Why do parents that can't support their one child have more?
By Metallion
@Metallion (2227)
United States
December 23, 2006 9:36pm CST
I am really confused here. You hear about it all the time and I am involved in a disagreement with someone on here doing it.
Why do parents that have a child and are struggling financially say "hey I can have another child if I want to". Part of being a parent is being able to care for your children financially. Please don't ask other taxpayers to end up supporting you if you have to get public assistance. I don't think it's their responsibility to help you have kids if you can't afford them.
Any parent (which I am) knows it costs a lot to raise a child, if you decide to have another child when you can afford to support the one you have currently or are barely treading water that way you are doing a disservice to your children by having another.
What do you all think? Do you think financial ability to support a child is something that should be considered before deciding to have one (or an additional one?)
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@tentwo67 (3382)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I don't understand this myself. I have one child only, although I wouldn't mind having a second child. I just won't have another child unless I have the means to support both the way I want to, which includes private school.
I would never generalize about any group of people, but I have been aware of a number of people on public assistance who have actually had additional children so they could collect more welfare, food stamps, etc, and I think it's a crying shame. The sad reality is that the people who are making the sane decision to not have children they can't take care of are most likely the better parents. The parents who are having the multiple children for whatever reason are often people who probably shouldn't have procreated at all.
I don't mean to sound bad when I say this, but I do think it's a tremendous responsibility (as well as quite a blessing) and I think it needs to be taken seriously by all who undertake this great thing.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Very good points, I think a lot of times for some reason people make the choice emotionally instead of based on finances.
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@jackpot (138)
• India
24 Dec 06
I agree with you.
But again, that is not always the situation. Do you know of any "very rich" family having something like 5 children or so.
Frankly I haven't.
Secondly, the "rich" couples do not always make the ideal parents.
Even the "rich" parents having 2 or 3 children cannot pay the proper and appropriate attention to their children, 'coz the are nearly always "busy".
So in such families, the kids tend to become "indifferent" towards society and also maybe "brattish" and want their way all throughout. Some other kids happen to end up in boarding schools and become ver good academically, but as far ideal parenting goes (for those who can afford to have multiple children), this is not the ideal parenting scenario!!
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@GardenGerty (160996)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I do know affluent families who have many kids, sometimes it is "so there, see what I can afford", sometimes it is a very good thing, they raise intelligent, moral kids who are blessing to society. We do view our kids as a reflection and extension of ourselves. I just hope we are reflecting a good self. I agree with many of your comments however. Not necessarily private school, it depends on where you live.
@mansha (6298)
• India
24 Dec 06
I think unawareness and lack of proper knowledge about contraceptives is the main cause. In India men still believe they willlose their manhood if they get vasectomy done and many in the interiors bellieve kids are god's gift and you should not interfere in the god's ways. Many women are scared to get operated too, sometimes women do want to get operated but their husbands or elders do not allow them to because of mythical beliefs about the whole issue. For them its just a matter of having two more hands to earn in the future.Here in India its believed a boy keeps the generation of the father going or keeps family name alive so to have one boy they do not mind having six daughters before that. WIth that female infanticide is also very rampant in the society. Baby girls are killed by covering their mouth with wet cloth or dipping them in the bowl full of milk after they are born and this is practiced till the family gets a boy born into them. SO female of the household is respected as per how many sons she has that way she never consents to go for birth control.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
That's a shame, we are in the 21st century it's amazing barbaric beliefs and actions like that are tolerated.
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@ItTakesAllSorts (4096)
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24 Dec 06
This is really awful if it is true. Why are females so disregarded, its the bloody man who can either make a girl or boy. Some practices which still go on today are barbaric.!!!!
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@Aali311 (6112)
• United States
24 Dec 06
There are alot of people that don't think twice about their financial situations before jumping in the sack, I don't know what it is, I guess they know they are going to get help from the government so what the heck, I don't see how they do it. I can't.
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@KIMBERLYC29 (267)
• United States
24 Dec 06
so that the people paying taxes can help support them and their child/children
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
25 Dec 06
well that's the result, question is ... is that the intent?
@mgmagana (3618)
• United States
24 Dec 06
yeah but that's not the question, it's about why do people produce children when they already can't afford them, every 1 falls into hard times, but if they already have their kids then fall into hard times then as long as utry to pick urself back up it's no 1's fault!it's reality!
