Do men have a "say-so" when a woman wants to have an abortion?
@prettypinkbug (437)
United States
January 7, 2007 2:37pm CST
I want to know what you think on this one. It is not a personal issue I am dealing with. I have discussions like this with my husband all the time, and this is one of our recent ones.
Does the man, who is assumed to be the father, have the right to influence the woman if she wants to abort the pregnancy? Does it make a difference whether they are married or not?
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@jennifer611 (2514)
• United States
7 Jan 07
I think if the woman is wanting the abortion and the man is wanting to keep the baby then the woman should let them man keep it.. I think it would be very unfair to murder a child that is wanted by the other parent.
I think its wrong to murder a child anyways but it would just be crazy to do it especially if the father is saying no. I think he should have as much say in his childs life as the mother. I dont think it would make a differance if they were married, if its the childs father he should have just as much resposability as the mom..
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@shywolf (4514)
• United States
7 Jan 07
I tend to agree with some of what the above poster said. If it is the woman who does not want the child and the man really wants to keep it, why can't she let him take care of it. IF the man doesn't want the child and the woman does, there is no way that the woman is going to abort the child just for his sake, I don't think. She would raise the child herself. So it could work the other way around, as well.
@ESKARENA1 (18261)
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7 Jan 07
men and women in a long-term committed relationship, like marriage for example, might want to discuss it, but ultimately it has to be the womans dissision
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@prettypinkbug (437)
• United States
8 Jan 07
I agree. It is her body after all.
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@kgwat70 (13388)
• United States
8 Jan 07
I would agree as well as the two should sit down and discuss the issue together and see how they feel about it but it is the womans decision since it is her body and she is the one carrying the child.
@medooley (1873)
• United States
7 Jan 07
wow, this has to be one of the stickiest subjects there is.
From a married point of view I believe that the man should have some say, just as the woman should have some say. Obviously the man can not force the woman to do anything, but to say that he has no influence on the woman I feel is wrong. That child is as much his as it is hers... the only thing that is different is that she has to carry it for 9 months and give birth.
And of course it gets even dicer if they are not married. How can the woman be sure that the man is going to support the child? Is he going to turn out to be one of those guys who says he will do everything for her but when push comes to shove he doesn't. Still like I mentioned above, he should have some sort of say, but he can not force her one way or the other.
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@prettypinkbug (437)
• United States
8 Jan 07
I think that it makes a big difference if the couple is married. There is a commitment there. If the woman is single, however, I don't think that the man has much say on the issue. My husband thinks that the man should help in making the decision no matter what.
@SageMother (2277)
• United States
7 Jan 07
I think the only difference should be if they are married. If the woman is not married to the guy, even if they live together, she should be the only one to have the decision. It would be nice for the guy to help pay for the medical care and be as supportive as he can manage, but in the end, it is not his body that has to go through all the changes, and it won't be him who might not beable to ever wear a swimsuit with confidence, once the body changes from having been pregnant, are there forever.
EVerytime a fellow looks at a model in swimsuit, his lady, who went through pregnancy and may have had her body change permanently, is insulted.
@dawn5679 (266)
• United States
8 Jan 07
I don't think a man has the right to tell a woman weather or not she can have one. I do believe that they should know though, After all it is their child as well and maybe they could possibly talk about the pros and cons and work it out like adults.
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@nayand (168)
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8 Jan 07
It is not who takes the decision. It must be a concensus between you two. Rather I would say if possible parents also should get their opinion. It is a decision where in the doctor also comes into picture. Need to take more of time and listen to every body. People who have gone for it and whi have not. Speaking to them for their experiences and then the two partners should sit down for many a time and decide. Trust that makes sense.
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@remaster74 (4064)
• Greece
7 Jan 07
Yes, I think they have the right to say something on it. If they feel they can help in they have to have an opinion. It usually gets in vain as women are the last ones to speak and decide, but I have seen some cases, where the men courted the women and the court obliged them not to abort the child.
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@mirage108 (3402)
• United States
7 Jan 07
Well if the man and woman are married then the Man should have an input it is his child also, and he should at least have an input in that respect.
if the man and woman are not married then the woman if she know who the father is should solsite imput from the prospective father. but the ultimate decision is the womans.
I am a male for one, and I do not believe in abortion. There are to many people out there that want a child but cant have one. The mother expecting but wanting an abortion should at least consider this first, and the only exception that I would go for an abortion is due to medical reasons to the mother.
