Why do some women have the guts to abort their child?
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
Philippines
February 14, 2007 11:20pm CST
I know..I know that some womens alibis would be that they are not ready...they don't want any obligations..they re too young..their parents would get mad if they new she was pregnant...and lots more alibis...Don't they know they are commiting a murder? How can they do that? I don't think some of this women don't have any conscience...What's your opinion on this?? I want others to know what you have to say...
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
15 Feb 07
By who's definition is it murder? It's not the Government's stance on it. Most states do not recognize a fetus as being a living being until after the start of the 5th month of pregnancy. Many religions believe that life does not start until the soul enters the baby which happens upon birth not conception. You believe it is murder and that is your choice to believe that but it is also others choice to believe it is not murder.
You are forgetting also the women who have abortions for other reasons. Like rape, incest, dangers to the mother, selective reduction (when a woman is carrying twins or more and to carry all would risk the mother and the other babies so they remove one, sometimes more depending on how many they are carrying), what about these women? Do they also fall into the selfish, uncaring murders section? That they have no conscience?
This issue is not that simple nor is it that black and white. There are many shades of grey in it. Until any of us are placed into the exact position of one who has chosen abortion how can we say what we'd do? We cannot know what they go through. We can surmise and we can try to figure it out but until we have lived that woman or young girl's life we haven't a clue and none of us should judge.
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
Thanks for that flagbabygirl..Girls no arguing here we are not judging anyone we are just saying what we think of this issue.. Yes, I know we don't know what is transpiring in these womens mind but when we get pregnant and it counts on every month that child is already alive...A Woman take care of it during the 1st days because you already know you have a new life inside you that you have to care for and bring to life...Why suffer the child if they come from a man who raped you...It is not the childs fault you got raped and I am not saying it's the rape victims fault either..Sometimes during situations like the ones emerald is talking about in regards to endangering the mothers life and we have to choose between keeping the baby alive or not..that is a different issue and we can't blame the mother on that..I consider that a medical problem...We are plainly talking about why women have the guts to abort their child...If this women don't like the child they are caring there are alot of institutions that can help them...They can give the child to a foster home or places people can adopt this child to give them a new home..After giving birth you can go as you please and you don't have to hold it in your conscience that you aborted your child just like that.
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@msmonkeyfeet (789)
• United States
15 Feb 07
I was all set to reply to this discussion until I read this particular response...they pretty much summed up everything I was going to write! :)
It really is very irritating everytime I read someone condemning other people for their personal life choices (like abortion). No one's asking or telling YOU to have an abortion, you don't even have to like the fact that someone else is getting one, but you SHOULD respect that it is their decision. And you shouldn't be so quick to judge someone before knowing all the facts. How would you like someone forcing you to become a vegetarian simply because THEY consider it murder to eat meat? You'd probably tell them that it was your body and your choice what you put into it for food and that you don't believe it's murder to eat a hamburger and that they should respect your decision. I think people should learn to respect other people's personal lives more and concentrate on their own lives more.
@flagbabygirl (891)
• United States
15 Feb 07
Since when did we want the Government running our lives? You should try to have a thought of your own and learn the facts before you strike out at people who are trying to protect life!
At www.abort73.com you will learn about an abortion doctor who has come to the realisation that it is murdur and has stopped performing abortions! after a couple hundred thousand of them! Most medical people will agree now that Life begins at conception! When 2 separate cells become 1 entity and it has a completly separate DNA from anyone else it is in fact a human being! Learn then speak!
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@GloomCookieLex (6073)
• United States
15 Feb 07
It's not guts, disregard, selfishness, or cowardess. It's a valid life choice that any woman has the right to make. Just becuase you wouldn't personally get an abortion doesn't mean you should force another woman to endure a pregnancy.
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@flagbabygirl (891)
• United States
15 Feb 07
It should not be a choice it's a life! And what about the father it's as much his why doesn't he have a choice? www.abort73.com if you dare! The truth sucks but its out there, Excuses!
