Nurse Karen: Under Arrest
By claudia413
@claudia413 (4280)
United States
December 11, 2006 6:45pm CST
A nurse is on her way home from working the night shift in Texas. She lives 10 minutes from the hospital, but most of the drive is down a dark, unlit road. She sees a car behind her. Lights come on and she hears a siren. What happened? Read the story here: http://www.insideedition.com/ourstories/inside_stories/story.aspx?storyid=371
I just saw this on Inside Edition, and here are the tips to follow if you're afraid the car pulling you over may not be a real cop:
* Slow down, put on your flashers and wave out the window to acknowledge the officer.
* Look for a well-lit, populated area to pull over.
* Call 911 and ask to verify if it's a real cop pulling you over.
* After you pull over, just crack the window a slight bit, keeping the door locked. You can even ask for identification.
* If it's an unmarked car pulling you over, you can ask for a marked police car to respond. An experienced well-trained officer should understand.
These are great tips, and you never know when you might need to use them. Pay attention...I'll be testing you later.
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33 responses
@gifana (4833)
• Portugal
12 Dec 06
They are very good tips....I have one that might be considered as well. When I'm driving at night I keep my cell phone handy but partially hidden in position of Emergency 112 (911 equivilent). If, God forbid, I should have trouble like that or I was attacked, I would be able to push the call button and leave the call open so that someone on the other end would hear and the call could be traced. Just a thought!
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
Excellent information. You always have something good to add to a discussion. Thanks so much for responding. I'll remember your tip also.
@scorpius (1792)
• India
12 Dec 06
i agree with you.one should not just pull oper just becaue one hears a siren and all that.one should always be careful and double check to see if the car behind you is reallya police car.also in case of doubt please dial 911 or the police number of your country whichever it is.car mugging takes place everyday aand it is very easy!so please be on your gaurd!
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
Just remember, this woman was on a dark and desolate 2-lane country road, not a well-lit highway, and couldn't tell what kind of car was behind her. I hope she has a cell phone on her from now on. I sure would. Everyone needs to be on their guard today. Thanks for your response.
@LooneyToons (383)
• United States
26 Feb 07
Wow, how sad. I would of done the same thing that Karen did. There is so many of these type of things happening here in the city I live. Not being a real cop. The local police here have even told the citizens these tips. There was a lot of rapes being taken place here for a while before the person was caught and everyone was so afraid. All the women here were told so many things to do and some of the things you mentioned here is the same they have said. That is really scary to know that these type of things happen.
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
1 Mar 07
Yes, it is scary, and it does help to be prepared for different situations.
@estherlou (5015)
• United States
4 Mar 07
I can see both sides of this story, but I tend to think Karen's side was stronger. I can't imagine a policeman is going to think a 62 year old woman is a threat to society or someone avoiding arrest. She wasn't involved in a high-speed chase or anything. I think they were over-zealous for whatever reason. And refusing to believe her and arresting and handcuffing her is just riduculous! Weren't there any real criminals that night? The tips about calling 911 was great! I'll have to remember that one, but I'm very rarely out at night alone.
@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
4 Mar 07
I'm turning 65 in April and make a point of not being out alone at night. I don't see that well at night, so I limit my driving to the daylight hours. I loved those tips also.
@texasclassygal (5305)
• United States
14 Dec 06
That story is so sad, thank you for sharing. I feel sorry for the woman, I definitely think sometimes police can sometimes go over the line when their temper comes into play.
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@nzinky (822)
• United States
1 Mar 07
I'm glad it worked out okay for her because I knew a women who was murdered by a bougus cop....I would sure use the cell phone now but I try not to go out late at night nor do I drive much anymore....But those are good tips and the Honolulu Police also told women to do the same thing....
@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
1 Mar 07
Good tips that we can all follow and maybe save our lives. Thanks for your response.
@sunrisekn (1466)
• United States
12 Dec 06
It's a catch 22 situation. We want to be safe, but we also want to obey the law of land. Tough decision, I'm not sure that I would want to be the one that has to decide what to do. After reading the article and the tips, I now know what to do.
