Elementary school bans talking at lunch !
By crazynurse
@crazynurse (7482)
United States
January 25, 2007 8:38pm CST
A Rhode Island school has banned talking during lunch. The reason is that there has been 3 choking incidents recently in the cafeteria. The principal states that if the cafeteria is loud, the staff cannot hear a child who is choking. Some parents support the new rule. Other parents feel the students,who have to be quiet all day, need some time for release and that quiet talking should be permitted. What do you think?
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@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
26 Jan 07
I don't agree with it being quiet. I don't think that it will keep kids from chokingo n hazardous foods. I do know that at my sons school they aren't suppose to talk in the lunch line or talk much at lunch. This is because they are trying to get the kids in and out as soon as possible so that they can get in their very short recess break.
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@contusion12878 (669)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I havent heard that story, but thanks for sharing. I dont agree with that rule either. I think the children have a break that they need to unwind. Lunch breaks are only generally 30 mins and then they have to remain quiet in classes for the rest of the day. Maybe they should just monitor the children while they eat and not permit talking while eating, but it shouldnt be a silent lunch break.
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
26 Jan 07
My son gets 30 miunutes to eat and have recess. They tend to herd them in and out like cattle just so they can get a break in.
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@biwasaki (1745)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I think that no talking at all is a little extreme. I mean, how can you expect children to sit and not say anything for a full day? I think a better alternative would be not packing a couple hundred students into a cafeteria all at once. Schedule the lunch breaks so that there are less students in there at one time. This would keep the noise level down and the student to staff ratio would go down as well.
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@crazynurse (7482)
• United States
26 Jan 07
Yes, I feel it is extreme too. Elementary age children cannot be expected, developmentally, to go all day without talking. Why not teach them how to talk appropriately!
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@Dolcerina (3376)
• Hungary
26 Jan 07
This is a very bad idea.
The cafeteria is a central place, where the students live their social life. It sounds like a joke. They must talk. What a stupid decision.
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@mari61960 (4893)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I can kind of understand the reasoning. When I was in grade school our principal was in the cafeteria at lunch. She would stand on the landing that went up to the outside door (cafateria was in the basement) She always had her "bell" with her. It was quite loud, it was the same bell used to signal the start and end of school. We were allowed to talk, but quietly. Any time it got loud or kids fooled around she would ring that darn bell. Oh boy how it echoed in the lunch room. One of the times she was not there, which was almost unheard of. It was really loud and kids were fooling around. A girl was choking and a friend was yelling for help and no teacher heard her. It turned out she got up what she was choking on but boy did we get a lecture the next day. We had an assembly and after she got through letting us have it, we all had to one at a time say "I will use my quiet voice at lunch or eat alone in the office" That way no one had an excuse. We could leave the cafeteria for the playground or gym as soon as we were done eating so it wasn't really that big of a deal.
I don't think absolute silence is really needed. Maybe I should send them Miss Sprague and her big loud bell..lol
@crazynurse (7482)
• United States
26 Jan 07
Mari, you bring up a good point, teach the children about their quiet voice! I feel we need to TEACH children. In this instance, teach them appropriate conversational voice for dining. To just say, no talking period, how do the children learn proper etiquette and so forth. I even like Miss Sprague's bell idea!
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@shywolf (4514)
• United States
26 Jan 07
Wow! That just seems like such a reactionary way for a school to behave. I mean, I can understand the choking thing, but shouldn't fellow students also be watching out for someone choking and tell someone in charge if it happens? You would hope that people around the person who is choking would be helpful in this way :/ I just think that it is really sad that kids can't talk at lunch! It should be a time to learn to socialize, especially since I've been hearing as well that some schools are having shorter recesses. When else are the kids supposed to have time to relax and talk to their friends? I hope that this school will re-think the policy, in time.
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@mari61960 (4893)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I agree, it seems a bit absurd to put a child in a room full of peers and expect them to sit there in silence. We were always told in school when talking during class to "save your conversation for lunch time". And yes they are cutting down recess time everywhere. We always had a "quiet voice" policy and I don't see anything wrong with that. But silence...no that's crazy.
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@cjayden (110)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I dont believe its right for them to be able to do that. That means a child would basically have to go all day without being able to talk since its not ok to talk while in class either. I think they are being a little to harsh there, maybe they need to get a little more staff on duty during lunch rather than making it like a prison for students and we wonder why some kids hate school.
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@crazynurse (7482)
• United States
26 Jan 07
yes, you are right, we could possibly make children hate school. Also, it may increase the amount of talking in class!
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@kgwat70 (13387)
• United States
3 Feb 07
I think that is ridiculous that they ban talking during lunch as the kids need time to talk with their friends and time to enjoy during the school day. I do not think that is good for their social life or experience. They should have a staff monitor walk around the cafeteria and monitor the area to make sure everyone is okay. I do not like the idea that they do not allow the kids to talk during lunch.
