Independence in marriage

hearts - love, marriage
Australia
December 7, 2006 4:55am CST
How important is it to you to have your independence, even when you are married?I know many married people who demand their independence, including separate bank accounts. I cannot understand this. Marriage is about union, not division. Marriage is about sharing, not rights. Marriage is about "ours" not "mine". Surely everything should be in joint names, with joint ownership.
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@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
9 Dec 06
I agree with you on this but I did have my independants not to the extend of own Bank account even though now I wish I had but my Circumstances where he turned into a different Person as soon as we married for 2 years he kept up a great front I am not going to go into details but I held it out for 21 years and then I realised I was wasting my Time and live trying to make it work I always worked and I learned to do a lot of things on my own as he was not interrested in helping and if I wouldn't have then I would not have survived these last 5 years lol But yes what you are saying is what a marriage is suppose to be
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• Australia
9 Dec 06
Thanks for your comments.
@rajhet (60)
• India
8 Dec 06
it depends on your beliefs, what your meaning of independence in your life, if someone loves you and married you then he / she gots some rights to your life also. so everybody has to study his / her parter's demand, beliefs, love. if you feel something wrong then discuss with your partner, take patioens and give enough time to understand you better according to my view for husband and wife allthing should be shared, at the name of independence you cant live separate with each other,the success of marrige life requires so many compromise at both sides and stability in marrige life is essential for the childrens thank you
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• Australia
8 Dec 06
Thank you, rajhet. I believe that marriage requires a lot of give and take and working together. Standing on one's rights will not achieve unity.
@AndreaM76 (1164)
• United States
8 Dec 06
cloudwatcher you are so cute with your koala! Anyway,it's the same for all that is wrong in this world today. Lack of trust, Selfishness,and lack of faith. God is being taken out of so much so morals are going downhill more each day. God Bless.
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• Australia
8 Dec 06
I totally agree that God and His ways are being omitted from considerations of morality these days. It is so much "Well, I believe ..." or "I'll do it my way". I sometimes wonder what the world will be like in twenty years time and I'm pleased that I probably won't be around to find out, but I fear for my grandchildren. I also believe that this is the prime purpose for the failure of so many marriages. God intended a complete union, not two individuals desperately trying to maintain their independence, as I see so much in counselling. God does bless, and I know He will continue to do so. Thanks
• United States
8 Dec 06
We have been married 13 years and share everything. We have never had "his" or "hers" and just do everything together. We work from home so for the past 5 years we have been together 24/7 and it is great. When one person wants to do something the other person doesn't care for, they still do it because that is what marriage is - doing things for your spouse to make them happy and they will do the same for you. I do think a couple should know how to do their own things but everything should be joint ownership and nothing hid.
• Australia
8 Dec 06
Complete agreement here. Thanks for sharing.
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• United States
8 Dec 06
I agree but unfortunately I think society has ruined that for the younger generations. My mother had a seperate accoutn from my father and she says her money is hers and his is his. I do not understand it because my husband and I share everything but then again he is for the most part really old fashioned.
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• Australia
8 Dec 06
Good for himk and I'm sure you'll have a happier life because of it. Most old-fashioned values are best.
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• India
8 Dec 06
I'm still a bachelor but I feel Independance in marriage is very important. If you don't the space u need it will lead to a unhealthy married life or even a break up. But... whatever u do never hide that from one another. There should be no secrets in marriage. You can have two seperate accounts but what u use the money for is wats important.
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• Australia
8 Dec 06
You're entitled to your opinion. Thanks for sharing. I agree there shouldn't be any secrets.
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• India
7 Dec 06
In marriage or anythingesle... Independence is very important...Too copromising, controlling and dependent to each other create conflictions... Marriage doesn't say that you have leave all your likings 'n' dislikings of your unmarried time... There should be mutual understanding between two... You are getting your second half in your life... it doesn't mean that who is coming in your lfie he or she has live on your way... When your both hands activities different then how can be your spouse same... One has to accept other's liking dislikings and care for that.... As far as finance is concerned, they can have joint account on the other hand they can retain their own accounts also... They can manage budget mutually... They are together, they are made for eachother, they luc eachother but luv doesn's say to leave your freedom....
