when is the point reached for a relationship to end?

I have the 70%-30% minimum rule that I advise friends on when they ask me about their troubled realtionships. When she is with him (as in interacting, talking or in the same room or when she is doing things specifically with him in mind) she should be able to honestly say that it makes her happy to be there with him at least 70% of the time. I figure, life is short, do you really want to choose to be with someone who will make 30% or more of it miserable for you? Probably not. Sounds like your friend has dropped down to the at least the 50-50 range. If he has pretty much always treated her like this, it is not going to change, your friend may get more and more depressed, which will make her less likely to feel she can leave. The sooner she can feel that she will be better off without this jerk, the better. Continue to encourage her to leave, and be sure to point out things she does well to build her self-esteem so that she will realize she does not need or deserve this treatment from him. Good luck.

for her when there is constat fighting and arguing, being mad or sad more than smiles and being happy its time to let go its not healthly to be in that kind of situation. as for you its time to let go also, she needs to find out for herself. its the only way

When a relationship turns into enemity, one should give up with it..

I think she should leave now. . . .He doesn't love her or he wouldn't treat her that way. She doesn't love him, because that is not love. I think she is afraid to be alone and that is why she isn't ready to give up on him -- he gave up on her long ago. Best of luck

To me, she would be in the best position to decide. If you advice her to leave her man, if at then end of the day, they are able to make things work again, the you will be the fool between them. Oly encourage her to endure. When she is tired, no one would preach to her before she takes to her heals. That is my candid advice for you please.

I think several of the previous posters have made some excellent comments on this subject. It is often very difficult for someone (usually a woman) who is in love to break off the relationship, even when it is clear to most others that they should. The same quality that allows women to endure difficult times in a good relationship can keep them in a mostly bad relationship. It would be great if somehow your friend could recall a time in her life when she was in love with someone else or felt whole and balanced prior to her current relationship. While it is hard to believe that she could ever love anyone else but her current beau, human nature is such that we can and do move on. If she were to leave this guy she will most likely find someone else in the future with whom she can be in love and have a better relationship. There is a fear of loneliness and rejection that might be keeping her in the relationship and while the tendency is to point out how bad she has it and should leave, you might be more successful to focus her attention on more positive times. If she can see herself in a more ideal relationship and believes that there is one out there for here, it might provide the courage she needs to leave this relationship behind. Good luck!

All you can do is listen and be there for her. If she is not ready to leave him, then that is up to her. Maybe..she will be one day...but till then just be her friend...

well, she is quit silly to stay with a man that is that way toward her. but you have heared the saying,'love is blind' but she needs to talk with im and if he cannot change and be nice, she then should move on. yes, if it was my friend,ill keep at it and look out for her.thats what friends are for.

hi. Love is not only a one sided affair. I think first she must express to him wat she goes through. If he still doesnt understand her love n how much she's trying to make the relation work then there's no meaning in it. she wud b better of w/o such a reln. so try dat. if its lik i said then i think u shud encourage her to leave him.

I think you are right. If I were you I would keep on convincing my friend to break up with her boyfriend.. As you said, he always makes her feel like trash, so she can't find happiness when she is with him. Breaking up with him now may bring her a lot of pains. But in order to lead a happy life in future, I suggest a temporary pain, so just convince your friend to break up with him.

i feel your friends pain as i am in the same situation as hers. personally, i think you shouldn't give up on her.. keep on encouraging her.. bring her out, let her feel that there's a world out there and someone else better and not the guy she's with. your friend is really lucky to have you. goodluck! :)

When you don't feel good about yourself anymore and you're not happy with what's going on with your life. It's time for you to move on and learn from your mistakes. God loves all of us and He's always there for you whenever you need Him. Only your friend can decide for herself, you just have to be there for her and try to guide her in anyway you can. Continue to pray for your friend that she will wake up someday and realized that there's more to life, she just have to take charge and make the best of it.

I believe when you find the right guy, he won't make you cry. My husband is the only guy that I have been with that has not put me down or made me cry.

It's never been easy when we talk about love issue here. :( But relationship is always an interesting topic to talk about. I could understand when she said she loves him and all of that. I also know how you feel, since we are what so called the outsider or the person who is not involve in the matter. Don't give up telling her the right thing, you did good. Try to use not only comforting words but also pray for her. My thoughts for your friend as well, Vicky.

She should leave him, such an environment does no-one any good.

First of all, since he's upsetting her all the time that should be the first sign to get out of the relationship. She should treat herself like a queen and love herself enough to move onto better things.

If she calls you crying and he really makes her feel bad, she should definitely leave him. If its just a little fight here or there, maybe it can work out. It sounds like its bigger than a little fight, so maybe she should think about moving on.

I think when there is no more LOVE in the relationship it should end. When anyone of you have felt that you don't love your partner you should end it up rather than staying on the relationship and not being true to yourself. Being honest to yourself is the best thing you have to made in your life but you must think 100 times before ending a relationship,especially if your married and there is kid involve.

Tell your friend you are concerned about her and that she deserves better.

She may be like a sister to you, but you'll have to let her make her own mistakes. I had a friend who complained constantly about her man. I listened to her for months, until it seemed like the problem was mine and not hers. Finally, after I got tired of seeing her suffer, I told her to either leave this man or live with it. Yes, I gave up and let her solve her own problems. You will eventually have to come to the same conclusion. Your intentions may be good, as mine were, but you must step back and let her solve this problem.