Paint
By Gabs
@gabs8513 (48686)
United Kingdom
January 24, 2007 8:31am CST
I want to know if we are being fooled when we buy PAINT
I have bought some Satin Paint yesterday and I paid extra for it as it is one Coat
So today I painted the Wardrobe and guess what it needs another Coat of Paint
The Colour was darker then the previous so why has it not worked
Last Year I was painting the Doors
Non Drip Paint great well guess what it DRIPPED
So are we being fooled just to pay more ??
I think I will just stick to normal Cheaper Paint lol
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37 responses
@rainbow (6761)
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24 Jan 07
Oh gabs, what can I say? ha-ha
I have had one coat that has worked maybe you spread it too thin, lol.
I have had non-drip that dripped too, but not with expensive brands, who knows some people are just better than others with paint.
My dad used to say that my mum put paint on upside down so it always fell off.
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@honeyangel (1991)
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25 Jan 07
put the paint on upside down ha ha,going have to remember that one.my dad once put my bedroom paper in the bathroom.my mum and i couldnt stop laughing
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
24 Jan 07
Sorry about the paint. Unfortunately I have noticed that many "New and Improved" items being sold are not any different from the original item. I just think the only thing new is the label.
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@shelagh77 (3643)
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26 Jan 07
Well, Gabs, my Father used to call my Niagara because the paint used to stream down doors I painted in a fair imitation of a waterfall lol. The trick is to take the door off its hinges, lay it flat and paint that side and then turn it over then it is dry and paint the other side, apparently. Oh, and lock up the wildlife since a cat WILL print with its paw, great big ego in a little kitty lol.
As with everything, sometimes the price is a trick, sometimes not, depending upon the ingredients in the tin,it really is pot luck, or tin pot luck, I am afraid.
@shelagh77 (3643)
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27 Jan 07
You could go one better and only use really cheap, white "economy paint" and stain it to your own designer colour. The stainers are not very expensive and last for a lot of pots! I thought of that after i posted the last time :-)
@forfein (2507)
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26 Jan 07
Hi Gabs
Isnt that annoying!!
If they say it is "One Coat Paint" then it should be One Coat!!!
If they say that it is "Non Drip" that is what it should be!!!
Just a couple of years ago, it may be a bit more, I was reading in one of the Consumer Magazines about paint!!
You will think that the "big boys" like Crown or Dulux for example would be top of the list!!!!!!
NOPE!!!!
Guess who had the top rating for the Best coverage of paint, in one coat, and non drip ............
Guess....................
WOOLWORTHS !!!!!!!
Yep, I couldnt believe it myself!!!
@gabs8513 (48686)
• United Kingdom
26 Jan 07
Hi Forfein first of all it is great to see you back I have not seen you for a while
Yes I am suprised that Woolworth is at the top of the List I would have never thought that as you say we have these top Brands that we pay extra and then you have the Cheap brands that come Top It is unbelievable
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@wildguy2 (1349)
• Canada
26 Jan 07
Forfein, who makes the paint for Woolworth I wonder....
Usually any store like Walmart, Zellers, etc. that sell paint are selling for another company like CIL, Sherwin Williams Etc... For example I used to also work for Canadian Tire in my city, we sold CIL Premiere, Dutch Boy and Debbie Travis paint and before that Prat and Lambert, Martha Stewart and Premiere, just to name few. The first line of paint we carried was made by Sherwin Williams, the second line by CIL. I would laugh to myself when people would come in the store and tell me that Martha Stewart was the best paint they could get, and that they didn't like the Prat and Lambert paint or the Premier brands and that they were garbage, sad part was they were made by the same company at the time which was Sherwin Williams, they came from the same factory, same warehouse, and the only difference was the label that was applied, I even received a gallon onetime that had a premiere label stuck over the Martha Stewart label, this must have been a mistake at the factory. The only difference between the 2 brands of paint were 15.00 in price from one to the other....kinda shows that people do but for the name, and that if we were to remove the labels, 99% of the people wouldn't know the difference.
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@TerryZ (22076)
• United States
24 Jan 07
I think your right we do get pulled in alot times by thought it will be great when I just have to put one coat of paint on. And it doesnt always work that way.So you then have to put another coat on it. I think I would try and return it so at least you can get your money back. But not untill you put that second coat on!
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@kathy77 (7486)
• Australia
24 Jan 07
Oh yes I am quite sure that we are being fooled it sure sounds like it especially as it dripped, and we have to pay extra for this to happen and oh boy it is supposed to have only one paint but no they want us to use it all and then go back to buy more, what a waste of money so I do believe that it would be best to buy the cheaper paint.
@wildguy2 (1349)
• Canada
25 Jan 07
There is an old saying we have in the paint business, by cheap and get a couple years at the most, buy expensive and it lasts a lot longer, so you can buy a gallon of cheap 15.99 paint and have to do it every year or maybe two, or buy and expensive paint say 29.99 and do it every 4 to 5 years, in the long run buying expensive saves you money, and nobody likes to paint so it also saves you a lot of time and headaches.
