YouTube Censoring Videos Critical of Islam, Leaves Anti-Christian Material Alone
By MrNiceGuy
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
United States
February 12, 2007 10:01am CST
Does anyone think thats fair? Videos posted that are critical of Islam, some simply quoting the Koran, are banned for being inappropriate or insensitive. But has anyone seen the other videos on YouTube of gang violence, anti-Christian, and anti-Religious videos getting banned? No.
They will let video of terrorist snipers killing US troops on YouTube, but since some people on the site report anti-Islamic videos, simply telling true stories or facts, not using hate, as "hateful" or insensitive, they get banned.
Check these out:
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/09/technology/09link.html?ex=1318046400&en=e391caf73c3cf102&ei=5088&partner=
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006855.htm
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006064.htm
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/006048.htm?print=1
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=52405
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7 responses
@clownfish (3269)
• United States
26 Feb 07
MrNiceGuy, I'm going to ask you this question because I trust you to stick to the issue and not get personal or snarky. I'm just wondering, why is everyone so quick to defend a violent culture? Islam is violent, they teach their children to kill their enemies, and they have been violent against almost every other culture in the world. Why is everyone defending them?
@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I don't know. Its a good question. I think it has to do with political correctness and the "race card".
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@clownfish (3269)
• United States
27 Feb 07
I can understand that, as americans, we're taught that everyone should be treated equally, etc. However, we're talking about the world now. Not every culture values the individual the way we were taught to. YouTube is international, so they have more to take into account than just the beliefs of the US, they must make their content acceptable by the world's standards.
I'm not trying to start a fight, but these are people who would like to see us die terrible deaths. Why are we so staunchly opposing efforts to suppress that? Do we really want to further that culture? Do we really think that teaching children to kill is freedom of speech? And that killing your enemies because they are less than human is free speech?
Thanks for your reply - I do appreciate it! :-)
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
27 Feb 07
Not to mention that jihadist propaganda videos and recruitment videos are left alone on YouTube!
YouTube is an AMERICAN company isn't it?
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@whiteheather39 (24403)
• United States
12 Feb 07
First I can't believe it is worth $1.6 billion. Secondly who are the people controlling whether to delete a particular video or not. It has to be people who are afraid that not deleting would either affect their bank account or their political connections. I dont go into YouTube and from what I have read it is getting a pretty bad reputation.
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@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
26 Feb 07
Good question Mr.NiceGuy!
Western Society has had hundreds of year to evaluate Christianity. Islam is relatively new to the U.S. And, many people do not know what it's doctrines are all about.
We should not succumb to P.C. standards that prevent people from seeing all views of Islam, including the extremist views that vex approx. 10% of Islam's population. After all, that equates to approximately 2,000,000 people who fall into the extremist category. That's 2 million people, around the globe, who believe they should be killing infidels! That should be cause for alarm to any peace loving person. Fair analysis is critical to people formulating their opinions about Sharia Law vs. Constitutional Law, and whether or not they can coexist peacefully.
I have to wonder if: Since the big Islam expansion following the oil embargo of the 1970s, if the Islam that is being imported into the U.S. isn't of a 'watered down' variety. We hear so many people here in the states emphatically tout the peacful nature of Islam. And, I believe that they believe it to be true.
Yet, every major global political upheaval today involves Islamist Extremists. How can a religion that teaches peace include, among its flock, so many who believe their religion instructs them to terrorize those who do not subscribe to their religions doctrine?
I'm not bashing Islam here Mylotters!!! I really believe that this is a valid question. If 10% of Christians today were willing to strap on a bomb, or kill someone who drew a comic making fun of Christ, I'd be asking the same question! What is it about Islam that C.A.I.R.E. and other oranizations don't want the American people to know? And, more importantly, what is it in Islam that makes so many Muslim's believe it acceptable to kill and mame in the name of religion? Any god who rewards the fold for reaking havoc is no god that I can respect. I believe that somewhere down the line, somebody got something terribly wrong in their interpretation of the 'The Divine Plan'. I'd really love to hear the Muslim perspective on this. If you read any of my other posts, you will find that I am neither a religious fanatic, nor am I closed-minded. I would genuinely like to hear how peaceful Muslim's reconcile this. Thanks in advance!
