If you are non-religious how do you determine your morals?

United States
December 2, 2006 9:51pm CST
If you are a member of a religious group your morals, ethics and values are usually derived from the beliefs of your religion. But, if you consider yourself to be non-religious then how do you determine right and wrong, good and evil, etc.? It would be my perseption that one who is non-religious would take bits and pieces of organized religion that they find to be acceptable and adopt them to be their own; and what they find to be contrary to their idea of acceptablability would then be thrown out. Am I right?
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@hcprasad (1012)
• India
3 Dec 06
my dear, morals, values, ethics,good & evils,right or wrong everything is taught by parents and elders including teachers. Religion is a set of beliefs which is made for the benefit of society in general. Hence if you have the basic understanding of living through your parents and eldgers, that is more than enough. If you become a commodity of a religion, you may be thrown out when you become useless to that religion. This is only in case of Muslims. Rest of the religions are democratic
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@xpress (68)
• Philippines
7 Dec 06
Hello: If you believed in God then God will show you the way to know him and his purpose. I suggest do not become religious if you don't feel positive about it BUT i feel we human have a thirst for purpose in our life, how we get here and where are we going. The bible beautifully, answers all these things and may add more meaning to your life that you may not be interested not only on your morals but on the wonderful fuutre that awaits those who will know God thru the written word. Reading it more often is a big step.
• United States
3 Dec 06
If you're right and morals, values, ethics, etc come from our parents and if your parents are non-religious, how did they decide?
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@not4me (1711)
• United States
3 Dec 06
I'm sorry but I have to say...this is a silly question in my own mind. I'm atheist. That does not make me a bad person or, like a satanist or something. My morals are derived from my intelligence and common sense. I am kind, helpful and ethical, open-minded, creative, a great mom and that all comes naturally. You are putting way too much thought into it I think. Either you are a good person or you aren't - with or without religion.
• United States
4 Dec 06
I apologize if you think this is a silly question though I think if you understood my motivation behind the question that perhaps you would rethink your reaction. There are a lot of people on mylot with different experiences, religions (or non-religions) morals, ethics, values and so on and so forth ... but there is also a lot of attacks from one type of person to another. I believe this and you believe that and therefore, we cannot be friends or co-exist peacefully until you realize that I'm right and you're not. What if we took a step back and tried to understand the other person? What if we were able to ask open, honest questions about where the other person is coming from. The result would be that doors to communication would be opened. I know where my morals come from and I base my life on those morals. I don't understand where your morals come from, so I have a hard time understanding who you are and where you are coming from. (Note that the "your" is meant general for a non-religious person). If we can better understand people who are different then ourselves we will be less likely to attack beliefs that are different then our own. People are so afraid to ask questions any more because they think people will think they are dumb or ignorant or opposed to thoughts that are not their thoughts. What if we decide that we care about people enough to get to know them. What if we are free to say, "I don't understand this, could you please explain it to me?" And then we could dialouge about our beliefs apart from fighting and discord. Then maybe you wouldn't hate me and I wouldn't hate you and then my children wouldn't hate your children and your children wouldn't hate my children. I am just trying to gain understanding instead of making assumptions. There is nothing silly about that.
@crabby1 (304)
• Australia
3 Dec 06
A lot of religious fanatics commit the most unforgivable crimes against humanity. How could they possibly think this behavior is correct. We may have been created in God's image but he must wish he had never bothered. They disgust me.
@kush12 (312)
• Australia
3 Dec 06
RELIGION DOSE NOT COME INTO IT TREAT OTHERS THE SOME WAY YOU WANT TO BE TRENTED.YOU GET BACK WHAT YOU GIVE OUT.ALL THAT I CAN SEE OF RELIGION IS THAT IT BEENS ABOUT DISCORD WITH ALL THE PEOPLES OF OUR WORLD. WITH RELIGION THEY ARE NO MORALS,ETHICS OR VALUES. LOOK BACH ON OUR HISTORY AND TODAY RELIGION AND WAR GO HAND IN HAND.
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@crabby1 (304)
• Australia
3 Dec 06
I agree with the old saying "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" This is the motto I respect. What all of us realy want is a fair go
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
3 Dec 06
I do not belong to nay religion and i think that my mom was the one who taught me what´s right and wrong. She is also not religious and i guess her mom gave her her morals.. You might be on to something in collecting some bits and pieces from diffrent places though1
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@loopie (123)
• United States
3 Dec 06
I agree with marie, you can have morals without having a religion its part of human nature. Your morals are taught to you from infancy its your duty to carry them on in adulthood.
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• India
3 Dec 06
i am an atheist..i dnt believe in god or religion but i know what is right and what is not the first thing that i think about is 'would my action hurt anyone?' and if the answer is yes then i'm doing wrong..i may still do it but i know i'm doing wrong (thats probably the equivalent of deliberate 'sins' for theists) this is the main thing - dont hurt anyone - physically,mentally,emotionally,spiritually..anyway
@ssh123 (31073)
• India
3 Dec 06
I am religious-minded person and my religion has time-tested code of ethics to be followed in life. It has been followed for generations and with slight modification in tune with the time (with no superstitutions), I love to follow those. Without these code of ethics, there will be anarchy. People need guidance from time to time. I firmly believe in having a teacher (guru) who guides us constantly.