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@bobmnu (8157)
• United States
26 Jan 07
I am a former Principal of a middle/High School. The rule is STUPID. My bet is that the rule is so that the teachers can get an extra few minutes for thier lunch. If you do not allow children to talk at Lunch schools are missing an important learning situtation. Children need to learn how to talk at a social gathering. This time gives them a chance to share ideas with other in their peer group. It is interesting that silence in the Lunch room seems to be an Elementary School Problem, I have supeervised Middle and High School lunch rooms for 20 years and never had a problem with noise. Walking around and listening to the students talk was very interesting. The conversations were for the msot part very approiate and students would stop me to give them some information or answer a question generated by their discussion.
I don't know why Elementary School Staff has a problem with children talking at lunch.
@crazynurse (7482)
• United States
26 Jan 07
It sure sounds to me like the teachers and staff have lost control over the children. I would think they should be able to ask the children to speak in an appropriate voice and the rule would be followed or some consequences would occur. Sounds to me like they threw in the towel! I admire you for walking around during lunch. What I see at my daughter's school is the teachers and principal eating in the staff lounge and the children unsupervised...and very rowdy!
@SageMother (2277)
• United States
3 Feb 07
I think those schools are being incredibly lazy.
For years kids have talked and, yes, a few have choked. These people at those schools are making an excuse to keep the students quiet instead of actually paying attentiont to WATCH for choking. I hope someone calls them on it and make them reverse this decision.
@Perry2007 (2229)
• Philippines
3 Feb 07
The principal has his experiences and thus the rule, If it would be for the safety of all why not, after taking lunch, then they could go out and do their talking staff. Better safe than sorry.
@fluffleshark (810)
• Ireland
26 Jan 07
I think this is SOOOOO crazy!! It seems to me just another example of the 'lawsuit' society gone mad - people and institutions being scared about ANYTHING happening which they could be sued for.
It's so sad for the kids though! School was SOOO boring and frustrating. I know that when I was at school kids had enough trouble trying to keep quiet during class - without being able to let off some steam during breaktime I think they'll really go a bit crazy!!!! It could actually be bad for schoolwork in the end I think!
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@crazynurse (7482)
• United States
26 Jan 07
Me too fluffle, I think it may backfire on the administration. Class may now be difficult because the children are going to want to talk!
@inked4life (4224)
• United States
26 Jan 07
There has to be a little leeway here to allow the kids to socialize in school and lunchtime is one of the few times when they can do it. My kids school works on a traffic light system in their lunchroom. The light starts at green, and if the volume gets loud, it goes to orange and then if it gets really loud, ther is a red light signalled by a beel at which point the kids have to stop talking and be quiet. After a couple of minutes the bell rings again and the light goes back to green. I've met my kids a few times for lunch at their school and the system seems to work really well.
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@Jaytech (2251)
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26 Jan 07
So all of a sudden there's an epidemic of children choking due to talking while eating? Why has this never been an issue before?
Something doesn't add up, it also has effects on the child's social development. How can they learn these valuable skills with their own peers if they are unable to communicate with them during the only times throughout the school day that they are able too?
@suscan (1955)
• United States
28 Jan 07
Kids need to learn to be social along with the "book larning". Lunch is a good time for children to socialize with their friends. This too is an important part of education. Quiet talking should be permitted, if the children get too loud then they should be reprimanded.
@armywifey (882)
• United States
28 Jan 07
I don't agree with total silence. I think that lunch time should be a time to socialize with friends. They should be allowed to talk but not to cause commotion and be excessively loud. I think it is the responsibility of the teachers on duty to keep the level of noise in the lunch room to a dull roar.
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@vicky1 (240)
• United States
27 Jan 07
My son had this at his school. And one time he stuck out his foot and hit someone by accident and he told him he was sorry. Well they put him on the wall for talking. I was so mad I went to that school and gave them an ear full. How can you punish someone for having manners?? This is so crazy. That is these kids time and they should be albe to speak.
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@cjthedog64 (1552)
• United States
28 Jan 07
I too see the reason, but I think it better that students be taught how to behave first. And I don't think that's the sole job of the schools. It all comes back to poor parenting and kids not being expected to behave at home.
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@ShoalsTider (247)
• United States
2 Feb 07
Sounds like oneof the dumbest things I 've ever heard. It is one of the few times all days that kids can interact without many restrictions. It is a time for kids to relax and iteract socially.
Seems to me the school may need to take some time and teach the kids how to chew their food properly or maybe give them a little more time to eat so they do not have to eat so quickly. I know my kids have only about 20 minutes at lunch. By the time the get through the line they may have 10 minutes to eat. That may be more of a cause of choking. haveing to eat tooquickly.
@lyndaj70 (293)
• United States
27 Jan 07
I have heard of this the principal has explained to the children that the rule is a temporary one not permanent (I guess they are just paranoid). Also, they are allowed to whisper quietly, and the children are apparently having less of an issue with this than everyone else.