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@vipul20044 (5793)
• India
12 Dec 06
yes thats what
the first thing i have been taught to do is that even if a cop catches you or asks for something its always advisable to ask him for his id
Who knows that he might turn out to be a fake
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@lilttownmommie (1473)
• United States
12 Dec 06
I feel bad for this woman, but i would have done the same thing, I was in a similar situation once on a back road in Alabama, and because we had alot of people late at night acting as police and then robbing people and car jacking them (the most happened not even 5 miles from this spot the week before) I had a brand new Toyota, so i was really scared, I kept going for like 2 or 3 miles, and the cop got on the loud speaker yelling at me to pull over so I tapped the brakes a few times so he would no i was going to stop, I knew there was a fire department about a mile or so up the road so I kept going until I got to it, then when I did stop I made sure it was right infront of the station door so if something were to happen the dispatcher or someone would be able to hear me scream. It was a really county sheriff but with all that had been going on, and my car being registered in my 77 (at the time he was 77) yr old grandfathers name (he thought he was driving when he ran the tag lol) he understood my percausions and just gave me a warning, he was pulling me over because I had swerved and when he originally turned his lights on he thought i was drunk. I was only 17. I guess i got lucky when it came to him havign to follow me for 5 miles or so
@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
13 Dec 06
I felt sorry for her also. She did the right thing, at least part of it. You absolutely did the right thing, and I'm glad the deputy understood. Appreciate your input.
@tamra2 (259)
• United States
12 Dec 06
I have family in Kaufman, and I have driven the back roads in Tyler. It is COMPLETELY barren. Nothing around but trees and cows and no lighting at all.
I can understand the officer's frustration, but she did slow down. It had to have been obvious that she was not running away. Granted, for 6 miles they did not know who was in the car, but they had to have ran the plate number and realized the car was registered to an elderly woman/man. There was no reason for them to arrest her without listening to her explanation.
Unfortunately, some (NOT ALL) of the officers in the smaller rural counties can be on a power trip. Not much excitement going on usually, so a car that refuses to stop? They regress into an episode of "Cops".
I was pulled over once for having a tail light out. I had 3 young children in the car. I am also deaf, so I did not hear the siren. I did notice the lights in my mirror, but there was a delay of maybe 2-3 minutes between the time the officer turned on his siren and when I saw the lights. Once I stopped he did not even take the time to attempt to talk to me, just pulled me from the car, cuffed me, and sat me on the side of the road. He then had my children get out of the car, came back to where I was sitting, started yelling at me, and getting more upset that I did not answer. My son finally got him to understand that I could not hear him, he was acting too agitated for me to read his lips, and I could not respond properly because he had restrained my hands! The officer calmed down and became very nice then, but the whole thing just scared the heck out of my children (and me!).
I realize that the police have a job to do, and they put themselves in danger to do it, but sometimes certain officers can be a little too quick to resort to aggression.
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
That's the truth about some small town cops being on a power trip. I saw that when I lived in smaller towns in the Florida panhandle years ago. They would even stop a woman alone and ask for ID so they could get her address and then would contact her and ask for a date (and some of them were married). That happened to several friends of mine. I'm sorry for what you and your kids went through also, and I'm glad it worked out for you. I'm sure you all were terrified. Thanks so much for the great response. I'm giving you best response for it.
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
12 Dec 06
Thanks for posting this. I think the cop was a little out of line. I think he should have heard her out and then told her why he was arresting her. Did I miss it or was it not in there the real reason he was pulling her over in the first place. Thanks for the tips I will be sure to remember them.
@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
The cop declined to be interviewed for this episode on Inside Edition, so we don't know why he was trying to pull her over. I think he overreacted myself. He definitely should have heard her out and then given her those tips himself. Thanks for responding.