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Right, I think you missed the point. If someone has one child already and is having trouble ends make, why in the world would they have another when they know they can't support them financially.
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@mgmagana (3618)
• United States
24 Dec 06
i agree 100% do not have kids if u can not support them! i know way too many people who do this way too often, and some who do it because the more they have the more welfare they will get! if u have one, and realize whoa this is expensive, DO NOT HAVE ANYMORE until u r financially stable! I can not stress this enough! i have a huge issue with this because ur kids suffer not u! ur kids r the one's growing up with nothing!
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
EXACTLY, this is about the kids. Because you know what... the ones doing it to get more welfare most likely are buying "bling" for themselves and not supporting the kids properly. This is only referring to those that view kids as a way to increase their welfare checks, not saying it applies to everyone.
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@EconKnowMix (858)
• Philippines
24 Dec 06
i do not know about the welfare
it seems we do not have that kind of
"checks" here in our country. But mostly
families belong to poor sector are the ones
who have a lot of children.
It is so sad but that is the reality here.
Hope our government will do something
about this matter. thanks
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
exactly, many of the people that do this also don't have insurance so the taxpayers have to pay their medical bills.
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@anne_143god (5387)
• Philippines
24 Dec 06
Yes I guess financial stability is very important to have another child for it is the parents responsibility to give all the needs of their child so they have to plan it if they are capable to have another child.
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Also the other issue is if the parents are under horrible financial stress it could affect their moods and attitudes while raising their child which could be a negative thing.
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@TFusion (31)
• India
24 Dec 06
Well, this case is horrible, spcially in my country:
Here, in peru, its in the third world rank so... its poor but im not :D well, 70% of peru is really poor and the really poor familys have like 8 children... and guess what they do...
THEY SEND THEM TO WORK!! Yes, its horrible to see a little child(5-8 years old) working in the streets just for getting cents...
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
25 Dec 06
I guess some of it is society's beliefs, but still, they have to raise that child until they are old enough, and as much as I hate to say it, I wonder how many make it to that age?
@chertsy (3798)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I think a person should be more than financially ready to support a child. They should also be mentally ready, and Phsyically ready to support a child. You can have all the money in the world and easily have a break down or have physical problems that would not benefit a child one bit.
But I see your point, why bring another child in this world when your not able to feed yourself, put clothes on your own back and a roof over your head, or for the child you have now. I have two children. I honestly admit my last ( and I mean last ) was one of those HELLO I'm here babies. A lot of families has these. But I wouldn't change anything in this world. My family has learned to adapt from a family of 3 to a family of 4. My husband works for the military, and when my youngest goes to school I will be looking for a job ( knock on wood ). Last time I said those words, wasn't long after I found out I was pregnant. Don't want to jinx myself this time.
I know what my limit is. In the beginning, I only wanted 1 and now that I have 2. That is my final limit. Anything over that I know would be pushing it. My physical health isn't like it used to be.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I understand what you mean, and I don't mean that financial concerns should be the only factor in deciding to have a child. Obviously as you said mental, emotional, and maturity issues are all keys too. But if you can't support a child financially there is a good chance the other factors will suffer as you struggle to make ends meet.
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@josan181237 (1204)
• Philippines
24 Dec 06
of course! don't make one if you can't afford to support one. there should be family planning.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
true, but some just refuse to participate in family planning and go off "I want" without using logic.
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@missjackie (1357)
• Ypsilanti, Michigan
24 Dec 06
A lot of parents are incredibly irresponsible. A lot of them are just doing it so they can receive a bigger welfare check every month.
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
A wouldn't say a lot, but I'm sure there are some that abuse the system and that's a shame because it will ruin the kid's life.
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@ItTakesAllSorts (4096)
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24 Dec 06
In the UK we have this as well. Some families are better off having lots of kids. They get social security, child benefits, all their rent, dentistry, school meals, clothes allowance, extra money when their kids go to college, etc paid for.
Alot has to do with education, and breaking the cycle of having kids and relying on state benefits. In many areas of the UK unemployment is high, most live on benefits and as kids grow this is the only life they know, so the cycle continues.
