Let's sterilise women

I've given a lot of thought to alternatives, and I can't honestly think of any. know people will spout of 'adoption!' but a good many women don't want to go that route. It's not just that they don't want to raise a child, they don't want to give birth. They don't want the experience of being pregnant. Or maybe they can't handle all the red tape and hoops you need to go through to put a child up for adoption. For them, adoption isn't an option. I do believe women who never want children should be able to have sterilization. But because of America's 'pre-pregnancy treatment plan', where all women are treated as walking uterus houses, it's impossible for a woman under thirty with no children to get sterilized. I'm disabled and with a malformed uterus and *I* can't get sterilized. It's insane! (Pre-pregnancy treatment is this FDA enforced movement where all women are treated for the optimal health of a potential fetus, assuming that since all women have wombs all women will become pregnant and their bodies have to be in the right health to have a child. When did the rights of non-existent people become more important than an actual living, breathing person?)

Are you talking about forced sterilization? If that's what you mean, then I am against in ALL cases.

abortionwil create more bigger problem that is aging people only left on planet earth as there is no newborns. With the gen next the independence looks more attractive than family and house and resposibility. it should allow only in cases of abuse

Well when we think about it once the woman gets pregnant she can either have the child, or get an abortion. In Ireland it's illegal, but people can hop on the ferry and go to England instead so it's not much of a restraint. The other options are to raise the child yourself, get another family member to do it for you,or give it up for adoption. I don't really think there are any other alternatives. I don't like women using abortion as a method of birth control but there are times when birth control does fail and should women be forced to have a child for something that was out of their hands? No doubt this debate will never be settled.

I do agree with you every woman should have the right to say yes or no to a baby. But I dont think you should go as far as steriliseing them. I do think its just a bit radical.

I agree, the alternatives are as bleak as the discussion. If we let women continue to use abortion as another form of contraceptive, what does that say about us? But...what if these same women were forced to have the children? Adoption, abuse, more abortion abusers, Yes, ugly ugly ugly. So, what do we do? Where do we go from here? Do we impose more laws that restrict our human rights? Or do we ignore it all and let God sort it out? How sad is that?:(

First of all, if society would give more support and options to these women, abortion might not look so attractive. I read so many things about girls who are desperate because parents have kicked them out and they don't know where to turn. And the men involved get of scott free. Maybe there should be some negatives created for the man who caused the pregnancy, too. That would put some pressure on the men to be more careful. Socially there is not even any stigma for a man producing an illegitimate child. Maybe he should have to wear the scarlet letter throughout the pregnancy and bear the shame. Maybe he should have to wear something bulky and heavy that grows as the baby grows. Maybe he should be required to go to the doctor along with the woman and submit to the indignity of putting his feet in stirrups. I don't know for sure, but I'm just throwing some stuff out there for consideration.

I think we don't have the right to sterilise women yea ... i think if we did this we are breaking the law of nature ...

Why not steralize men? There are so many men who go from one woman to another and have like 6 kids from different women. Then they don't support them.

I do think that if a woman has 2 abortions she should have her tubes tied. There is no excuse for 1 and after 2 it should be nipped in the bud.

What I don't understand is the double standard here. You have to have the pre pregnancy plan that does not allow one to be sterilized or have a hysterectomy, BUT abortion is legal? How, and I repeat how does this make any common sense at all? I may not believe in getting your tubes tied etc, but if you have a serious condition or there is a high likely hood of the baby dying or the mother, then they need to take that into consideration. You know what really peed me of, is when I had MY FIRST child and they wanted me to have a hysterectomy because of a small prolapsed uterus At The age of 22. Like I said so many double standards if you ask me. I think a lot of those who do have a abortion are forced into it by relative or use it like contraception and that just should nerve be. There are so many people out there with their arms empty waiting for a baby. And before someone goes and says what about therapy they will need; that is a case by case thing I know many who were adopted and have a way better relationship with their parent than I. I just find it amazing about the double standards. Did you know that you can only get pregnant on time a month, within 24 hour period for the egg only lasts that long. The sperm (female) can last UPTO not guaranteed, for 72 hours in the right environment, and the male sperm for 48 in the right environment. Then if the right environment allows the sperm not to die, you only have a less than 50 percent chance of getting pregnant, and then (depending of the women's health) a 50-75 percent chance of miscarriage within the first months. Now that said, if one were to be raped or assaulting etc. they are even LESS likely to become pregnant, because your body protects itself by 1. not ovulating 2. not making it a sperm friendly place (will kill them) 3. more likely if you do get preg do abort naturally. This is because this is your bodies way to protect its self. I was raped once and glad for the information above. It gave me heart, but I was already pregnant with a child and I lost him becuase of the rape. It is amazing how yourbody want to protect it's self, but sometime it hurts too.

Why sterlize women? why not to sterlize all the men? Why it is the responsibility of a women to be careful, because she is the carrier of a child? And a man can be as much careless as he wants, because he is not a carrier? I agree that abortion is not a solution for contraceptive, but why women should be sterlized? Why not both the partner can be sensible, why it is responsibility of women only? why can't men be also responsible for this?

I totally agree with you. Unless a close family member or friend is adopting your child, it's very hard for a mother to part with it, as they should already feel a close bond. The mother fed it, carried it around for nine months and the baby is her own flesh and blood. The father on the other hand doesn't have to deal with all this; he just sits in front of the telly all day watching football (no offence to any men) because the child isn't exactly inside them. Women don't want to part with their child because of the pain the mother had during the child's birth and for the reasons stated above. Some pregnancies might be accidental. You might be 15 and you might have been raped. You might accidentally get pregnant. I personally think you're too young to become a mother if you're 15 - you haven't even finished your schooling! Being Sterilised might be your only option. Abortion is not bad all the time. Okay, maybe it is, but if there are REASONABLE alibis, then it's not AS bad.

First off, let me say this. I do not believe in abortion. Under no circumstance. It is not a "choice", it is a life. Perhaps sterilization is what needs to be forced on women who do not want to have children. My sister got pregnant at a young age (18). She wasn't planning on it. Did abortion ever cross her mind? Never. Once that baby is concieved, it is alive and has a soul. Of course, this is only my belief. If she had never planned on children and had known that if she got pregnant she would abort it, then maybe she should have been sterilized.

why, you're ranting because of boring discussions about abortion when you're also interested in alternatives. Give us at least two alternatives aside from contraception which I already mentioned and your "sterilising women". How sure are you that sterilizing women won't have any adverse effect to women's health? by the way i'm proabortion as the last option. Give us a definitive solution to this abortion issue and I'll stop barking.

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Wow I have never in my life heard such nonsense, In reality it would have been a perfect world if only the people who believe in abortion were actually aborted, If you support it then you shouldn't mind if you were aborted because I am sure there would have been a good reason for it. right? Most woman who get abortions have already had one before, learn the facts less than 1% of abortions are for Rape victims, It is being used as contraception and more and more people are recognizing that while in some Very limitd cases it is nessesary, Most of them are not. Learn the facts at www.abort73.com The truth is there. But most people do not want to see it.