A Christian Nation? Since When?
By misskatonic
@misskatonic (3723)
United States
January 8, 2007 12:08pm CST
Why do so many other Christians refer to America as 'A Christian Nation'? It was founded by Atheists and Deists, it was founded on the idea that there would never be a national religion and religion would not be allowed to influence the governing of the country, and the rest of the recognized religions practiced here outnumber the Christian population.
So how is America in any way, shape or form a 'Christian' Nation?
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38 responses
@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
8 Jan 07
The United States, like most Western countries have a mainly Judeo-Christian history, but has also laws that have been edicted without any religious connotation. The fact that it's a melting pot of various religions -- or lack thereof -- should blatantly indicate that it is in no way a Christian (or otherwise) nation. Like any 'normal' nation, it's a secular state and should certainly remain so.
@BunGirl (2638)
• United States
8 Jan 07
While I don't think America is a "Christian Nation," I do understand the reason SOME Christians think it is. While our forefathers may not have been Christians, they did ascribe to a Judeo/Christian ethical stance and used this world view to dictate the laws contained in our constitution. Also, the US has historically been a predominantly Christian society. It was not too many generations ago that many states still had laws restricting commerce on Sundays, after all.
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@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
This poster is 23. Maybe not old enough to remember the days when some were keeping their Sabbath holy.
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@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
I second the "thank you". I believe God has blessed us, as a country, because of the fact that we were founde as "One Nation Under God"... But, of course, that does NOT take away from the "And Justice for All".
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
8 Jan 07
It's not. It is a Democratic nation but it is not a Christian one not by how many mean that to be. Whether our founding fathers followed Christian beliefs or not is a moot point. They purposefully made sure that there wasn't a National religion. They didn't want the United States to become like England with its church. They wanted everyone to be able to follow their own path no matter what that path might be. The ones that claim it is a Christian nation are the ones who want to make the laws and government follow their beliefs and have the laws reflect their version of morality. They seem to forget that they are not the only religion in this country and that church and state are separate for a reason.
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@pvleroux (606)
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9 Jan 07
You refer so many times to the past. During times things change. I would not say they are a Christian nation but I believe there are a lot of Christians in the US. I believe that their leader is a Christian and the state follow Christian values. It is the only country that has God mentioned on their money. If you look ate Christianity, the US are the nation sending out the most missionaries and have the most evangelical churches than any place in the world.
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@comedyaddict (772)
• Canada
10 Feb 07
I think you made a very good case that American IS a Christian nation. What else would America have to do to be considered an Christian nation? It seems to me that you've covered just about every possible outward sign that makes any nation a Christian nation.
If you replaced the word Christian with the word Muslim in your comment, I think most people would agree that its a Muslim country... :)
@kfg20012003 (1037)
• India
9 Jan 07
as far as i know America is a secular nation,there is no point in saying or categorizing it as a christian or some other nation..the only point to say is people should live in harmony
@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
Wow! I guess you haven't been reading Bill O'Reilly's book, "Culture Warrior". Even if you don't agree with everything, you may learn a few new facts. This will help you in your debates and postings.
@redyellowblackdog (10629)
• United States
8 Jan 07
Perhaps, out of all the nations of the world, the USA comes closest in their minds to behaving as they believe Christ would have a nation behave?
Perhaps, an interpretation of history that is what they wish it was instead of how it was?
Perhaps, Christian voters comprise a large enough block of votes that the countries' leaders humour them as to this being a Christian nation?
Perhaps, a bit of all of the above?
@blueman (16509)
• India
9 Jan 07
the one obvious reason i can think of is that most of the white people are christians so people tend to believe in what they hear and see.
@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
so, you're blue, can you be a christian if you're not white? I know Black, Asian, Indian and other ethnicities, AND colors that are true Christians.