@ladyluna (7004)
• United States
26 Feb 07
Good morning MrNiceGuy,
Yup, you're right my math was off. And, I see that the estimates of the number of Muslim's worldwide is closer to 1-2 billion. So yes, that means that there are potentially many more than my original estimate of people out there, who believe that it's acceptable to convert or kill. That simply staggers me!
It's one thing to have believed this way in the early part of the last millennia. Even then, there was no excuse for the 'Inquisition', and their misguided, bloody notion of how to deal with those that don't toe the line. However, it's utterly inexcusable for any 21st Century people to still believe this way!
Granted, the use of technology (which defines this century) is discouraged, and in some cases, prohibited by the leadership of some Islamist Sects. Which begs the question "Why?". Technology and today's 24x7 news cycle certainly make it easy to access a full perspective of any issue on the planet. Yet, we know that Islamic leaders themselves use the technology (cell phones, computers, tv, video uploads, etc...) that they try to prohibit others from using.
This brings us back full circle to your original question: Why is the leadership of American Islam so diligent in filing lawsuit after lawsuit to keep organizations, like "Youtube", from exposing Islam's ugly side? Surely, C.A.I.R.E. and others realize that they cannot dictate that the American flock denounce the use of technology. They must realize that technology is as "Apple Pie" as Baseball.
Perhaps they've determined that the only way to try to keep the flock uninformed, here in the States, is to use the legal system and Political Correctness to limit the exposé of Islam's dark side. This is not the first time leaders have attempted to control their flock by keeping them under-educated and uninformed. Leaders throughout history, and into the present have used the same tactic. That being a whole different discussion, we'll save how education (or the lack thereof) is used as a means to control the masses for anther day.
So MrNiceGuy, I say again -- Good question! There are many, many angles to explore in your topic. I say, "Fully inform the people, then let the chips fall where they may".
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
26 Feb 07
Great post, thanks for your thoughts. I really like the fairness and respect you showed.
I have heard the 10% figure as well, but I think that is conservative since IMO you don't actually have to strap a bomb on or beat your wife to be an extremist, you can simply agree or support the ideology. But even still, 10% of an estimated 1 billion or more Muslims is 100 million people, not 2 million. By no means "fringe" or "extreme" since that is so many.
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@Idlewild (6090)
• United States
12 Feb 07
You're omitting a major point of the Times article: that YouTube allows anyone to make a complaint about any video, and that YouTube will investigate and remove any that it sees as offensive or in violation of TOS.
Are you saying that no "anti-Christian" videos have been removed?
According to the article, one of the videos by Malkin, a right-wing activist, implied that "images of Lebanese citizens suffering the recent Israeli bombings were staged, violated the company’s terms of service."
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
12 Feb 07
Right, they do review it, which is why its even more disturbing. They are actually removed. I guess either YouTubes reviewing isn't very thorough, or they simply ARE censoring. The fact remains they are at least letting it happen.
So what about what the video said? There WERE staged pictures and media events from Lebanon and Iraq as well. the AP's recent scandals come to mind pretty easily.
I'm not saying that no Christian videos are removed, but the videos critical of Islam don't even stand a chance. THere are groups that go out and deliberately flag them a bunch of times because they don't agree with them.
Its a lot like MyLot's rating system.
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
12 Feb 07
I think another factor is that many muslims take great offense to perceived "insults" to their religion, since it is such a major "fopaux" according to the Muslim faith. We all saw what happened when those Danish cartoons of Muhammad came out. But why should it be allowed when its stated in a factual, analytical context, and isn't deragotory at all?
Christians are used to getting bashed, but such criticism is perceived to be illegal according to the Islamic faith.
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@MrNiceGuy (4141)
• United States
17 Feb 07
exactly. Who knows it could have started a war somewhere in a hostile area.
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@4ftfingers (1310)
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6 May 07
It doesn't effect me but no it isn't fair. If you feel offended by it though you should complain to youtube mate
@Louiethe20th (127)
• United States
19 Feb 07
Yeah it is sickening, reminds me of CNN and the ACLU in alot of ways.
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@yanjiaren (9031)
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12 Feb 07
any form of discrimination is unacceptable..all parties have to be respected..from whatever faith..only ugly extremist views should bel left out..thankyou for posting this here as all kinds of racism or any ugly isms should be brought to our attention..