Thought Experiment for Right to Lifers/Antiabortionists
By aiguy01
@aiguy01 (588)
United States
January 21, 2007 5:12pm CST
You are in a building which is a fertility clinic. The building has caught fire and all around you you see flames.
On the table in front of you is a live baby and a large cooler containing 100 fully fertilized embryos which have not yet been implanted into the prospective mothers.
You can only carry one the baby or the fertilized eggs to safety. And you know there will not be time to make a return trip and no other help is on the way.
Which do you choose to save the baby or the 100 fully fertilized embryos?
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7 responses
@RealIolo (1854)
• United States
22 Jan 07
You have started a very good one here auguy01! Very thought provoking! I am a person who has decided that the best choice is Life yet the choice is ultimately up to the individual and no one should be able to condemn them for their choice. It was always theirs to lose.
To answer the question in your scenario, I would save the live baby because its mind has developed a lot more. A lot of fertilized embryos die from miscarriages and this is ok but a mother who chooses to abort a child is doing wrong according to the pro lifers. Well maybe she is doing wrong but it still is not your place to try and intervene. IMHO
At the same time I do believe that if a mother decides that what is best is to abort then they should do it in the first trimester.
@misskatonic (3723)
• United States
21 Jan 07
I'm really curious to see the responses to this. I know they'll mostly say the baby, and then spout rhetoric about priority and blah blah blah, but I'd really like to see their justifications. I hope you get plenty of responses, and I'll be keeping my eye on this discussion.
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@livewyre (2450)
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20 Feb 07
I think there's no question that we can relate to the live baby more than we can the 'potential' life of the 100 embryos, and in reality that would dictate our actions. If you asked a more logical being - 'data' or 'Mr Spok' from Star Trek, they might well make a different decision based on pure logic.
I am note sure this has anything to do with abortion or right to life though, as the academic argument may be separate to the emontional reaction.
Personally I think there are enough homeless children in the world without spending billions on creating chldren in a laboratory, but that's another story...
The pro-life argument to my mind is more about the rights of the mother/parents juxtaposed with the rights of the child/embryo NOT the rights of an embryo compared with the rights of a live baby.
If there was a pregnant woman and a non-pregnant woman, and you could save only one, which one would you take?
@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
2 Feb 07
This is a real no brainer. Of course you would save the baby. The embryos have not been implanted and as far as that goes, they do not even compare in any way to a viable fetus which the murdering abortionist would be terminating.
There is a big difference in a mass of cells that have been mixed together in a test tube, and the life that would be ended during an abortion.
Here is a question, if you had frozen embryos in your freezer at home, and a fire broke out, what would you do? Would you save the embryos and let your children die, or would you save the children?
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@aiguy01 (588)
• United States
2 Feb 07
But to people who believe that life begins at conception and the RU486 is just as much abortion as the clinical procedure how could they justify sacrificing 100 lives to save just one?
This is the point I was trying to bring out for them in the discussion but alas they realized that the only way for them to win the game, was not to play. They must have seen the movie wargames.
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@JacksTeenSpirit (31)
• United States
21 Jan 07
Hi
Just wanted to say that this is a great question. I imagine the responses will be quite interesting to read. And as a prochoice you can imagine my leaning to grabbing the baby and running for my life.
Dana
@misskatonic (3723)
• United States
22 Jan 07
It is a great discussion! Too bad there aren't that many responses. Or maybe that says something right there....
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@RealIolo (1854)
• United States
1 Feb 07
I just wish it was getting more attention because the author here is making an excellent point about how we see abortion. I just can't believe when Pro Life activists go so far as to kill a doctor over this. Seems a bit hypocritical to me.
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@stephbites (61)
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3 Feb 07
ok i think i have it....i would wanna take the baby cos of course you would feel more emotion about a baby than a cooler of eggs...but before i did i would throw the cooler of eggs out the window to safty and then take the baby...yay there all saved!!
@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
7 Mar 07
I am surprised that the prolifers didn't jump into this discussion screaming at how unfair it is to ask such a question! ;)
Personally, I think it's a brilliant question that puts things into perspective. The *potential* lives of 100 bundles of undifferentiated cells are nothing compared to one newborn/baby, and the choice is naturally easy to make.
But I bet that some prolifers would go as far as to throw the baby into the liquid nitrogen with the embryos and take the whole lot out! LOL! :P