@Randync (544)
• United States
8 Jan 07
For a non Christian Nation it's funny that you swear on the Christian Bible in court. What would be wrong with being a Christian Nation? You are not forced to be one. And for the record I am not one. But I laugh at all the people offended by Christians. If they are right and we are wrong, while we are burning in hell they will be quite happy where they will be.
@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
As a Christian, I thank you for your true and witty response. You're right; we're not forced to be one. Christianity is a choice and even with the "label" many quote - end quote "christians" really aren't one.
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@salome23 (43)
• United States
9 Jan 07
I have never heard anyone personaly refering America as a Christian Nation.America was and still is a refuge for people who want to practice thier own religion,whether it be Protestant,Muslim,Baptist or whatever. Since the days when the European Countries would not let the people choose their own religion, it was catholisism or leave the country..Many protestants chose to leave and they came to America that's where the English told them, they had to go.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
9 Jan 07
Oh I have. If you want an example go look through some of the discussions around Christmas time and the ones upset about other religions being celebrated. They are many who state it's a Christian nation and have the right to have their holiday forced on others here.
@aquariancore (608)
• United States
8 Jan 07
While I agree with you on to an extent, but all of our Presidents have been a Christian of one form or another. On top of that just last week there was a national uproar because Keith Ellison of Minn. was sworn in on the Quran. It would seem that is the face we present to the rest of the world
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@misskatonic (3723)
• United States
8 Jan 07
But that doesn't make it a Christian nation, since the religion of a President is not allowed to influence the governing of the country. And the whole swearing in thing... I still can't get over that.
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@serene2 (278)
• New Zealand
9 Jan 07
There are a few here agreeing that America isn't a christian nation.
I was just wondering reading some responses cause it interested me.
Am I not right that on your american coin, it says, IN GOD WE TRUST.
Something like that.
Just food for thought.
What do you's make of that ten.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
9 Jan 07
Who said it was a christian God? There is more then one belief and thus more then one God.
@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
This country was founded on "Judeo-Christian" values, a lot of what the Old Testement is founded on. The Laws of Moses, AKA - The 10 Commandments. And, even if you're not a Christian or a Jew, many other religions and or groups of people follow these basic rules.
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
10 Feb 07
I suppose most people think that since christians are still very predominant here in the U.S. though their certainly are a load of other folks too..it's just more than five times out of ten, you ask a random stranger what they're religion is and they'll answer some variation of christianity. It's just how it is. It's like people've started a popularity contest over which religion was 'better' here in the U.S.
Squabbling over a power they never really had.
America is not in any way shape or form a christian nation. They think it is but it isn't..if it WAS there wouldn't be any hindus or islamic folk around..that's what that exclusive title claimsbasically..that christianity runs everything. *rings the incorrct buzzer*
@xParanoiax (6987)
• United States
10 Feb 07
Note I wasn't really trying to generalize Christianity..for the purposes of my post I was mainly reffering to the extremists and misinformed christians who tend to complicate and aggravate other people..even occasionally their fellow christians.
@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
A TRUE Christian is not a name ONLY. It IS a way of life. True Christians claim belief of forgiveness of a risen God and try to live the example He put forth in the Bible. So, you're wrong. It's not a name only. And, by the way, a lot of Christians DO practice.
@vanities (11395)
• Davao, Philippines
9 Jan 07
ive read also about that issue...well thanks for informing us all that america was founded by aetheist and deists..
@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
So, you think that is true? Or do you just believe what others post?
@itsjustmeb (1212)
• Canada
15 Jan 07
I honestly have never heard of people refer to America as "A Christian Nation", and if people are listening to that description, well then they need to re-evaluate the media.
As such , I don't see America as a Christian Nation... I wonder what America thinks of Canada?
@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
Then don't waste your time posting. Or, here's an idea, research it and then post you can make an educated contribution to this discussion.
@berlynn1975 (737)
• United States
9 Jan 07
Wow, you "know" so much! Congratulations. Read the Mayflower Compact (as I told others). Find out what the USA was founded on.