• Australia
8 Dec 06
Thanks for your reply. I agree there is an enormous amount of give and take in marriage. It is true that opposites attract and where this is so, there is even more give and take necessary. Surely, these matters are quickly addressed and each adjusts to the other. While some things might be rather frustrating to the other party, we love "in spite of" and realise that it works both ways. Where finance is concerned, I can see no reason whatsoever for separate accounts.
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@Avichail (694)
• Indonesia
11 Feb 07
Dear cloudwatcher, I think maybe from the title of the discussion can lead people on to think that it is about being too dependent in negative ways, but it's good because it gets people intrigued =) I agree with your notions and I believe you're not thinking about unhealthy dependant. Being raised in a generation whereby prenuptial agreement is almost like a must, it's by God's grace that I'm made understood more about being one in marriage. After all, isn't a woman is taken from a man? That they're actually one. God who puts them together in the first place. But because of sin, it then takes a prenuptial agreement to secure each person's interest in marriage. I believe if God is not the center or the tie that bounds a marriage, being one is the most ridiculous idea for a marriage. Thank you for bringing up this discussion, we should have more like this to teach generation after generation about the true value we must posses. God bless you, cloudwatcher, for being His channel here =)
• Australia
12 Feb 07
Thank you for your comments Avichail. I certainly agree that when God is honoured in the marriage and Christ is the Head of the home, that marriage has a solid base. There should be no thought of "mine" and "yours" but the two are one in every way.
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@lissaj (532)
• United States
7 Dec 06
Independence is very important whether or not you are in a relationship. It is part of who you are as a person. Yes, marriage is a union, together, but everyone needs some alone time, their personal space, time to hang out with their friends. I don't agree about the separate bank accounts, I think that is a bit extreme, but I would never give up my independence for anyone. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.
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• Australia
8 Dec 06
I agree about needing time to oneself and the other things you mention, but I don't see this as "drawing the line" or giving up independence. My husband and I share everything and are dependent on each other, but we still have our own interests and do our own things. I would say we each fulfill each other and personally I think to be independent would be a backward step for me. Thank you for your contribution. I wish you a happy Christmas and a fulfilled life.
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@hm1177 (1222)
8 Dec 06
me and my partner don't have joint accounts but we still share everything. I don't see why just because you are married you should need to lose your independence. Surely nobody wants to spend all their time with one other person no matter how much you love them.
• Australia
8 Dec 06
I don't think being dependent means you have to spend all your time together, but I do believe marriage is a sharing of everything. I have done a lot of marriage counselling and I have found that demanding independence is one of the biggest problems in marriage.
• Anguilla
8 Dec 06
we all should have some sense of responsibity whether or not you are married
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• Romania
7 Dec 06
pinguin - a pinguin marrige result!!!is it nice?
marrige means cuple!!!you can't be so independent when you are married!!
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• Australia
8 Dec 06
Very true! Not if you want to get the best from marriage, anyway.
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@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
7 Dec 06
Independence is very important in a marriage. I see too many marriage breaking up because each becomes too controlling and dependent on each other. When you enter a relationship you are an individual, with ideals and a personality, and the relationship is not supposed to stifle who you were before the relationship, but rather compliment those aspects. As a military wife, I see many young wives who have never had the chance to live on their own, who have gone from mom and dads rules and regulations right into married life. They fall into the habit of being overly dependent on their husbands. Some do not pursue careers, or have ever worked a job, and have only high school education. Then something happens and goes wrong in the marriage, many will stay in the marriage miserably because they have no means to survive on their own, and they are quite frightened to take the step out of the bad marriage. This is why independence in marriage is so important. Each person needs to know that they can take care of themselves as well as any children they bring into the world. You just never know what can happen in a marriage that may put an end to the union. Of course there should be mutual grounds and sharing of common aspects of the finances. Like in my marriage we have a joint account, but we each retain the separate accounts we had before marriage. Other than that everything else is pretty much joint. It just works, and I like knowing that if for some reason things don't work out, or something happens to my spouse that I have something to fall back on.
