What's in a name?

@JudyEv (338433)
Rockingham, Australia
October 13, 2024 1:52am CST
The photo has nothing to do with the discussion. My last discussion was about the family of Joseph-Ignace Guillotin wanting to change their name. This made me think about other names that are a bit unusual. Vince and I often say to each other I wonder how he/she got her name. Names were once associated with the occupation of the person so Smith for a blacksmith or Baker for a baker. We heard two unusual surnames at the brass band celebration that we went to which caused us to look at each other with the unspoken question ‘How did they get THAT name? One had the surname ‘Younghusband’ and the other surname was ‘Junk’. Sometimes I’m quite glad my surname is Evans.
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@Shavkat (139249)
• Philippines
13 Oct
I think the most reasonable thing to change names is to protect oneself from criminals.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
Yes, you're right.
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• Ahmednagar, India
13 Oct
@Shavkat, Well, is that really one of the logical reasons? That could be. But the reason itself sounds a bit strange to me.
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@AliCanary (3212)
14 Oct
A lot of Eastern European immigrants to America in the 19th century got their names changed FOR THEM (whether they wanted to or not) at Ellis Island because immigration officials couldn't pronounce the names as spelled or spell them as pronounced. A name like Szymkiewicz might get changed to Simmons. Also some immigrants just changed them themselves to fit in better. Jewish names like Shmuel and Moishe became Samuel and Morris, for example.
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• China
13 Oct
Here we make much of deciding on a name,but it isn't associated with the occupation of the person or their family.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
The European custom is to the surname (last name) of the parents. When a woman married she would take the surname of her husband but that isn't always the case now.
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• China
14 Oct
@JudyEv Here a married woman still has her original surname,but her kids normally take the surname of her husband.
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@LadyDuck (470441)
• Switzerland
13 Oct
I am glad of my short family name, the one of my husband is longer, but in Italy women keep their family name, while in France they take the surname of their husbands.
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@LadyDuck (470441)
• Switzerland
14 Oct
@JudyEv - All Italian official documents show the family surname of the women. In the past it was mentioned "married to" and the surname of the husband. Now it is no more mandatory.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
Here, most Causacians take their husband's name but that has been slowly changing and just about anything goes.
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@wolfgirl569 (105008)
• Marion, Ohio
13 Oct
Would love to hear the junk story
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@wolfgirl569 (105008)
• Marion, Ohio
13 Oct
@JudyEv I is.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
It just seems so strange - very unusual.
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@Fleura (30099)
• United Kingdom
13 Oct
Lots of British names are place names. Often I have only realised this when looking at a map. For example the well-known miners' leader Arthur Scargill - originally named after a place in Yorkshire I figured when one day I saw Scargill on the map. My partner has a friend called Zara Bird-Wood which seemed odd until I spotted Bird-Wood in Shropshire.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
Years ago, our aborigines were often treated very badly by station owners in our far north. They were appointed surnames by their masters so you have names like Dingo, Wheelbarrow, Mailman, etc.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
I just came across another one - Kneebone.
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@Fleura (30099)
• United Kingdom
13 Oct
@JudyEv You would think they could just drop those names - did they?
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@anya12adwi (8297)
• India
13 Oct
Here people change names according to name numerology or keep names as per their chart astrology! Celebs do change their name too!
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
Do you not take the last name of your father? That is the common thing here.
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• India
13 Oct
@JudyEv Yes, we do! But also many people have two names dropping the father's surname!! I am one of them!
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@snowy22315 (179488)
• United States
13 Oct
I always thought it would be better to get stuck with last name like Fink. Junk would be pretty bad too.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
Someone suggested it might be Scandinavian and pronounced differently which would make sense.
@abhi_bangal (5187)
• Ahmednagar, India
13 Oct
The very first thing is that I have never heard the word "surname" from someone else living outside of India. I thought the word "surname" was "wrongly originated" in India. And that is the reason I never tried to dig deep into knowing its etymology. But after you used the word, I feel it's the correct word. But I am really surprised after hearing those two surnames - ‘Younghusband’ and ‘Junk’. With all due respect, ‘Younghusband’ is at least ok, but ‘Junk’ goes a bit distance, isn't it? I have followed various sports like cricket, football and baseball etc. But I don't remember to have read "Younghusband" and "Junk" as any player's name. Or maybe I am not able to recall anyone with that name even if they do exist. Anyway, it was a good exercise with a couple of new names and some addition to my general knowledge as well, hahaha
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• Ahmednagar, India
15 Oct
@JudyEv History is really interesting. When we go back and see, we will find the ancestors of all of us to be the one and same. So, Scandinavians becoming Junk is the same as what we have seen name changes here.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
Someone thought 'Junk' might be Scandinavian which could be correct.