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
I believe flagbabygirl is right.. It is not a choice and should not be one because it is wrong...Did you know you can get sick by having an abortion? One kind of sickness is cancer,post-traumatic depression, etc. We are not forcing anyone to endure a pregnancy we are just trying to let these women know that abortion is not the right thing to do...and as flagbabygirl said there should be no excuses.
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
23 Feb 07
Then don't get yourself pregnant gurl....No one's stopping you from making love with you husband...If you don't want kids then don't make any..That's it.
@sizzle3000 (3036)
• United States
15 Feb 07
There are a ton of reasons why woman would have an abortion. It is her body and only she can make the choice to obort or not. Yes some are very young girls who made a mistake and why should they pay for a mistake the rest of their lives. If these people are so against abortion why don't they pay all the bills that are connected with having a child. I know when my daughter was born it cost me over $5,000.00 in bills and that was before I took her home from the hospital. The reasons for one woman to obort may not seem good ones to another but they are not both in the same place. I also think that people need to stop judging others. What is right for me may not be right for you.
I think that it should be up to the person who is pregnant to make the decision that is right for them.
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
Yes each woman has her own body and they have their own reasons...There are some institutions that would take care of you while you are pregnant and pay for all your bills in the hospital just to get that child delivered..What we are trying to imply here is why give up a life when it is ones fault that that life ended up in their tummy in the first place. How do you feel when you delivered your daughter?It feels great right? When I delivered my 1st child I was only 19. My dad was strict and we were too young..We don't have any money at all because we aren't working...but even if that thought entered my mind I set it aside and thought of the child inside me...What did she do... I thought...Then I said to myself no matter what I want this child and even if it tears me apart I will care for this child. We borrowed money just to get the child delivered and the doctor didn't charge us for anything because she knows we have nothing...atleast for myself I can say I got through all of that.
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@sizzle3000 (3036)
• United States
14 Aug 07
That is what is right for you but that is not what may be right for me. There are many reasons one may choose to abort a child and we have no right to judge. I have a daughter and it was very hard on me. The doctors gave me less than a twenty percent chance of carrying another child let a lone deliver. I am greatfull that I have one child. However, there is no way that I would try to bring another child in this world to be raised by someone other than me and with my health issues that could happen. I was very lucky and did not have to much to worry about because as soon as I was heald enough I had my tubes tied. However, everyone doesn't have the money to have this done. These are hard choices and we can not know what someone else is going through unless we walk in their shoes.
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@thewolf777 (581)
• United States
15 Feb 07
its horrible soeone would do smething like that. and i do believe they will go to hell for commiting such an act. you have no right to kill someone, even if they havent yet been born. i dont care! as soon as the sperm entered the egg it is a person. i dont care that the arguement is that it is "your body" but what about te baby? it has every right you do to live. why would someone want to take that away.
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
Thanks for the comment..I agree with you about your say on this...Nobody has the right to take away the life of an infant even if they are just starting to grow in the womb.
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@KingCold (29)
• United States
9 Mar 07
But do you have the right to commit the child to a horrible life before it is even born? If your not ready you shouldn't be having children in the first place but if it happens and you can't properly care for that child, at least give its soul a chance to find a better body to be born into and have parents that can give it everything a child deserves. Going through with the pregnacy just because you believe abortion is wrong ignores one important fact; that child will be wholly dependent on others for the several years once it is born and if the parents can't be a stable influence in the child's life, why give birth then pass the buck?
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
10 Mar 07
I salute you Isaacs_mommy_ 2006..You did the right thing and it should be what others should do instead of aborting their child. thanks for the comment..