It is said that it is your right to have a child, but I tend to disagree with this. Some families need to take responsibility of their own lives and not rely on the government for handouts. If they did make it tougher for parents to claim so many benefits then maybe they would stop having more children. However, I certainly wouldn't want any child to suffer because their parents are irresponsible.
This is a tough one!!
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
One day governments will wake up and investigate welfare cases more closely and maybe the abuse will stop.
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I agree up to a point, you might not have everything. Part of it is knowledge of how to raise a child and sometimes you don't have that until you learn while parenting.
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@euniceeleanor (5966)
• Singapore
24 Dec 06
im with you, my friend..this question bugged me too...i joined this charity organization that help the poor...and it really bother me couple could actually have 5 children when they practically lives off those social welfare to give them food!
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I guess some people have their own version of logic, unfortunately quite often it results in other taxpayers helping to raise their kids.
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@sunita64 (6469)
• India
24 Dec 06
I agree with you that bringing up child is a costly affair. Sometimes another child comes by accident and in some religion this abortion is a sin. But I very strongly agree that when you have the financial capability to raise a child only then you should bring the child in this world other wise you are doing injustice to your children.
@sexysilver (928)
• United States
24 Dec 06
are you one of them? Because you seem about as sharp as a marble from the statement you gave.
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
well stupid might be a little harsh, better descriptions would be illogical or immature I guess.
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
I responded telling him to expand, no need to further insult him.
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@Goranimal (315)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Because there stupid, and the Gov. makes it easy for them by giving more and more financial aid, which comes out of my 10 thousand + in taxes i pay every year
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@megs85 (3142)
• Australia
24 Dec 06
Can I just ask how I got lumped in this sum when my partner pays more than that in tax per year? And we don't get the sort of financial assistance I think you are referring to- I get a parenting paymen, the minimum amount. As I have said in a previous post. So HOW are you putting me in the same category as a "stupid" "hand out seeking" pensioner that doesnt pay taxes and is supported by the government?
Good thing you pay taxes buddy, but so does everyone else so why does that make you superior?
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
Don't think it's right to call them stupid, maybe just not very informed?
@cutejhan18 (910)
• Philippines
25 Dec 06
maybe they not aware of consequences that they will through once they have lots of kids but they can't afford to have a better life for their kids. Maybe they need to attend some family planning lecture. They have a lots of kids because they are always together and have lots of time together than rich couples
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@Metallion (2227)
• United States
25 Dec 06
Well they should realize the consequences since they already have one they can't afford. Also it's not society's responsibility to pay for their expenses so they can have lots of kids together and have lots of time together while hard working people out there don't have as much time to spend with their families because they are actually working to support them instead of being lazy and having someone else support them!
@apostrofy (661)
• Romania
24 Dec 06
unfortunatelly in my country there are alot of people who born baby after baby so that their kids support them financially. i mean they born like 10-12 kids then send them to ask for charity. i think u all know what feeling u get when u see a 2-4 year old angel coming to u and saying "can u please spare some money? i'm really hungry... please" and u give them. their parents are right around the corner and it's a matter of time till they come and get the money from their kid to buy alchool.
it's really sad and i don't even wanna think what kind of life this kids live. but i'm sorry to say that these people cannot be called parents. when u become a parent u think how can u make a better world for u'r kid. provide him happiness, clothing, food, education, health care, emotional and spiritual proper development. if u cannot provide financial care for more than 1 or 2 kids, as much as u love babies, put all that love in the kids u already have, and when the time comes in u'r grandkids. u'r be a fullfilled mother.
@Metallion (2227)
• United States
24 Dec 06
The thing they fail to realize is they have to support their kids, before the kids can support them!
@apostrofy (661)
• Romania
24 Dec 06
funny u said that, coz it's not necessary about charity, but alot of countries (dunno if it's the case for usa too) give alimony for every kid u have until that kid reaches a certain age. some people only live on alimonies.
but this is not the case i think. even if u give birth with the best intentions in the world, and u work as hard as u can and struggle for u'r kids, take 2-3 jobs to provide them with all they need, what time will u end up spending with them? they need u more than they need anything else, and yet u fail to bless them with u'r presence. what's the point then? having x number of photos in u'r wallet to show them to people? concentrate on the one u have. provide food and care for him, and most of all, time. noone can buy time, and that;s the most precious thing in a world. u'r baby needs u. be there for him.