@chiquita1977 (1706)
• United States
12 Dec 06
I would deffinatly be very careful because alot of people try and pose as police officers when they are not especially to women and thats when they rape them ect ect so i would be extremlly careful especially at night and on a dark street that is why i always drive with my doors locked.thanks for the tips.
@Apple_Dumplingz (11)
• United States
12 Dec 06
I saw that and i think that the officer should have let her expalin w/o screaming at her the way he did! That was uncalled and if he would have shut up he would have udnerstood why a woman on a dark would NOT pull over! There are to many sicko's in this world and i think she did the right thing to bad the cop was jerk!
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
13 Dec 06
I agree with you. I think he could have explained things a lot better than what he did...maybe he's getting a refresher course in that now. Appreciate your input.
@wyrdsister (584)
• Canada
12 Dec 06
That is so terrifying! I can understand why this woman did what she did - you hear all the time about cases when people masquerading as police officers or service people invade peoples homes and hurt them. Wow. It's good that Inside Edition did this story.
Thanks for the topic!
~Wyrdsister
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
13 Dec 06
Yes, Inside Edition did all of us a favor by giving us those tips. I've seen reports on local stations where they give out tips on what to do if a supposed service person wants inside your home and how to protect yourself from being harmed. Wish I could find those tips now. Appreciate your response.
@toonatoons (3737)
• Philippines
12 Dec 06
thanks for sharing this. usually, when we hear a siren and we are being pulled over, you just don't think anymore. you just simply pull over. these are really helpful tips. thanks.
@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
Glad I had the TV on and heard the tips also. Thanks for your response.
@sirensanssmile (3764)
• Netherlands
12 Dec 06
It is sad that she was arrested and her face and all tat was on the paper for everyone in that small town to see. She must be a bit embarassed. I am happy though that they didn't indict her at the end. How sad. I can see why she would be afraid if she hadn't done anything wrong and was someplace in the middle of nowhere. I wonder why they tried to pull her over in th first place?
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
I'd like to know why also. I'm sure he had a reason. Thanks for your response.
@mygreyparrot (1461)
• United States
12 Dec 06
I couldn't feel sorry for her. Sorry. The cop was doing his job. The lady should have called 911 from her cellphone and spoke to the dispatcher. If she didn't have a cell (Most people do!), and really felt threatened..Then I suppose she had no choice. But the cop didn't know why she was running, what she might do, or even who she really was. He handled it as best as he could, and the charges against her were dropped. Btw, that was a marked police car with a uniformed officer in the story. I guess I feel strongly about this because my man is a cop..and I want him to come home to me at night. The cop got the situation under control before he, or anyone else, got hurt.
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
Thanks for giving us the cop's view. I agree with you to a point, but it would have been nice if he had considered she might want to get to a well-lit area, which is what cops are always telling us to do if signaled to pull over. The area she was in was very dark and desolate...no street lights; a 2-lane country road. I hope she'll now have a cell phone on her when she's traveling and will also know to signal that she's aware they're behind her. Cops have a very dangerous job and many times it is thankless, but I still think he overreacted a bit. I certainly hope your husband always makes it home safe and sound. I have many friends in law enforcement and I'm now wondering why this conversation never came up before in all our talks. I'm going to ask them. Thanks so much for your response.
@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
Good response. Thanks for your input to this discussion.
@wahmbrendamh (576)
• United States
12 Dec 06
I've used some of these tips in the past. I think that as women we can never be too careful. I would hope that the police would understand this.
@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
You and me both. Be sure to pass these tips on to everyone you know. It could eliminate a lot of problems if this happens to you.
@pennycan2 (251)
• United States
12 Dec 06
There are also numbers that you can call for each individual state for their highway patrol to respond. 911 only works if you are in your corresponding 911 area. I know in Louisiana our # is *577 in other states it is *77 or something similar. Check your State Trooper website to find the corresponding emergency response number.
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
12 Dec 06
That's very true. In Florida, it's *FHP (*347) and it's posted along major interstates, but not on 2-lane country roads. Very good advice. Thanks for responding.