Teachers overstepping bounds
By 4monsters4me
@4monsters4me (2569)
United States
December 9, 2006 5:32pm CST
I'm not sure if I am over reacting or not but this really bothered me this morning. We were getting ready to go out to breakfast and my oldest daughter (who is 6) said, "do you know why my hood is like this? My teacher washed my jacket for me."
My first response was, "there's a washing machine at school?"
Then I looked at her coat. The hood had this fluffy white fur all the way around it. Now it is ruined. It specifically says on the tag to wash the hood separately. The coat can be washed in cold water, gentle cycle, no bleach, tumble dry low. The hood is hand wash and hang dry because of the fur. The teacher tossed the whole thing in the dryer and the fur melted and clumped together. It looks horrible and the hood is ruined. Well it is wearable but it looks awful. We paid good money for that coat and for the first time since my daughter was 18 months she had a brand new, nice, winter coat with matching snow pants, hat, scarf and mittens. I was hoping to pass this set onto her sisters when they got bigger.
I was really mad after I realized what the teacher had done. For one she had no right to wash my property. I suppose she was only trying to help but it is none of her business if my daughter's coat is dirty. I have tried washing it and it didn't help so I didn't bother with it again.
I am really upset about this but don't know how to approach her teacher on the subject. My husband says he is going to call on Monday and complain about the teacher overstepping her boundaries and ruining a $30 coat. I just don't know what to do. We have so little for our kids and so little of that is nice stuff.
37 responses
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
That was my first question too, when my daughter said her teacher washed it. I was like, since when do they have washers at school?
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I guess the school has one some where. I have no idea why. It is a small town. The school is small. There are 400 students in Kind-6th grade and 400 students in 7th-12th grade. They are all in one building but it is divided into sections. There is a lot I don't understand about it. I have never gone to public school (I went to Catholic schools) so this is all new to me.
@brendalee (6082)
• United States
9 Dec 06
I believe something should be said to the teacher. More than likely she meant well but you would think she would have been smart enough to read the label. Most coats require special care. I would ask to talk to the teacher but be calm about it. I'm sure she might even offer to pay for it. If it was the other way around and your daughter ruined something in school, I'm sure they would be asking you to pay for it. By the way, I looked at your profile(yeah,I'm nosey) and I saw the pictures of your kids and I want to tell you that you have adorable children.
@lissaj (532)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I agree, the teacher should be talked to. I would explain to her what you said here. She will probably offer to pay for it, and if she doesn't, I would take it up to the principal. If she was going to wash the jacket, she should of at least had the courtesy to read the washing instructions.
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I do think she meant well, but it kind of felt like a slap in the face, you know. Like she was saying I didn't know how to care for my daughter. Her clothes are (almost) always clean, lol. The other day she got dressed quickly and was in her coat when we left. I never saw what she was wearing until she got home. She had on jeans covered in sidewalk chalk (from the day before) and a shirt she had worn 2 days earlier that she had spilled her lunch on. I think she hurried to get her coat on so I wouldn't tell her to change. I was mortified to think she went to school like that.
Then on Friday my husband took her to the bus stop because I wasn't feeling good. I picked her up to find she was wearing a red t-shirt (that was a bit too small), bright pink pants and orange shoes. I just rolled my eyes.
@Weasel_Sponge (1069)
• Canada
10 Dec 06
Perhaps your child's coat was dirty from a school activity, and the teacher didn't want it to be sent home like that? Even though he/she may have meant well, I can understand your frustration. I guess you should approach the teacher by kindly stating that although you appreciate the effort, the hood of the coat is now ruined. Like someone else mentioned, she may offer to pay for a new one or for it to be fixed. (I've fixed the hoods on my coats when the fluffy faux-fur gets matted and yucky looking, but if you're not into sewing, perhaps the teacher would pay for the repair?) At least he/she will learn to ALWAYS read labels on garments from now on! Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
@Polly1 (12645)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I don't have much to add about the coat thing. The teacher was probably trying to help. I do have comments about your website. How wonderful, your kids are adorable and look so happy. You and your hubby look so happy. I really enjoyed visiting your website and reading about you. I wish you and your family a long, healthy happy life together. Cherish what you have and never take it for granted.
@crystal8577 (1466)
• United States
9 Dec 06
Ouch. I can see why you are upset. I would bring it up in conversation. I would thank her for washing the coat & then ask her to please not wash any more of your childs belongings. I don't know why she would not have looked to see what the directions were before she washed it. I would mention that because of the hood you now have to replace the coat.
