Oregon's "State Climatologist" to be fired for view on Global Warming
By MrNiceGuy
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
United States
6 responses
@irisheyes (4370)
• United States
8 Feb 07
Actually, he may not be the only scientist who feels that way. I know that Michael Crichton who has a strong medical/science background has written that global warming is not the threat everyone seems to think it is. Still if there is a silencing, it is world wide. The US is probably the last to get on the global warming bandwagon.
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@Idlewild (6090)
• United States
8 Feb 07
Crichton has an MD degree (though he never practiced medicine). He did write a novel that argues with much of the current global warming thought, but it's out of his area of expertise (as opposed to The Andromeda Strain or Congo).
Even major U.S. corporations, and leading evangelical churches, have been asking the U.S. administration to do more about global warming. I find it hard to believe that those groups are part of some liberal conspiracy!
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
7 Feb 07
Hah! Have you seen this on the news? All i hear about is how corporations and teh government allegedly "silence" pro-warming scientists or allegations of that. That is why I brought it up, because the other side is given drastically less publicity, since it sells far less.
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@Idlewild (6090)
• United States
7 Feb 07
You are right to put "state climatologist" in quotes... because as the article clearly states...
"The university [OSU] created the job title, not the state.'
He did not lose his job, just a title given to him by the legislature. He still has his job, and can speak out on whatever he wants--how is he being 'silenced'?
Do you really think it's uncommon for officials to do things like this, if their views disagree with that of their bosses or governments? The Lt. Gov. of NY was forced to step down (yes, she lost her job, not just a title) because her views disagreed with that of her boss, the Gov--even though both of them were elected together on the same slate,and both were republicans.
I respect your passion for the conservative cause , but have to say I think this is another case of making a mountain out of a molehill.
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@Idlewild (6090)
• United States
7 Feb 07
"because the other side is given drastically less publicity, since it sells far less."
Maybe it's because it happens far less, or because the current administration has a habit of silencing views it doesn't like, whether it's global warming or ignoring generals trying to give input on how the Iraq war should be conducted? Many conservatives in Congress complainedabout Rumsfeld's tendency to badger the generals and dismiss their opinions.
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
8 Feb 07
Yes it was a shame. That was his opinion I gues freedom of speech is dangerous in Oregon if it costs you your job. BTW I tried to vote but it would let me..not a member.
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@Destiny007 (5805)
• United States
9 Feb 07
This is the price you pay if you are not politically correct and refuse to toe the line like a good little puppet.
Anyone with any sense at all should be able to recognize that climatic change on a global scale is out of our control.
People would rather blame someone, than admit it is a natural phenomenon and something they cannot control.
@flagbabygirl (891)
• United States
7 Feb 07
It's our Government at work once again making things look the way they want it to look for "the People"!A hidden agenda no dought. I hope that people are smart enough to see the truth.
Thanks for the article
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
7 Feb 07
Yeah, you hardly hear people complain about people silencing the scientists that DONT BELIEVE in global warming.
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@dedleytedley (7)
• Canada
7 Feb 07
one of the most prominent doomsayers on climate is a fellow canadian david suzuki. he is typical of the sky is falling crowd. in the seventies he made a name for himself predicting the onset of a new ice age. now he's aquired more fame with dire predictions of global warming.his degree is in genetics so he has no more credibility on this issue than you or i. most of the scientists on the global warming bandwagon have a vested interest in the subject. i read a novel written in the late eighties that explored a scenario where carbon emissions were reduced so dramatically that the oxygen/carbon dioxide balance in the atmosphere changed to cause a glacial climate. the mechanism for this was the billions of tons of fertilizer humans have dumped in yhe oceans. the fertilizer promoted the growth of photo-synthetic algae causing a rise in the oxygen levels and decline in carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. this resulted in a lowered greenhouse effect and the onset of an ice-age. this was only a novel, but i've heard the experts say many times that they can't account for fully half of all co2 emissions. if phyto-plankton are responsible for this missing co2 then we could easily tip the atmosphere into a serious cooling trend.these nutrients will circulate in the oceans for centuries, even millenia can we afford to cut emissions until we know where the excess co2 goes?
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@CraftyCorner (5600)
• United States
9 Feb 07
we do not know enough about climate. there are many factors. there's us, there's plants. there's the sun, there's ocian currents. for that matter, there's flatulent cows.