@ajinomoto23 (1057)
• Philippines
15 Feb 07
It is hard to pass a judgement. The feeling of guilt is cause by religious belief. Some do not think that a fetus is a living person. Pro- Life - gives light to women that a fetus is life. How do you define Life? Is life precious? Some women simply want to have pleasure but not to bear the consequende. Some men just leave you behind and let the woman bear the burden. Does she feel betrayed? If you do not like the man, does it also mean you do not want the child from him? These may be some of the reason a woman abort her child.
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
8 Mar 07
Then she should keep the baby...It was God given..There was a purpose for her being pregnant.
@brew2x (3094)
• Philippines
15 Feb 07
Most of the women who aborted their child are pretty young. I believe they are selfish, they could only think of themselves. Some even have parents who helped them to have an abortion. But I'm sure they're being haunted by their conscience.
@APMorison (424)
• United States
16 Feb 07
It always amazes me that the ones who shout Learn Then Speak the loudest are the ones who are the most closed minded on a topic.
Your "Belief" is not everyone else's truth. The plain fact is that many doctors have stopped doing abortions because they can't afford the insurance rates anymore because some "pro-life" twits vote with explosives.
Some "Pro-Life" stance - blow up the People if you can't make them think the way you want them to - such a loving display
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@flagbabygirl (891)
• United States
15 Feb 07
Most woman who have an abortion have already had an abortion before! 40 million human beings are missing from earth because of abortion! Learn before you speak! abort73.com
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@Marie2473 (8512)
• Sweden
15 Feb 07
I have had an abortion and I do not regret it at all - i also do not consider it murder and I do not consider it beeing irresponsible. I did not get pregnant by choise - I was raped and a baby was produced. there was no way I could have kept this kid, I was young, scared and scared. i resented the person who raped me and I would have resented the child.
There are so many reasons for woman having an abortion, and for you to judge them is just wrong. You say it is murder? But who made u the judge???
Sorry if I sound harsh - but I just belive that people that has not even gone through the hard desicion do not know what it is like and what you have to live with for the rest of your life!!!
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
I'm sorry you have to go through that kind of situation...There were other ways to have the child..If you dont want it you should have just given it away....Was the rapist killed already? Why not kill the rapist first before the innocent child? In a civilized country we punish the guilty and not the innocent...You just killed an innocent child so how can you say that it is not murder? I am not judging you in your decision I just want you to know what I am trying to imply..
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I don't agree with abortion. I know everyone has their reasons and that it is their choice and that I have to respect, but I also have a right to my opinion and I think it's wrong.
SOme states wont let you get an abortion if you are over 3 months now. It use to be you could get one at any time. So I am some what happy they are trying to stop abortion past 3 months. Although I still think getting an abortion at 3 months is just as wrong.
Little by little things are getting better. Just keep on praying.
You know in some cases if someone was to murder a pregnant woman they would be charged with two murders becausse of the unborn baby, so why do they keep on letting abortions happen?
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
21 Feb 07
I agree with you on this. Abortion is not an option if you don't want a baby.. Thanks for the comment...I appreciate it.
@Bizziebod (3497)
•
15 Feb 07
I think you should put yourself in the position of someone who has been raped or someone who has a violent partner and then I think you will become close to why some women have the guts to abort their children.
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
If I was in a rape situation where I got pregnant..I wouldn't abort my child...maybe I might give him or her up for adoption..but who knows I might just keep the baby for myself.. God made a purpose why I got pregnant ....and I won't give up that child that easy even if his/her father raped me..I won't add another insult to my conscience by participating on the act of abortion. It would totally hurt yes..to know your child came from a rapist..but this is only a child and it is not their fault they have been conceived..
@sunshinelady (7609)
• United States
16 Feb 07
In some cases it is just a case they don't look at the fetus as a life. Not in all cases. But all you have to do is follow the path of the child in the womb as it develops. It is obvious that is a child. I believe even in the sixth week you can tell that is a child there. Then you will also get the reasoning of why bring a child in this world if the child is not wanted. Never mind about all the women who would love to adopt a child. You have all kinds of reasons as you said why women have abortions. My thing is instead of that as a womens option why not practice birth control to begin with. There is no reason in this day and age for a women to come up pregnant. Come on there are all kinds of things to keep you from getting pregnant. Use that way instead of aborting a child. They are living you know.