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@Juliaacv (50820)
• Canada
13 Oct
It is interesting to search the origin of a name. I just searched the origin of my maiden name and am a little surprised by the results, as it claimed that we were once great lords and sometimes kings. I find that a bit humorous given the fact that we immigrated to Canada during the potato famine and came across as very poor immigrants.
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@Juliaacv (50820)
• Canada
13 Oct
@JudyEv I searched it, you should too.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
My maiden name was Candy. I wonder how that came about.
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@AliCanary (3212)
14 Oct
@JudyEv like John Candy? My guess it's a derivative of the French name Candide, which means "white" (Latin candidus).
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@rakski (120025)
• Philippines
13 Oct
Weird names there
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@rakski (120025)
• Philippines
14 Oct
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
Yes, they're a bit different.
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@Ronrybs (18933)
• London, England
13 Oct
I once came across a chap whose name was Smelly. I didn't believe it and he showed me ID, Still not sure he wasn't pulling my leg
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
I know a Greg Smiley but that's a bit better than Smelly.
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@Ronrybs (18933)
• London, England
14 Oct
@JudyEv He was the only one I've ever met!
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
15 Oct
@Ronrybs All the rest changed their names!!
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@LindaOHio (176191)
• United States
13 Oct
Interesting. I can't imagine where Younghusband and Junk came from. Have a good day.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
They are particularly strange names I think.
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@porwest (89044)
• United States
13 Oct
I'll happily stick with Bauer myself as well, although in German it means "farmer," which I am hardly one of. I can barely plant a seed let alone grow it into anything worthwhile. lol I can see some names needing a change. Hitler comes to mind. Who would ever want that name? There's a funny joke around here, "George Washington was the first president of the United States. What was he the last of?" The answer is: The last white man to ever bear the surname Washington. Oddly, it's true. I have never known a white guy with that last name but I know a LOT of black men who have it. I have no idea why.
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@Fleura (30099)
• United Kingdom
13 Oct
I wonder if that's true here? Washington is a place in the north of England.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
That's a strange story about Washington. I guess way back maybe your ancestors were farmers. Mum's maiden name was Wiese which I was always told was German for 'meadow'.
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@porwest (89044)
• United States
13 Oct
@JudyEv I think they were and that's how our name came about. I am no farmer, let me tell you. lol
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@Beestring (14458)
• Hong Kong
13 Oct
Those are really strange names.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
13 Oct
I thought so too.
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@AmbiePam (91718)
• United States
13 Oct
I’ve always felt bad for people with last names like Roach. Ugh.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
Yes, that would be a bad one.
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@BarBaraPrz (47061)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
13 Oct
I can make a guess how the name Younghusband came about... distinguishing between father and son with the name Husband...
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
That's probably correct. Certainly sounds logical.
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@allknowing (134992)
• India
14 Oct
Most Parsis here have their surname related to their ancestral occupation I was named after my paternal grand mother
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
It was common in my time to be named after a favoured relation or friend.
@RasmaSandra (79231)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
13 Oct
When Latvians first arrived in the US there were many problems with odd sounding last names and even first names, Guys called John were Janis in Latvian which could be boy or girl etc,
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
That happens here too. You can't tell by the name if a person is male or female.
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@TheHorse (217647)
• Walnut Creek, California
13 Oct
I don't really like my name, except for Horse. I often wonder about names. The Indians (native Americans) made naming their children pretty easy. At least that's what my Piute friend, Two Dogs Screwing, told me. The trees in your photo remind me of hiking in the Berkeley Hills.
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
I've heard that joke! I think some of the Asians call their sons Number 1 son, Number 2 son, etc.
@AliCanary (3212)
14 Oct
I wonder if "Junk" was pronounced "Yoonk" and was German or Scandinavian. Almost all Japanese names, by contrast, are place names, not occupations - Ishida means stone field (rice paddy), Kawaguchi means river mouth, Takashima means tall island, etc
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@JudyEv (338433)
• Rockingham, Australia
14 Oct
That's interesting. I knew a jazz musican named Bent Persson. He was Scandinavian.
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