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I don't think it HAS to be replaced. It is wearable but it looks so awful now. Sadly the color she has is no longer available. I found the coat and snow pants at Wal-mart last year and the hat, gloves and scarf at Target (same color--woohoo). Oh and I finally found the boots at another Wal-mart. It is a matching set. The first time she has had a matching set since she was too and some one gave me a nice hand me down suit, hat and scarf.
You can see the coat at my website
http://jennickels.tripod.com
It is on the first page on the bottom left.
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
Thank you. And thanks to the person above that said the same thing. They are cute aren't they? I don't know how that happened. Me and their daddy aren't that great looking but they all turned out beautiful, teehee.
@bobmarchiano (15)
• Germany
10 Dec 06
why did you send your child to school with a dirty coat it must of been really bad for the teacher to have to wash it.SOME PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN PARENTS ARE YOU ONE OF THEM.Suck it up and take care of your child.
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
Do you have kids? I would have to wash her coat every single day after school for her to go to school without a dirty coat. And there was nothing wrong with it when I sent her to school. I doubt you read all of the discussion before posting this. I do take care of my children.
@smehta (13)
• United States
10 Dec 06
It's understandable that a ruined coat can make you upset. There must be some reason for why the teacher washed the coat. I was surprised that the school had a washing machine. It's very possible that there is a very good story behind why the teacher washed the coat. Before jumping to conclusions talk to the teacher. There may be a reasonable explanation behind what happened. As for not wearing the hat and mittens I know that as a teacher I'm telling my 18 preschoolers that they need to take out their coats, scarves, hats, and mittens when we go outside, or to the playground. Often the children will tell you that they don't have gloves or a hat. When you have 15 minutes total on the playground before dismissal, you are looking to see if everyone has a coat that is zipped. Some children will even hide their coats inside their backpacks and say that they don't have anything warmer than the sweater or sweatshirt they have on. Hopefully after calmly approaching the teacher everything will work out.
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I would think if the teacher sent home a notice stating they needed hats for recess she should at least check and make sure the kids have on their hats. All the 1st graders have recess at the same time (as I gather). Someone should stay inside with the kids that aren't properly dressed (whether because they forgot their hats or refuse to wear them). There are only 42 kids total in the 1st grade (in 3 classrooms) and there are some teachers assistants, I think. There has to be someone somewhere that can watch the kids instead of sending them out in 35 degree temperature with no hat or scarf on (or coats zipped up).
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
She goes to a public school.
And the hat thing--I don't get your point. My child takes her hat and scarf every day but she doesn't put it on for recess (it is on her when she gets on the bus in the morning--I make sure of that). But if a child forgets his for whatever reason (maybe they left it on the bus--my daughter has done that before) I don't think it is a good idea to let them out for recess. What if they get sick? Who is to blame then? The parents who have no control over what happens after their child is on the bus or the teachers who saw the child wasn't properly dressed for going outside but still let them?
There are many reason a child might not have the things they need for school. They could have really forgotten them (things get hectic in the morning--my daughter for got her library book on Thursday). They could have left stuff on the bus in the hurry to get off. They could be lying and say they don't have it. They might not have ever given the notice to the parents about needing something. Who knows what kids do sometimes. You can't always blame the teachers, but you can't always blame the parents either. Somewhere in the middle are the kids and they should take responsibility too.
My daughter takes her warm clothes to school in the morning. I have no control over what happens once she is on the bus. It is up to her and her teacher to make sure she is properly dressed to go outside. Almost every day when she gets off the bus she has no hat, scarf and her coat is undone. We live 3 houses from the corner but I still make her zip up and at least put her hood on for the walk home because I don't want her getting sick. I expect the teachers to be looking out for my children while they are there, not ignoring her health.
We live upstairs from a preschool and I am constantly shocked to see them taking these 3-5 year olds out for a walk in winter. It is 40 degrees and half the class has no hats on and no one is zipped up. I would be livid to know they took my child out that way without first informing me that they would be walking every day no matter the weather and to make sure we sent appropriate gear. Not to mention that these 3 teachers take 15+ students for a walk, including crossing a very busy street. I have a hard time managing my own 4. These teachers each have 5 or more kids to keep track of (one day there was only 2 teachers taking them).
