Artificial enlightenment

yes friend u are right meditation and yoga are enough to keep ur mind fresh

Hi, I like your topic. Did you try brainwave generator software before? If yes what about it?

Quite honestly, it's your decision as to how you gain your altered states of consciousness. It's not for others to tell you what is right for you. Personally, I would prefer to use meditation and traditional methods, but hey... if you want to use the stimulator, then go ahead, but bear your health in mind, and whether you can actually return from the altered states of consciousness with ease. Don't get stuck out there, my friend. Have a good method of grounding closeby. Good luck... brightest blessings.:-)

I couldn't really say, because I don't know very much about this topic. Anyways, I would like to specify, that the brain is something that shouldn't be meddled with. It's one of our main survival organs, and if you mess it up, then it's no turning back to normal...The best way would be the natural way: meditation.

I suppose there is no way to tell if the states you reach with this device are as intense and real as an enlightenment experience obtained after months or years of meditation and mental training. But I know that historically many Shamans, witches, druids, alchemists used herbs and mushrooms to obtain altered states. I would tend to think of the device as training wheels. Once your mind learns the path to that state of conciousness and has traveled there many times you will know the route. You can experiment by turning off the device and attempting to maintain the state for longer and longer periods of time. I have read about such devices on the Extropian Mailint List. Please tell me a little more about it Cost?, A phone number or website and whether it is working for you. If so could you describe the experience the best you can. I know such states do not translate easily into words. I have achieved what I believe to be enlightenment for short periods of time (less than 2 hours) on about 5 occasions but the experience has been devilishly hard to reproduce. The same method of getting there does not seem to work twice for me. Twice was with a brain wave sychronizer light and sound only nothing transcranial but the second time I had combine it with a second method.

Sure it is alright but then you take the risks associated with using such methods. The safest way is to stick with the traditional prayer.

YA THESE THINGS DO WORK AS OUR BODY IS FULL OF PULSE GENERATING POINTS MORE OVER ITS PROVED THAT IN OUR BODI ABOVE 10 VOLTS OF SIGNAL IS PRESENT

I had to join this discussion because that TMS was a new one on me. To answer your question you have to know what true enlightenment is for you. It is different for everyone. What you describe is not enlightenment by stimulation. They are two different things in my view. As for the TMS I'd like to learn more about it.

try at your own risk.. as i am a biotech student i suggest u not to use that.. coz it will vary your brain signals and u will be possible having heart attack or stroke.. so dear plz dont use those stuffs re

Day after day while you are using this thing you wont be able to leave such things.Then that will be a weak point and I don't love this.In my openion these artificial equipment can be used only by the persons with special needs,despite that these equipment must have side effects and in case that we don't know that effect doesn't delete its presence. I think you better use the mental training procedures to reach what do you want.

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its really nice

Something that puts magnetical smitulations in your brain.. Is that leagal? If it is could you give me a link so i could but one. How does it feel?

If possible i believe we should use as much natural way as possible.

That is a pretty abstract way of ataining enlightenment, but first one has to have a clear definition of what enlightenment is. I am sure eveyone has a differenty perception of enlightenment, and personally I believe that to be enlightened, one has to go through life and experience significant events and relfect on those events, and not depend on some gadget to attain enlightenment.

THE MAGNETIC RADIATIONS AFFECT THE HEALTH ESPECIALLY THE BRAIN

well i think its not right... but the ultimate and good reliable solution without side-effects is concentration...

prayer is a way of life... not technology.... you bvelive waht you believe and those feelings you earn by doing so.... you'lll never get the same feeeling if you use some mechanical instrument... the feeling of beeing part of something bigger than you can imagine is something that makes people wanna find out what is al;l about.... the true mening of life... not a part of a mechinery that gives you electric impulses... that can even damagte your brain

as far as you use techonology for enlightenment its perfectly alright you not doing anything wrong. i belive in one thing if your heart and your mind are clean of all bad thoughts then this is perfectly alright

Enlightenment and states of consciousness akin to Self - are beyond the mind. The brain is a physical receptor to thought and through senses you are able to cognise that. Even when in no-mind states, you will eventually come back to the physical mind and want to fathom what you experienced. Not an easy task cause there are usually no words to describe those experiences. WOW is good! Our main problem is the effects of thoughts and emotions. These directly effect our ability to get to these heightened states. A stimulator will only ever achieve temporary release of these emotions. It is only be working through and transforming these emotions that enlightenment can be achieved. The consistent blah blah blah of the mind, called chitta in sanskrit is what creates grasping within the head. I'm gathering that's what this magnetic stimulator is targeting? One problem you will have is that when meditating, or in a good state, this stimulator is very likely to pull you out of high states, if you were to get to them in the first place. When meditating it is really important to have a room that is clean and free of electrical impulses - so again this is not good. I can see that a machine of this kind is likely to do what anti-depressants do, temporarily relieve you from emotions and the constant chitta in the head. Enlightenment also is something to BE and is not just an experience in meditation. So unless people walk around with this machine on their heads, is it really enlightenment?