Have you considered the possibility that the 2024 presidential election was stolen?

@TheHorse (224785)
Walnut Creek, California
February 26, 2025 9:25am CST
I have watched a couple of interviews with this fella. He is convinced that the 2024 election was stolen by our current "president." He is a statistician, and I have taught statistics for years, so I get what he is saying. But I am not 100 per cent convinced. If 4,000,000 ballots went missing, primarily from minority voting districts, would it have been enough to swing the election in Harris's favor? What are your thoughts? Even if Harris won, it does not negate the fact that almost half of voting Americans voted for Trump. That's what scares me the most.
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@Ghostlady (1648)
• United States
26 Feb
Could be...I mean we KNOW the 2020 election was stolen...but Trump DID win the popularity vote this time around. I am thinking it might be because he told people what he wanted to do, and all we got out of Kamala is how bad Orange Man was and word salads. Parents in America tired of the Govt. telling them how to raise their children, and what medical procedures are allowed without parental consent. People tired of being fined or arrested for saying the wrong pronoun of someone that doesn't look like who they SAY they are. No..actually this is one election I feel like was NOT stolen..it is the first election in a while where voters spoke up and made a difference.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
LOL! I bet you dollars to doughnuts there are still people out there that believe the 2020 election was stolen. If the US had to waste American tax payer dollars to prove that claim was fake, why aren't they doing it again? Sometimes I think Democrats are obsessed with "doing the right thing" to point of being wimps.
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@sallypup (63370)
• Centralia, Washington
26 Feb
@Ghostlady You don't think that folks are being harassed for saying the wrong thing now? Interesting.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
@sallypup I would think that many are.
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@LeaPea2417 (37683)
• Toccoa, Georgia
26 Feb
I don't think it was stolen. But I think Trump voters have been lied to about many things.
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@LeaPea2417 (37683)
• Toccoa, Georgia
27 Feb
@TheHorse for some weird reason, my phone is saying my browser doesn't support the video you posted. So, it looks blank. Could you just tell me the name or send me the link to the video in the comment box so I can view it?
@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Feb
Did you watch the video? I am not firmly convinced, but I did research the numbers on black and Latino voters this morning. It moved me in the direction of believing what the guy said.
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@wolfgirl569 (113641)
• Marion, Ohio
26 Feb
It would not surprise me at all
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@wolfgirl569 (113641)
• Marion, Ohio
27 Feb
@TheHorse But the ones in Congress right now don't seem to care about any of that
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Feb
@wolfgirl569 Maybe they'll do away with the Department of Education! Wait. .
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Feb
Did not the Founding Fathers say we need an INFORMED populace for Democracy to succeed?
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@JudyEv (349351)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Feb
That would scare me too. Trump has a lot of support.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Feb
Do you think he still does? I sense that there are a lot of people in the US who are frustrated with themselves and their lives. It makes me sad.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Feb
@JudyEv I wish more Americans were better informed. "seems to have a lot of supporters on here"
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@JudyEv (349351)
• Rockingham, Australia
27 Feb
@TheHorse As you said, half the people voted for him. He still seems to have a lot of supporters on here.
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@Bensen32 (28244)
• United States
26 Feb
I mean depends on who you listen to elections were stolen or cheated in some way since what....ever or at least since Obama LOL I mean can we really trust the system at all?
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@Bensen32 (28244)
• United States
26 Feb
@TheHorse I thought they did every year LOL
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@Bensen32 (28244)
• United States
1 Mar
@TheHorse I of course have no proof just my belief that it happens more than we would think.
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@Bensen32 (28244)
• United States
3 Mar
@Ghostlady I would agree with you. I mean we have to show ID for a lot of things why not voting too.
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@porwest (98483)
• United States
26 Feb
There are no indications of that, and I don't say that because Trump won. I say that because there are literally no indications, unlike in 2020 where there were numerous questions.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
Do you see why I question his conclusion? Not ALL of the missing votes were for Harris.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Feb
@porwest Jim, you are spending entirely too much time in fantasy land. I suggest getting back to making songs. I am teaching some of my students Miles's All Blues this week. It's not that hard to play.