@vhmehta (621)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I dont know which type school you use whether its privat or public. But I cant beleive public schools have washing machine. Staying in class for two kids who did not bring what they are supposed to bring is ridiculous. If parents or children were informed to bring some things they should. There are 85% of students bringing there things. Kids need more than love... When going in public you have to be dressed properly. In US it is very common to blame teachers when parents dont take enough time to prepare kids for school. You can go to any authority you are not going to get success. Good luck. I dont think even if school authority will talk to such complains.
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I agree about reading the tag. That was the first thing I did before I washed it. I had figured already that the hood needed to be taken off because of the fur.
This is the picture that is on my website. See how nice and fluffy the hood is? Who would put that in the dryer?
@sanell (2112)
• United States
10 Dec 06
well yes I would probably mention to the principal that the coat was ruined at least the hood of the coat for a teacher taking it and washing it. It would have been better for the teacher to just send a note saying that perhaps the coat needed to be washed but be thankful it was just a coat and not the psychology of the child, being touched or molested or something.
@scooter1024 (1243)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I would definately talk to the teacher about it. She definately had no right to wash that coat without your permission. Show her what happened to the coat and show her the cleaning instructions. She should offer to pay for a new one but that dont mean she will. I would definately inform her she is not to wash her things again.
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I think I will send a note with my daughter on Monday. They have an assignment book that they bring home every day with notes from the teacher in it. I think I will put a note in that explaining that she ruined the coat. It plainly said on the tag (not the tag on the next but the one on the side) that the hood should be washed separately. I don't really want her money, just an apology. There was no mention that she had washed the coat at all. I didn't even realize it until my daughter said something this morning.
@epizzahut (2078)
• China
11 Dec 06
I see how upset you are.but one thing you should make sure first,the teacher meant well,you couldnt deny he/she is a good one, even though he/she ruined the coat. in my case this is the most important for your daughter, not that coat. sorry I say that.
@juicemilk (2283)
• Australia
10 Dec 06
I dont think the teacher has any business washing students clothes! Did she take it home and wash it? That's just weird.
I would definitely say something the her.
If she had any respect she should have told you once she realised she had ruined the hood!
@vmoore709 (1101)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I would be angry as well. Definitely call the school and complain. I would go as far as telling them that the teacher owes you the money for the coat since she took it upon herself to wash it without reading the instructions. Good luck!
@emarie (5442)
• United States
10 Dec 06
you should just approach her clamly and explain the situation and show the teacher what she had done to your daughters cost and probably ask for her to replace it. just explain what you told us about letting your daughter have nice things, the teacher probably was just trying to do something nice and hopfully will pitch in to buy another coat for your daughter and also explain to the teacher to never wash your childs clothes...you'll do it.
@4monsters4me (2569)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I've actually never met her teacher in person. I have only been in the school twice. When we registered her for Kindergarten and when she had her Kindergarten Family day. Every time they have some function at the school they schedule it for when my husband is working. I have missed all of her parent teacher conferences, open houses and on Thursday she had a music performance that we couldn't go to (my other daughter had a fever of 103.4).
@sharon613 (2321)
• United States
10 Dec 06
Alot of times, teachers feel they have no control over these kids so in order to gain some sort of control, they feel they have to overstep there boundaries.
@alecsing (445)
• India
10 Dec 06
Here in India, too, sometimes teachers overstep their limits. There have been cases of exploitation of children and beating of children here. I do not think this is good for the field of education
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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10 Dec 06
no need to aproach the teacher, go straight to the schools governing commitee what this teacher did was over step the mark and should be disciplined im not happy about this kind of thing at all, and yes i am a teacher
@chiquita1977 (1706)
• United States
10 Dec 06
if i was you i would call the school and explain to the principal what she had done and that she ruined her jacket a teacher had no right to do that.I think she should replace the jacket seeing how she has no right to wash your daughters coat in the first place.she was deffinatly over stepping her boundaries.
@sexymuma (1261)
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10 Dec 06
i think that you should take the matter to the head of the school,if the teacher had a problem than she should have notified you personnally,because at the end of the day all that teacher is,is a teacher what right does the teacher have doing things like that to your daughters coat,as long as you have love to give your children and they are happy thats all that matters.x
@RealityChecker (290)
• United States
10 Dec 06
I'm surprised at the teacher. Nowadays teachers err on the side of caution when it comes to interacting in childrens affairs. Yes approaching the teacher about restitution is good idea but perhaps you should discuss the situation with an authority figure at the school first.