@Jasmijn (145)
• Belgium
15 Feb 07
I think it's better to abort than to keep it and don't love it. Children need a lot of affection, and if they're unwanted they won't get get that, and in that case I think maybe it's better they were never born at all. There are so many children (emotionally) neglected, and often they are not able to grow up well.
I must say, I'm not really pro-abortion, as I think there are enough ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, but prohibiting it is not a good idea either in my opinion. If it was, it'd be done too often illegally, without proper hygiene or care, and that'd be even worse.
Also, abortion is often a very hard decision that is not taken lightly and frequently regretted, but sometimes you don't have a choice. The women without any conscience who do it without any guilt, would be bad mothers anyway probably, so maybe it's for the best that their children get aborted.
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@Jasmijn (145)
• Belgium
16 Feb 07
Right, I forgot about the adoption option. Well, I don't know how exactly that works, so maybe people have their reasons for not taking that option, but it is indeed a much better idea than abortion in most cases probably. After all, there are indeed lots of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, so having a baby in your belly for 9 months is a good way to make them conscious of this.
And yes, saying they'd be better of aborted than having a bad mother is maybe a little crude to say, but I'm not sure I can say I don't think it's true. I don't really know. (maybe I just shouldn't have said that, I know too little of such cases to have a clear view on that)
You should watch each case of abortion seperately, I guess, and not condemn or approve of them all without looking at all the different circumstances.
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@naferterri (71)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
when the need arises, that is when you have the guts to do so. there are too many reasons so it is never easy to pass judgement. sometimes, sacrifice has to be done for the benefit of the common good. conscience is even greater if one is letting things merely happen because they are already there than doing something that you know is much better for your own situation. there are plenty of reasons for abortion so none can generalize it as murder. for the many reasons, take this as a case, what if pregnancy kills the mother? wouldn't it still be murder if you let the child grow inside knowing the health risk it poses for the mother?
@sunshinelady (7609)
• United States
16 Feb 07
You know, naferterri, good point that I had not thought about. Gives me room to ponder.
@pramod_roxx (44)
• Singapore
15 Feb 07
it is a great sin to abort the child . since some woman does not have any feelings and he also don't have respect thats why they do these things.
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
Yes abortion is a sin no matter how we look at it..It is considered a sin because you are committing murder...Some women are just not thinking straight when they do this..
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@cksimms (7)
• Canada
16 Feb 07
First of all I don't mean to correct you but I don't think the word alibi is the word you are looking for, I believe the word you are looking for is "motive".
In regards to your discussion I agree with you in a lot of ways I am pro-life. I strongly disagree with abortion even though by law the unborn child is not considered a life unless takes a breath of air, therefore it is not considered murder. But in a sense it is. My thoughts are that if a woman is out being sexually active at any age, even if she was on birth control and used protection but still somehow got pregnant than that woman should not have the right to abort her baby. As for their reasoning it really doesn't matter how could they weigh their parents being mad to taking the life of a child. The only time I would even consider or condone an abortion is if the woman had been raped.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
16 Feb 07
I've seen the documentation, reasons, decisions, choices. Different thoughts on wether or not it's murder. The fact is, the foetus, or embryo does die. So it must have had life.
And just where do people draw the line. It's my body, It's my life. Why should I pay for one mistake for the rest of my life? At what point do you realise the mistake? When you realise you're pregnant? When you think about the consequences of your actions? You only have a certain time limit to kill the new life inside you. What if you're too late?
What if you decide you don't like having a baby? Can you kill it then? What if you just don't want to get up for another night feed to this screaming infant? Can you kill it then? It's your life ...isn't it? Why should you have to put up with this demanding baby who is upsetting your life?
