Harry and Squatters' Rights
By Judy Evans
@JudyEv (342225)
Rockingham, Australia
November 13, 2024 6:16pm CST
The photo is mine, showing a shack which housed an Australian hermit at one time. Last night, we watched Hampstead on Netflix. Until the end I hadn’t realised the film was based on the real life story of Harry Hallowes (c.?1936-2016), also known as Harry the Hermit.
Harry was born in Sligo, Ireland and eventually set up a makeshift camp on Hampstead Heath in London. In 2007, he was awarded title to a half-acre of land on which his shack was situated, claiming adverse possession (squatters’ rights) because he had lived there for over 12 years. In the end, it seemed the property developers who were so anxious to get possession were unable to develop the land due to a law forbidding construction on the site.
The film had a romantic interest which I think was totally fabricated. However, we enjoyed the film overall. The lead roles were played by Brendan Gleeson and Diane Keaton.
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22 responses
@vandana7 (100609)
• India
14 Nov
I disagree with squatting. It was an ancient law...its reasoning was, if the property is left vacant for long, unsocial elements can start to live in it. In addition, the property fetches no property tax, while the facilities and amenities like sewer connection and water connection continue to the property. These need periodic cleaning and repair, which does not happen. Any damage to such infrastructure can lead to pests and other rodents..not to mention consequent diseases. That was the reasoning. In ancient times, they were valid. Lots of small and big skirmishes and wars were around back then, and generally, people who flee become wary of returning. Womenfolk are usually victimized by the victors. So people used to pack whatever they could and flee leaving their properties behind. Now, there are water boards and municipal corporations so such squatting does not make sense. They can penalize the owners and collect hefty charges. If the squatter has taken care of the property then owners may be called upon to pay some amount to him. Other than that, there is no justification for squatting. Squatters may compensate the owners some, and take it, if owners have bad memories associated with them. Taking the properties free of cost....just because a person couldn't or didn't return in time...is unfair.
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@shaggin (72280)
• United States
14 Nov
@JudyEv a cousin of mine mowed a field for like 15 years then took the guy to court and won the land since he cared for it that long. I don’t think that’s fair. My husband says if we pay the taxes here long enough and take care of the land it would legally be ours after a certain amount of time. That’s a rotten way of thinking when it was my grandfathers house given to my mother who has always let my kids and I live here. I can’t imagine taking her to court to own it if she doesn’t want us to have it.
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@vandana7 (100609)
• India
14 Nov
@shaggin Yes, it is disrespect to the owner of the land who paid registration fees, and possibly taxes for a while...government can always show it as receivable...and charge penal interest compounding it so that people take care of their properties and pay taxes.
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@allknowing (137872)
• India
14 Nov
I do not remember when it was the last time I watched a movie. Those long hours bother me.
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@JudyEv (342225)
• Rockingham, Australia
15 Nov
@allknowing Not for me. I find most of them very 'unreal'.
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@FourWalls (69085)
• United States
14 Nov
Yeah, they always have to stick a romantic interest in there.
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@JudyEv (342225)
• Rockingham, Australia
15 Nov
We watched Woman at War at the Film Festival a couple of years ago. I must check if it's on Netflix. It's an Icelandic/Ukrainian film. Some of the films made in other countries are really enjoyable and quite different from the usual run-of-the-mill ones we usually watch. NZ has some great films too.
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@aninditasen (16501)
• Raurkela, India
14 Nov
What's a hermit's life in your country? In India most hermits living in seclusion can tell about the future and some are into faith healing.
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@aninditasen (16501)
• Raurkela, India
16 Nov
@JudyEv I see. Here in India hermit totally has a different meaning.
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@freelancermariagrace (28690)
• Philippines
14 Nov
Some films based on true stories include romantic elements that are completely fabricated. This may be because filmmakers want to make the story more interesting, even if it didn't actually happen. Hehe
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@vandana7 (100609)
• India
14 Nov
I dislike it when they fabricate things related to history or religion. Audio visual media leaves indelible impression. Children watch those movies and get lasting impressions. Quite often import hatred.
Only one side of the story is narrated, and the protagonist is portrayed as an extremely virtuous person.
While making films, if I want to show that some person was bad, I will magnify the bad otherwise, viewers may be able to dismiss it. The character has to fit in their mind as bad. In real life, issues come about slowly. Therefore, the impact is not as severe.
To give you an example, what the films do is, add excess salt in the curry so that you know it is salty. For discerning audience, it is not a big deal. For more fragile minds, that works as a catalyst in driving them towards fanaticism or ideological alignment. That can be dangerous at times.
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@GardenGerty (160996)
• United States
14 Nov
Quite an interesting bit of history.
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@vandana7 (100609)
• India
14 Nov
We had horrific exoduses in our country during my lifetime. One was Kashmir exodus. The Kashmiri Pandits were targeted. One Girija Tikku was brutally cut in wooden saw mill with the machine. In the second instance, there was genocide against the Sikh community...
At such times, people do leave their homes. They also have unpleasant memories associated with the properties. It is unfair that the person who takes over their properties be allowed to get it without compensating them. Its like saying...ok you suffered emotionally, ok...now you suffer financially too.
I rest my case about adverse possession.
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@RasmaSandra (80812)
• Daytona Beach, Florida
14 Nov
Sounds interesting and glad you enjoyed the film, Hey, the man who inspired Crocodile Dundee down under where you are was Latvian, Take a look at this,
https://theculturetrip.com/pacific/australia/articles/crocodile-harry-the-man-who-inspired-crocodile-dundee
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@LindaOHio (181931)
• United States
14 Nov
What part did Diane Keaton play? I know her movies very well. Have a good day.
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