• Australia
8 Dec 06
JC 1969 thanks for your comments. What you say makes a lot of sense, but I still can't see the sense in having separate accounts. Surely EVERYTHING in marriage is shared. Day to day expenses are taken for granted and any "extras" or big purchases are discussed and mutually agreed. I just can't understand the need for a separate account, but maybe it has something to do with the mutual respect and love my husband and I share. Nothing is "his" or "hers" but it is all "ours".
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@shyam4uall (1002)
• India
7 Dec 06
School days - School days
Independence is the birth right of all.After marriage as u say it is the mixing of souls so I think after marriage the level of independency should be lowered but its always safe to keep a better independency should is required to stick together both of them to maintain their marriage life and life happily...But many may think the other way...
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• Australia
8 Dec 06
Thank you for your input. Personally I am very happy that my husband and I are mutually dependent on each other. It has worked very happily for 46 years.
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@mcbota (2125)
• Romania
8 Dec 06
greece - a very nice place
Independence doesnt means to sleep in diffrent beds or really not sharing the money together.I think you need independence in marriage coz we are made as free individuals and sometimes in some ordinary problems we need to act without being asked why this or why that.I think independence is good in small things in marriage not in big things where we need to give hand one to another and make things go better!
• Australia
8 Dec 06
Thanks for your comments. After many years of counselling people in marriage break-ups, I believe a mutual dependence on each other and a sharing of everything - which doesn't mean living in each other's pockets - is one of the main ingredients of a happy marriage.
@ntony9 (491)
• United States
8 Dec 06
This is very important in marriage, sometimes you need to have your own space and enjoy your life with friends.
• Australia
8 Dec 06
I have my own space and enjoy my life with friends. I don't see that this means my husband and I can't be dependent on each other and share all things in common. Thanks for sharing.
• China
8 Dec 06
i agree withyou,marriage is about understanding with each other but not the rights .but sometimes money has to be separate,only in different conditions
• Australia
8 Dec 06
Thanks for your comments, but I still can't understand the need for separate bank accounts.
@misskatonic (3723)
• United States
8 Dec 06
I think *some* independence is needed - hey, everybody needs their space! - but if two people are going to keep every aspect of their lives separate, what's the point of getting married? I can understand some things not having joint ownership - like if each person has their own car. And I can see some instances for seperate bank accounts - like my mother is horrible with money and has problems controlling her spending, so she doesn't have access to the bank account. But in most cases, you're right. Marriage is about sharing and joining two lives together.
• Australia
8 Dec 06
Thanks for sharing. I still think that in an ideal marriage everything would be shared, but there are probable exceptions.
@shyamj (86)
• India
8 Dec 06
see, independence is very important to everbody its a basic right. but when u marry it is a mutual understanding of both the partners. both should give space to each other. then only their life will be interesting.
• Australia
8 Dec 06
My married life has been "interesting". It has been extremely enjoyable and fulfilling and we shared everything. We are dependent on each other and we are both dependent on our Lord and we have missed nothing from our dependence. Thanks for your opinion.
• United States
8 Dec 06
I am an old fashioned wife, my life revolves around my husband and kids. But I think a certain amount of independence is vital to your own happiness. I do have my own car, my own bank account. I have been divorced once and learned the hard way that I have to protect myself. We have no secrets though, he knows hiw much money I have, I balance his account for him. We share expenses in whatever way works best at the time.
• Australia
8 Dec 06
Whatever works for you. Thanks for sharing.