But you can't do that can you?
Isn't it really about..."What will people think? What will people say? The embarrassment and the shame are what motivates many. How terribly sad is that?
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
21 Feb 07
Yes I agree with you on this as well.They should think first on the consequences for their wrong actions..And they have to be able to carry the burden on what they did. Thanks for the comment. I appreciate it.
@ShadowStalker002 (107)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
i dont really get it either. i mean for physical life threatening reasons are understandable, but other that that is just horrid!
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
21 Feb 07
yes I do thank that too..Thanks for the comment. It is appreciated.
@Starline (681)
• United States
15 Feb 07
Wow, I'm so sad to hear how many people seem to think that it's murder to go through an abortion. I belive too that you should think twice before doing it, but if you are too young, too poor, or were even raped, there is no way that you should have to keep the fetus if you don't want to. Imagine if you were abused by a relative for example, I can't even imagine going through with having a child. But I do agree that if you have a partner and can support a child you should have it, and not just make an abortion because you want to wait another year, or other stupid reasons.
@Ravenladyj (22902)
• United States
15 Feb 07
"But I do agree that if you have a partner and can support a child you should have it, and not just make an abortion because you want to wait another year, or other stupid reasons"
for the most part I agree...if life is normal and whatnot and you have the money and means then yes own up I agree AND if you continue to get preg and abort repeatedly you need to get fixed IMO which may sound harsh but obviously ppl that do that havent and will never learn (I knew someone like that unfortunately)
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
What is a fetus? A living child inside a womans womb.
What is murder? It is an act of killing.
What is a terrorist? a person who kills innocent people in an act of infiltrating harm to others..
A living fetus is being aborted and abortion is an act to stop the life of an innocent child..So tell me is having an abortion different from murder and terrorism which acts in killing innocent people?...Poor children...This mothers don't know what they are doing..I pity them and their understanding of taking away the lives of the innocent.
@flagbabygirl (891)
• United States
15 Feb 07
40 million people are missing from the earth fom Abortion, Maybe one of them was supposed to be in thisdiscussion right now! www.abort73.com
@wolfsbane_25 (41)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
I have a friend who had done this already. I asked her if she ever felt guilty. She said "I had to do what is needed". I don't know how she managed to sleep at night knwing that she killed her unborn baby. What is wrong with young people these days?
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
21 Feb 07
Well,I guess they lack knowledge and guidance..They lack respect for life and for themselves..They also lack attention...They forget that they too came from their mothers womb and how would they feel if their mother aborted them..These children wasn't even given a chance to experience and live life..
@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
10 Mar 07
Yes it is sad.their decision yes but it should not be done in the wrong way..There are other ways.
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@Galena (9110)
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9 Mar 07
you keep saying, why not give it up for adoption, like it's the easist thing in the world.
sometimes even people that have no intention of ever having children or no ability to care for them will still bond immediately after giving birth. does she keep the baby and struggle for the rest of her life or does she give the baby away and regret that she couldn't keep it.
I'm not saying anyone should ever take abortion lightly, it IS taking a life, but life isn't black and white. there are plenty of reasons why someone shouldn't be forced to have a child.
in any situation where it is illegal, absolutely horrific things happen. lots of children lose their mothers because of botched illegal abortions. there should always be a safe option for women who don't want to FOR WHATEVER REASON carry a child full term.
yes, there's millions of people who were never born because they were aborted. so hey, lets bring them all back shall we, and see how overcrowded the world becomes, how little food and healthcare there is to go around.
the living before the unborn.
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@p3halliwel2005 (3156)
• Philippines
10 Mar 07
There are other options not to get a woman pregnant. There is this operation where in you have your ovaries tied up so it won't accept egg cells from forming up...If the woman doesn't want that men can also be done with an operation so they wont get anyone pregnant.. It is much better than aborting your child. There are ways people just have to open their minds to it.