crime their grown up child had committed. Even then, I said, to an extent, parents do need to be punished subject to certain conditions. So here is that condition. A minor drove a Porsche. He was drunk. He rode over and killed two persons riding a motor cycle. Giving the kid access to the car, and even alcoholic beverages is not acceptable parenthood, is it? The motor cyclists were not exactly innocent. The guy was trying to take a short cut where we take U turns. So it could have taken the kid by surprise. Wrong lane! But even so, the vehicle is large, the kid is a youngster, and drunk. He needed to slow down at such places. He did not. What is worse was how callously the court gave the guy a bail withing 15 hours of his arrest.... The conditions for bail were also ridiculous. 1. He would learn traffic rules by working with a traffic policeman. 2. He would write an essay on the accident. 3. He would try to stop drinking 4. He would undergo counselling and treatment for this habit Is that anyway justified for a juvenile? I think parents should be penalized.
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@JudyEv (339930)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 May
While I agree to some extent, I think eveery case would need to be judged on its merit. Sometimes, despite the best of upbringings and intentions of the parents, a child just goes off the rails and there is little the parents can do to stop them.
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@JudyEv (339930)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 May
@vandana7 Certainly the lad was let off very lightly.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
20 May
@JudyEv And do you agree to the punishment I have for the parents? Monetary punishment?
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@JudyEv (339930)
• Rockingham, Australia
20 May
@vandana7 I think 50% is a bit high.
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@LadyDuck (471500)
• Switzerland
21 May
I fully agree with Judy. Every case needs to be examined carefully before judging. Some parents can be responsible, but not all. Some children are so wild even if their parents did everything they could to grow them up as good humans.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
22 May
But giving keys of the new car to the kid? Is that ok?
@vandana7 (100282)
• India
23 May
@TheHorse He is involved with underground world. He took help from a terrorist to solve his land issues with his brother. And he can easily pay the amount I mentioned in Judy's box.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
23 May
@LadyDuck He is a builder, real estate person.
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@TheHorse (218807)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 May
Did this happen in the US?
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
22 May
No ...in India. Pune.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
22 May
@TheHorse He did not, his vehicle did. LOL. People dragged him out and beat him up a bit.
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@TheHorse (218807)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 May
@vandana7 I don't know what kind of sentence he would get here. Did he stop at the scene?
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@just4him (317041)
• Green Bay, Wisconsin
21 May
I think the parents and the juvenile should be punished.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
22 May
@TheHorse True to that. But even so, a child is a parent's responsibility. Parent is supposed to keep keys away from. So it is the parent's failure that led to such a mishap.
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@TheHorse (218807)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 May
As Judy and Anna said, each case has ot be judged individually.
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@TheHorse (218807)
• Walnut Creek, California
22 May
@vandana7 Much of the working population would be broke or in prison if we followed the rules you suggest.
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@Kandae11 (55005)
20 May
He could have taken the car without the parents knowledge.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
21 May
@Kandae11 Exactly. That is why the parent has been arrested today.
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@Kandae11 (55005)
21 May
@vandana7 However l believe the circumstances should be examined thoroughly before determining who should be punished. There are some children who are hell bent on destruction regardless of how hard the parents try to rein them in. Oftentimes you will hear people say of such children - " that one has been down here before".
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@Kandae11 (55005)
21 May
@vandana7 When children reach a certain age they believe they know it all - that is the time when parents must be very strong and vigilant .
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@Rimps85 (1858)
• India
20 May
forget punishing parents, its time for judiciary reform...on a Sunday how is it possible to get a bail, unless money power speaks...a lethargic justice system which is only for the rich n famous, common man has to suffer...
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
20 May
I think everybody working in this country should stop working for 1 week. Bring the government down to its knees. What sort of judgement was that?
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
21 May
@Rimps85 I have been surprised with recent judgments. There has been a sense of urgency or carelessness in many cases. Take for example, sending Rahul Gandhi back into Lok Sabha. As a judge, I would impose a condition that he apologizes for his loose talk in a press conference, and in the parliament, before resuming his duties. Then, recent Kejriwal bail. Judges use services of tax consultants for their personal tax returns, most of the time. So obviously they don't understand various implications. They should call a chartered accountant or cost accountant to come down to the court for the bail hearing, and consult them on whatever the ED is stating. This would impose greater responsibility on ED to present facts. But the judges have given a verdict based on what they felt is going on around them. Whether Kejriwal and others are truly being hounded by BJP through agencies is yet to be confirmed. But such accusations have been made multiple times so judges cannot but help think that it may well be so. In an attempt to be fair, they may have bent backwards. I am not casting aspersions, but there is a delicate situation. When the law does not support serious punishments to juvenile, how can judges take law in their own hands. That may have been the unfortunate situation for the judge. Our laws need to change too. They were drafted for the benefit of brits when they ruled us, and our lawyers chose not to change them, with whatever were the priorities.
@Rimps85 (1858)
• India
20 May
@vandana7 I guess, its now time to name & shame the Judges...these guys should be held responsible for these whimsical verdicts...there's no accountability, whereas common man has to run from pillar to post, spend lacs of money to get a proper judgement from higher courts...
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@psanasangma (7288)
• India
23 May
Its seems they getting away. it is all over the news
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
23 May
I know.... this is how it is working nowadays. :(
@RasmaSandra (79833)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
22 May
Each case is different but where the parents have been neglectful and have done all to turn their child into a bad citizen they should get their share of the blame,
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
23 May
In this case, they have been overindulgent. Most Indian boys are brought up like that because they are likely to get "dowry".
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@JESSY3236 (19949)
• United States
21 May
For some crimes, yes. Like a school shooting not long ago, the parents were charged too. His parents knew that he had mental problems and didn't care.
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@aninditasen (16389)
• Raurkela, India
21 May
Some juvenile don't obey their parents especially the rich parents kid. We have to get into the actual story. The juvenile should be punished to drink and drive. Youngsters nowadays drive and ride very recklessly.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
23 May
In this case it was a rich dad, and he indulged his son, by giving him the key even before the registration of the vehicle was completed....not only youngsters, even older people are careless. I got the scare of my life when I was driving in one way and there was this road joining in, and the divider, top it all, I just took a U turn and there was this uphill road, so cannot help but press accelerator. This man comes into the one way, because that U turn is there, instead of traveling up and turning. Saving petrol? Or time? Whatever...but people tend to be careless.
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@aninditasen (16389)
• Raurkela, India
25 May
@vandana7 People in India escape by paying a bribe to the police after reckless driving and so can afford to be callous.
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@GooglePlus (3831)
20 May
I am happy Vanny is not a Judge as of now. Else Even Aravind Kejariwals parents and family member would have been in jail for his crime.
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@vandana7 (100282)
• India
21 May
If I was wrong about it, would the Juvenile's parent be arrested today? LOL Everybody knows that juveniles tend to be hasty and adventurous. It then becomes imperative to keep a watch on their activities. Most RICH / WELL OFF people leave their kids in the hands of some caregiver or nanny. Nannies dare not correct the child, else the child will tell false stories about them, and they could lose their jobs and career too, as references are very important in such professions. This results in children becoming wayward. Having children imports the need to devote time in their upbringing. The present case highlights the parental neglect, which needs to be punished. As I told Judy, every life costs the nation. Consider proportionate cost of food, clothes, medicines, education, transport, healthcare, law and order, etc. In addition, there is potential earning cost involved of younger people. All that is lost. My estimate is, such cost per life of educated person in India is about 2 crores.