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@cloud_kicker_32 (4635)
• United States
25 Jan 07
I absolutley agree with you!..I painted my bathroom walls and I also got the no drip..and it dripped//.and I needed2 coats as well and it was a light beige in there,,and the color was a darker gren..and i was soo mad!! I even called and complained to the company..they said they would send my money back to me if i sent the receipt..so i did..so next time maybe you can do that and get your money back as well..
@wildguy2 (1349)
• Canada
25 Jan 07
Of the thousands of colors I have sold over the past 10 to 12 years of the paint business, beige is one of the hardest colors there is to choose. They're so many different shades that it is near impossible to pick the right one, I currently work for Home Hardware paint and any time a customer comes looking for a beige color, I give them a fan deck of beige's to take home with them. Beige color contains yellows, yellow oxide and white, BUT there is usually another color thrown in to offset the beige, these can be GREEN BLACK RED OR RAW UMBER, and the slightest of any of these colors will tint the paint to an off beige, Cloud Kicker this to me sounds like what happened to you, you may have got a beige color picked but it most likely had that little bit of green added and this is where it goes from beige on the chip to green on the wall, if you still have the paint can see if the formula label is on the top, look to see if any green was added to the formula. A true beige color will use a White Base as its mixer, then have a very small amount of Yellow some Yellow Oxide and depending on how dark the beige is will have either Black or Raw umber added. Next time you decide to have a beige color, pick the chip color out and ask the paint dealer to look the formula up for you, and get him to tell you what is in it, I do this every time I sell beige paint this way I can explain to the customer the effects the color will have on the wall when they get it home. One last thing about a beige color, it plays madness with lighting, it absorbs light as well as reflects it, so a good light is needed to achieve the best look with beige color, my personal chose when using beige is to have Daylight bulbs in the room where the beige is.
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@wildguy2 (1349)
• Canada
26 Jan 07
I am not sure actually what you mean, but the only time a wall needs sanding is: 1. if the wall has been previous painted with a glossy paint, this needs to be sanded and primed so that the topcoat will stick. 2. If painting a vanished or wood surface, the area has to be sanded and again primed, but this has to have a stain block primer applied as wood will bleed no matter what type of paint is applied, unless a tannin block primer is applied such as BIN. 3. Painting ceramic tiles or glass, the area has to be buffed with a 40 grit sanding pad or grinder, then a high adherent primer like BIN has to be applied to stick to the surface, then this can be top coated with a paint of your choice. All these areas listed should also be wiped down with a product called TSP "tri-sodium Phosphate" as this cleans the surface of all impurities and also adds a final sanding to the area, then this is wiped down with warm water, no soap. If a room takes 4 hours to paint, 3 of those hours should be for preparation, before painting.
@Lakota12 (42600)
• United States
25 Jan 07
ok wise we get it ya worked in a paint store and you have put alot of good answers in here thanks but I never read any one of these that asked did she sand first . If you are painting over something it will aways beed thru or take more coats
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@margieanneart (26423)
• United States
26 Jan 07
You should bring it back to the store and ask them that question. It seems that nowadays, most places do not seem to be honest. They cut corners and charge more money.
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@kakuemmom (859)
• Canada
25 Jan 07
Did you paint directly over another color or did you do prime first sometimes the color below even if it is darker is a different kind of paint that can come through. If i am changing the color on anything i do i always do a white primer first just a thing coat it helps.
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@baysmummy (1637)
• Australia
24 Jan 07
I have noticed this alot not just to do with paint but everything, you pay extra money to get what they say is a better product and will save you more money and time, and it works out that it isnt any better then the cheaper versian of the same thing and it doesnt save you any money or any time!
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@rhinoboy (2129)
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24 Jan 07
i can truly empathise!
You normally get what you pay for though. This is less noticable with gloss paints but blatantly obvious if you try to use cheap emulsions.
Have you ever used the buckets of B&Q value paint? Compared with the brand products it's worse than useless, although Wickes own-brand 'trade' paint, I've found to be rather good.
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@sunsational (253)
• United States
25 Jan 07
I know sometimes it depends on the guy mixing it. I find, if I make them open it and put a dab on the stick then they use a hair dryer so it drys, it shows the color it actually will be. At home depot they will do this, Im not sure about other places.
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@wildguy2 (1349)
• Canada
25 Jan 07
The stick drying method is not a very accurate one, the reason being that the lighting you have at home is far different than that of the store, in the store the color you see is usually the color it is supposed to be, but at home the color looks different due to the lights. Another factor of this is area, color on a swatch of 2 inch by 2 inch looks much different than an area of 8 feet by 10 feet, our eye perceives it differently and a lot of the time makes the color look darker than what we had originally thought it to be.
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@blueskies (1186)
• United States
24 Jan 07
I don't really believe the claims by manufacturers when they come out with "specialty" products. You can usually do the same job with the regular version of the product just fine, and save money in the process.
If you read the back of that paint can, it probably says that you have to use a primer first, which you would need with regular paint.
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@kabuki (152)
• Singapore
28 Jan 07
I think you are right. Some of the specialty products are rip-offs and don't perform to expectations.
I always go back to the originals, since people have been using them for so long without much complaints. As for the new products, how many of them got taken off the shelves after some time. Very few manage to catch on with consumers, with good reason.
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