Why stop at murdering birds carrying killer diseases, why not people?
@michelledarcy (5220)
February 4, 2007 2:12pm CST
I am shocked that so many turkeys have been killed because of the spread of bird flu. Instead of giving them a vaccine and keeping them alive they are just needlessly killing them.
It is terrible to think that they are in such bad conditions already, and then are subjected to this just because it is the cheap option.
Where are we going to stop? How long until they start culling people who are carrying HIV to stop the spread or other diseases that spread quickly and can potentially kill.
What are your thoughts?
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@im_theboss (384)
• India
5 Feb 07
i respect ur feelings. but wait buddy...the turkeys were supposed to be killed, either fr food, or just to prevent any disease from spreading. if ur thinking that man should leave eating turkeys, then maybe u r trying to disrupt the ecological balance.i must say it again...i have respect fr ur feelings n the kindness in ur heart. but there r certain fields, where brain should be utilised n heart must not be allowed to interfere. I hope u understand.
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@redrain (29)
• Indonesia
4 Feb 07
right now the world focus on finding the effective vaccine for human.
and the world can't just relax & waiting for the vaccine. the world has to do something to prevent ths spread of bird flu.birds can fly anywhere and can quickly spread the virus. so, they have to do all they can, although it's really terrible.
imagine it, if the world stop killing the bird, the virus will be spread all over the world. how do you think, if you ride on the bus or train with people who suffered bird flu, you will be scared & hope you not inffected to right !?
bear with it for now, the world have to do it for human sake.
and i believe they will not start killing people who are carrying HIV to spread.
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@michelledarcy (5220)
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4 Feb 07
If it was thousands of people that were carries of a killer disease I don't think we would just kill them all, so why have we done it to the birds?
@michelledarcy (5220)
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4 Feb 07
I was under the belief that there was a vaccine for them. It is just because it costs more to give it that we aren't bothering.
@redrain (29)
• Indonesia
4 Feb 07
if there's the vaccine for the bird, i hope they start using it. it's better than killing them.
i know how you feel though, people have to do something to protect the animal. because the animals have the right to life too.
i had already sick to hear them killing the birds, althought they just doing for human sake. it's really a bad way to prevent the virus to spread.
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@bonbon664 (3466)
• Canada
4 Feb 07
I think there's a big difference between turkeys and humans. These birds could spread the bird flu causing the biggest pandemic the world has ever seen. I don't put the lives of animals on par with humans. You suggest vaccinating them all. Who's going to pay for that, the farmer? The taxpayer? You won't have to worry about culling humans, because when the pandemic hits, and it will, millions of people will die anyway. If we can control it, so be it.
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@michelledarcy (5220)
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4 Feb 07
I would prefer the vaccine came out of my taxes than they all be killed for nothing
@rosie_123 (6113)
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4 Feb 07
I agree with you Michelle. The whole thing is disgusting. I remember when the bird flu thing first hit the headlines, there were ghastly pictures on TV of birds in Central Europe being slaughtered. They were being picked up by their necks while still alive, and just shoved in bin liners to be burnt aive. It made me cry and cry. People are so needlessly cruel to animals, and to other living creatures. I guess that is why I don't eat meat either.
@rosie_123 (6113)
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4 Feb 07
You definately have a supporter on ths subject. And I know it's a bit off topic, but I really liked your recipe site, that you left a link to the other day.
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@michelledarcy (5220)
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4 Feb 07
Its nice to know I have a fellow supporter here who agrees with me. It is horrible enough to think of all those turkeys waited to be killed to eat, but to kill them all for this is even worse.
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@michelledarcy (5220)
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4 Feb 07
I'm glad you like the recipe web site, its a lot of work to add a new one every day, but I think its worth it if it encourages a few more people to eat vegan food.
@abhiquest (579)
• India
5 Feb 07
I don't know why when we talk of value of human life and humanitarian aids, we almost forget the same attitude towards animals. I think life of a bird is as precious as of any human being.
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@melissacus (441)
• United States
5 Feb 07
i'm sorry if i sound insensitive and mean, but they are turkeys. the fact that you can compare turkeys to humans is beyond me. don't get me wrong, i love animals. but they're putting the lives of human beings, which make this world go round, before turkeys, which sounds pretty reasonable to me. they're threatening. i'm totally against the unnecessary kill of animals. the whole hunting for sport thing pisses me off. but this situation seems logical and fair to me. they can't afford to use vaccine on every turkey. trust me, they will birth enough to replace any turkey killed.
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@michelledarcy (5220)
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5 Feb 07
Obviously being a vegan means I don't agree with you about eating animals, but I'm glad you feel like you do about hunting as that is cruel.