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@porwest (98483)
• United States
26 Feb
@TheHorse What missing votes really, though, that were CAST? Supposedly Biden got 81 million votes, the highest number of votes ever recorded in history for a president. The bigger question is if there were potentially 6 million more votes available to Harris, how come she didn't get them? It begs a few thoughts, really. Perhaps the votes Biden won with ACTUALLY never existed. Thus, it confirms 2020 was stolen, or at least more heavily points to the possibility. Was it that the 6 million extra votes could not be cast fraudulently in this election because more eyes were on the election? Did they (the Democrats) have to simply be more careful? So, maybe they THOUGHT they'd win anyway and didn't need to cheat to win because they felt they'd done a good job sending Trump into the dumps? I mean, I still go back to looking at 2020 vs. 2016. Trump had OVERWHELMING support growth into 2020, when he received 11 million MORE votes than he did in 2016, and still lost? That seems off to me, which was just ONE reason I questioned the results. If Harris' votes were more in line with what Biden SHOULD have gotten, it becomes clearer that Trump would have won in 2020. The question in 2020 was where did all these extra votes come from that Biden won with? When you look at 2024 you have to ask, where did all those extra votes GO? We know we have a gap of just over 3 million votes between 2020 and 2024. We can only assume 2 million of the 6 million went to Trump because he received at least that many more votes in 2024 than he received in 2020 (and let's keep in mind, Trump has never lost a single vote in any election and has consistently GAINED votes), and the other 1 million stayed home OR... As I said before, NEVER existed. It seems rather clear to me that 2024 presented itself as more "clean" than 2020 because the numbers are more consistent with what we would expect, especially going back to Trump's ever massive increasing popularity. In 2016 Trump won with 63 million votes. In 2020 he lost with 74 million votes. In 2024 he won with 77 million votes. But still, in 8 years he GAINED 14 million votes. Maybe Trump's win is not the historical and amazing comeback we are calling it now. Maybe 2020 was simply not a clean election and 2024 just put things back to normal.
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@BarBaraPrz (49083)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
26 Feb
Certainly I've considered it. Too many people were publicly stating that they woud vote for Harris.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
I wonder why there is no investigation this time around.
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@BarBaraPrz (49083)
• St. Catharines, Ontario
26 Feb
@TheHorse Because your dual fuhrers wouldn't like the result?
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
@BarBaraPrz That just could be it.
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@youless (112914)
• Guangzhou, China
27 Feb
I haven't heard so. On the contrary, I often heard that Trump said his 2020 election was stolen. I really don't know. I just hope that USA is still one of the best countries in the world and its election shall be fair. There shall be solid proofs if one claims the election is stolen. We can't just say it is stolen because we don't like that one as the President.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
27 Feb
When the 2020 election was thoroughly investigated and no tampering was found. The 2024 election has not yet been investigated.
@snowy22315 (186821)
• United States
26 Feb
Hmm, that would be interesting if it could be proven.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
The guy was careful about presenting facts and figures. But I am still not 100 per cent sure that the missing ballots would have "swung" the election.
@FourWalls (72795)
• United States
26 Feb
No, it wasn’t stolen in 2000, 2020, or 2024. 1960, on the other hand….
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
Heh. Daley was a powerful man in Chicago.
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@sallypup (63370)
• Centralia, Washington
26 Feb
Musk would have the knowledge or and the money to mess with the computers and data. Yes I have wondered about this.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
I hope there is an investigation.
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@lovebuglena (45754)
• Staten Island, New York
26 Feb
I did not hear about four million ballots going missing. And this election definitely wasn’t stolen.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
As you saw in the piece I linked, it may have been. But we can't be sure.
@NJChicaa (122074)
• United States
26 Feb
Of course not. It is only “stolen” when Trump loses. Never when a Republican wins.
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
Why were tax dollars wasted on an investigation in 2020 but not in 2024?
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@Kandae11 (55977)
26 Feb
Wow! - so many ballots went missing , how?
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@TheHorse (224785)
• Walnut Creek, California
26 Feb
That's what an investigation would reveal. Why is there none?