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@Kscott (634)
• United States
7 Jan 07
Well, this is a good subject first off!! I have just recently read the newest Child Support Enforcement Agency booklet, that discusses guildelines for both sides of the support issues, and abortion is one of them...According to this book, if a man knows a woman is pregnant with his child, if DNA tests are appropriate for finding this out, the man can legally force the woman to have the child, and then take custody. Even if he assumes he is the father, and goes as far as finding out he actually is...he has a right to the unborn child.....now if the mother doesn't tell anyone,and he later finds out....then theres nothing no one can do. I personally think that it is a personal choice, for both men and woman, but we are dealing with a life here, so someone has to make a rightuous decision. The man should not force the woman to have an abortion, if she chooses not to....that can be avoided as well.....As far as them being married, if a married couple conceives the child and one doesn't want the child, I think that there are laws to protect the husband from an abortion he does not want......I'm not sure about the woman though, and for a case of adultry, well everyone should know then cause adultry is bad!! I dont think anyone should make a decision based on someone elses opinion, use the opinion to make your choice....dont be influenced
@Jusred (1578)
• United States
9 Jan 07
Determination of the DNA of the unborn child can only be done by Amniocentesis or Chorionic Villus Sampling (CVS) These procedures are usually done due to untrasound results, previous births of a baby with birth defects, esp after genetic counseling regarding both maternal and paternal findings, RH sensitization/incompatibility, etc..There is a slight risk of miscarriage with these procedures (1 out of 200), yet i have never heard of these procedures being done to determine a 'fetal Paternity DNA test'..Usually paternity is established after the child's birth, and with this discussion in regards to abortion, it is hard for me to see positive with possible outcome here~
@prettypinkbug (437)
• United States
8 Jan 07
I don't see how anyone can legally force a person to use her body for something that she doesn't want to do. Don't get me wrong, I don't think abortion should be a form of birth control, though I know some people use it that way, I just think that the woman has the right to choose what to do with her body. It is sad that some people can be so irresponsible.
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@estherlou (5015)
• United States
8 Jan 07
I won't even get into whether or not it is morally a good thing or not, but just reply to your question. A woman was talking to me at work awhile back. She has a son who has been in prison for the past 2 years. He got a letter from his wife with papers to sign giving her permission to get an abortion. So...apparently in Texas, the woman and the man have to both agree to the abortion.
@debbie4824 (118)
• United States
8 Jan 07
Did not know that, but I'm not sure that's fair either. The guy doesn't have to carry the child and if the father won't sign, will the state require him to care for the child?
@misskatonic (3723)
• United States
7 Jan 07
I think a man has the right to make his views known and discuss it with the woman, but the final say is the woman's. I don't think he should have any influence. But I don't believe anyone should be able to influence a woman into not having an abortion. the worst thing for a child is to be born to a mother who doesn't want it. And I don't think it makes much difference if they're married or not.
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@akosi63 (331)
• Philippines
7 Jan 07
Yes of course, he would be the father-to-be, he has the right equal to the mother-to-be, though it is the woman's body so she has more control over it so men should really monitor the pregnant woman to take care of the baby.
@debbie4824 (118)
• United States
8 Jan 07
This is such a tricky issue because it's about more than just morals or choices.
The mother clearly has the final say as she is legally the only one that can consent. However, the father of a child should have some rights. I would definitely say it should be a joint decision if possible but in cases where it isn't, unfortunately it has to be the mothers. She's the one who's most impacted by it.
The guy above who mentioned fiscal responsibility (I think Khris?) he's got a point. If a guy specifically states that he does not want the child, can he ethically be required to provide monetary support? Granted, he had a 50% part in making the baby but if the girl was the one who didn't want it, he wouldn't be able to stop her...
From a personal viewpoint, if I was pregnant and the guy wanted me to get an abortion, I'd be out of that relationship pretty quick and would keep him away from the baby. That's no life for a child, to find out that your father didn't want you. And there's not much future in that kind of relationship either.
@prettypinkbug (437)
• United States
8 Jan 07
But if the guy states that he doesn't want the child when she does that just makes him look like an idiot. He should have been more careful to keep this kind of thing from happening. Yes, I think guys should pay for the child even if they decide they don't want it.
@chiyosan (30184)
• Philippines
13 Jan 07
yes. i think he has a say on this matter too. because the baby is not the mother's alone. it cannot be made without a man... so unless the dad is not concerned or does not want to have anything to do with the baby, his decision must also be considered.
@nuttmeg (440)
• United States
8 Jan 07
I would think that since it's her body, she would have the final decision on the matter, and that it would boil down to whether or not their relationship continued if she kept the baby. However, I think one exception to this might be a weak-willed woman with low self-esteem who is with a man that might be overly-controlling, if not entirely abusive all together. I'm sure, in that case, he could scare or manipulate her into getting one.
@nuttmeg (440)
• United States
8 Jan 07
And I just realized that I misread the question haha. I do think that in a decent relationship, married or otherwise, a man would have some say or influence on whether or not she had an abortion, but that the final choice would be up to her in the end since it's her body. She'll do what she feel she has to.
@Lady_Vincy (1538)
• United States
8 Jan 07
They have no say so. That disission is completly up to the woman since it is the woman's body that goesthrough the changes. I makes no difference if they are married or not.
@ChipZ23 (1)
• United States
8 Jan 07
I believe that is incorrect. There are many side effects that can come from abortions, including possible miscarriage in the future. Oftentimes, these side effects do not weigh heavily enough on the shoulders of either man, or woman. If it was an accident, there are adoption agencies all over the world, and if you do not want to care for your baby, then someone who is incapable of having one would be more than happy to.
@unfathomedpsyche (858)
• Thailand
8 Jan 07
HI pretty pink,
My wife have an abortion 7 years ago, but of course it was not are intention to abort the child coz we really love to have a baby. In my opininon having an abortion depends on your current situation. If you and your husband is not financially stable at the moment and he may have some doubts if he could raise the child then you might think and consider. Other reason might be blamed for career priorities but mostly becuase of financial reasons.
@prettypinkbug (437)
• United States
8 Jan 07
I'm not in this situation myself, but thanks for giving advice. I just posted this question to see what people thought. I have two kids of my own and would like to have another soon.