@michelledarcy (5220)
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4 Feb 07
it is true, mioney does seem to be the key to everything in this world. Its terrible.
@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
5 Feb 07
How horrible this may sound, but i do belive that one of the reasons for these birds beeing killed is that they were probably brought up for man to make money buy selling them as food. There was noone there to love the birds and noone to fight for them.
I think the bird-flue is a horrible disease and I wished noone would get it, man or animal!
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@SimplyJo (1694)
• India
23 Feb 07
Oh that is so terrible. i am a nature lover and hate to see such things happening in our so called 'broad minded' world. who makes these decisons anyways ???? I wish if i could meet such people and get this in their heads... This is purely cruel. wont you agree?
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@kathy77 (7486)
• Australia
4 Feb 07
Well if we do not kill these birds infected with these diseases then how are we going to control this bird flu I do feel sorry for the birds that they are treated so badly and in such bad conditions, I understand what you are saying but animals are not the same as humans and never will be so I do not think that it would come to this extent.
@michelledarcy (5220)
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4 Feb 07
I disagree I think animals should have the same rights as people. We are supposed to be the intelligent ones, we should be looking after them not killing them.
@thewolf777 (581)
• United States
5 Feb 07
*sigh*
ok miss Vegan. let me tell you something. i love eating turkey and i dont want to find myself getting sick and dying of bird flu. and like you said they are taking the ceap option. why? because vaccinations are expensive!!!
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@mobyfriend (1017)
• Netherlands
23 Feb 07
One of the reasons that I became a full time vegetarian eight years ago (before that I was eating smal quantities of meat) was the killing of hundreds of cows when there was an outburst of foot and mouth in my country. In the news there was an item of a farmer having to kill his healthy herd but the day before the slaughter he had to clip their ears to mark them for killing. Totally insane.
And I know that in the Lakes all the animals have been buried that were slaughtered. And I have been to that lovely place already 3 times and it makes me sick to think what has happened there.
On a more positive note. Our local zoo was the only zoo in my country where they vaccinated the birds against the bird flu at the beginning of the bird flu outburst.
If we have no respect for animals I guess we will be the next in line.
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@the_dreamer2005 (1175)
• United States
5 Feb 07
I didn't see that headline. But that is awful. Though it's the same for humans. If we're suffering and in pain, why prolong that? I don't think that killing just to possible end things is a good idea. If the vaccine can help them, they should at least try it first before going off and killing.
@holylotus (39)
• India
5 Feb 07
Powerful and intelligent species lasts amid life competition. Its no way justified if you propose human genocide. We are humans and we should love our fellow beings.Thats it.
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@lonewolfnan (4366)
• Canada
5 Feb 07
The slaughtering of hundreds of thousands of different species(chickens,turkeys and buffalo to name a few)seems like a HUGE waste of food and money.The government tells us it is to stop the spreading of the diseases but apparently it is not helping so maybe they should be looking at alternative methods?
I do believe if a government had to sacrifice a few hundred thousand people to save millions(or at least themselves),it would not hesitate for a minute.We are all considered "collateral damage" in their opinions and would be an acceptable level of loss.
@mansha (6298)
• India
5 Feb 07
I also thionk animals need to be protected and I also thought its unfair to the poor birds but think of it like this, if you have few birds i your house that are suffering from this infectious disease and your own kids are at risk, what will you do? Thats the choice I think people of medicl community also had to make.
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
5 Feb 07
Well if the vaccine is overused the virus could mutate to a resistant form, which isn't good either. Remember that most of those turkeys were being breed and kept alive to be eaten anwyays.
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@raj_74 (48)
• India
5 Feb 07
this is a world of humans. humans rule everything.
bird(especially turkey) is man made or is such a thing whose population can be increased as and when required.
as humans are the main dominating race on the surface of the earth, it is felt that ,,,that which is peeved as life threat have to be destroyed.
prevention is better than cure.
yes it is a cheap option to kill them , but do u think people are ready to face life threat by not doing so.
so untill they find a immediate solution to this ,,however shocking or cruel it may seem to some of us, this will continue.
or as some perceive, if we show coutesy then we may become extinct someday..loll
@fizzytom (752)
• Maribor, Slovenia
5 Feb 07
The reason that so many have to be killed is that the diesease is easily spread among the birds - especially because they are kept so close together. This is the cost of a £5 chicken dinner - its only cheap to buy chicken because they are kept in such bad conditions.
The slaughtering is the result of people wanting cheap food.
As for culling people with HIV, I don't think so somehow...
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@d4deepaksurya (72)
• India
5 Feb 07
ohh..thats really horrible!!!1
your point of thinking is absolutely coreect..if it is going with birds..then y not humans..
we should take care of them...and we should help them if possible..not kiling them...
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