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• India
3 Dec 06
you are kind of correct, its non just bliving in a religion i mean how many of use actually follow our religion 100%, its about listening to our heart our mind and our consence, We all know there is some super natural power there and i hope we are all keeping him happy.
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• United Kingdom
4 Dec 06
So what you're saying is that if you didn't have religion to tell you what to do then you wouldn't be a good person?
4 Dec 06
I think morale choices are more emotional than anything. I did not have a very religious upbringing, I was taught what is right and wrong not on the premise of religion but on the effects it can have in life. I would not steal, because it’d make the owner upset. I would not kill because it would end a persons life, and effect people around them. I would not cheat because I’d hurt the person I’m with. It’s human nature, not religion to want to avoid bringing harm to another person/animal.
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@estherlou (5015)
• United States
4 Dec 06
Whether or not we are religious, we are taught right from wrong from childhood, 1st from our parents and then from rules and regulations in place within society and laws that govern our lands. In the US, the founding fathers of our constitution were all church-going God-fearing men who used the Bible as a basis for how to live and to interact with others, so "in the beginning" there was a religious belief.
@sharon613 (2321)
• United States
3 Dec 06
by being a good spouse and parent
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• United States
3 Dec 06
How do you determine what being a good spouse and parent is? How do you define good ... what if your definition of good conflicts with your husband's defination of good? How do you check yourself?
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• Australia
4 Dec 06
Good logic there, Imadriscoll. There must be a standard for our beliefs. Most respondees here actually quote (in essence) the words of Jesus Christ and act on them, yet call Him a liar in other ways.
• United States
7 Dec 06
I think that religion is man made rules how to worship God, and you can do this and that. No faith on the other hand, is a personal walk with God. And, if you fall into this area, you will know exactly what is right and wrong, as His spirit will let you know, as you pray.
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@samsonskola (3357)
• United States
3 Dec 06
I don't think you have to be "religious" to know the difference between right and wrong, or to have good morals, etc. I think there are many people who are good at heart, and who are very loving and ethical, even though they do not follow a particular religion. A lot of people can be good people and don't have to be religious in order to be that way. It is still a question of how you are brought up...and there are a lot of organized religions that have taken bits and pieces of other religions and formed their own religion..in fact, that's how most different sects came to be. To me, though, that has no bearing on whether you are a good or bad person.
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• United States
4 Dec 06
I'm not saying that religious people are moral people and that non-religious people are not moral. That is not the basis of my question. I'm asking where morals and ethics come from under the assumption that religious people derive their morals from their religion.
@Padonba (686)
• Italy
3 Dec 06
By my conscience and mi etic, i don't think is difficoult to understand, everyone know whats is right and what is wrong freely by religion
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@Darkwing (21583)
13 Dec 06
That's a very good comment. It's a pity more religions don't live and let live instead of laying down the law that their God is the only way to righteousness. Freedom of thinking is what changed my path, and I am happier now than I ever was following the Shepherd, like just one of the other sheep. I know where I'm going and I don't need somebody to show me, or tell me that I'm doing it wrong, because I do what is comfortable and feels right for me. I appreciate your response. Be happy. :-)
@vinaykant (812)
• India
4 Dec 06
I am non religious but i belive in the god and i do not think only a religious person have morals, I belive in nature and rules of nature which is the real god, id i do not braek any nature rule (natural things & thoughts) than evry thing fine.
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@shaaaanth (322)
• India
3 Dec 06
Dont confuse religion with morality. How can u say that the acts of a non-believer are immoral? Morality is subjective with respect to place & time.
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• United States
3 Dec 06
Wait a minute ... I didn't say that the acts of a non-believer are immoral! I asked the question how does a non-religious person determine what is and is not moral. There was no accusation whatsoever. I am trying to develop my understanding of what people with a different belief system than myself believe. I am not making any judgements, I am wanting to understand apart from my preceptions.
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@loudcry (1043)
• India
4 Dec 06
Morality has got nothing to with religion. It's another matter that religion relies heavily on the concept of morality. The rights and wrongs ,must be decided by individuals independently. Religion is a way of life,and was formulated to suit the exiting conditions of the yesteryears. For all practicle pourposed religion has no role to play in today's society.
• China
4 Dec 06
it is really a hard question.you know,i would determine my morals acoording to peoples 's suggestion aroud
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
3 Dec 06
I am not overly religious, I determine my morals by deciding what society in general would view as acceptable.
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• United States
3 Dec 06
Religiousness and morals dont neccesarily come together. They are mutually exclusive. I'm agnostic, so I believe in secular morality. There are many religious leaders high up there in society commiting atrocious immoral acts, so being religious means nothing to me.
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@cpesper (51)
• United States
3 Dec 06
I was raised in a non-religious family, so religion-derived morals never entered into it. And yet, we are good people. I think what we didn't learn directly from our parents we picked up from society. Truthfully, it's nothing I really ever thought about. Things for the most part seemed either right or wrong; I didn't need anyone to specifcally tell me so.
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@teenal (1400)
• Dublin, Ireland
3 Dec 06
i do onto others as I would like done to me and alyways try to help wher I can.