How can coffee be "naturally decaffeinated"???

Sugar free and Naturally Decaffeinated - This is just cruel. Coffee that is Sugar Free and Naturally Decaffeinated.
But I want the caffeine!!!
@brokentia (10389)
United States
February 16, 2007 10:15am CST
Since October, I have changed my eating habits to prevent full onset of diabetes. Currently, I am borderline and have to cut back my sugars and carbs. Well, with that, I found that I am not my normal hyper self that I love! LOL I thought if I still drank Diet Coke, I would still get the caffeine needed to keep me feeling peppy. But, it didn't work. By mid-morning, I am always tired. Then I thought COFFEE!!!! :) But I don't like coffee unless it is the General Mills French Vanilla stuff. So, the next time that I was at the store, I looked for a sugar free French Vanilla. And to my dismay, all the sugar free coffees were "naturally decaffeinated"! DECAFFEINATED!!! Why? Why would they take the sugar away AND the caffeine??? Now, if you ask me, that is just cruel! Then I started think about the words...naturally decaffeinated. Now, if coffee beans come with caffeine naturally in them...how can a coffee be "naturally decaffeinated"? I am thinking there is nothing "natural" about coffee being decaffeinated! Out of desperation, I found a Splenda French Vanilla mixer that I can add to regular Folgers instant coffee. But I have heard the Splenda is not the best thing to use. However at this point, I just really want some caffeine and will take what I can get while still sticking to my sugar free eating habits. So, can anyone tell me how this coffee can have the wonderful pick-me-up caffeine naturally taken away? Do you like coffee? Any suggestions to help me or thoughts? Is there a coffee that is less bitter than Folgers? Note...All opinions are rated positively as long as it is well written and done so non-offensively. I do not rate negatively just because we do not hold the same opinions. :)
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21 responses
16 Feb 07
I can't have caffine because I have blood sugar problems like you. Coffee that is decaffinated has lots of chemicals added to it including paint stripper to get rid of the coffee. Naturally decaffinated coffee has been decaffinated with water so has none of the horrible chemicals in it. I am surprised that you are allowed to have caffine being a diabetic as I thought it affected your blood sugar but maybe it only affects low blood sugar that I have rather than high.
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@brokentia (10389)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I am sure that if I spoke to the doctor, he would probably tell me to stay away from caffeine too. LOL But I really need something and I figured coffee would probably be better than NoDoz or Vivran. hahaha
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• United States
17 Feb 07
No, caffeine does not give you high blood sugar. i am a full on diabetic, and it doesn't mess with sugars. People tell you to stay away from ceffeine for other reasons, but it does not have to do with blood sugars.
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@brokentia (10389)
• United States
26 Feb 07
Awesome! Thank you for the info! I really didn't want to have to stop my caffeine. Now I have confirmation that I don't. Thanks!
@Idlewild (6090)
• United States
16 Feb 07
From what I understand, coffee can be decaffeinated a number of different ways. One method is by using a type of chemical solvent on the beans. A 'natural' method may use water or steam instead. But, natural methods might also just use a different type of chemical. I also like the GF coffees and have had trouble finding varieites that have caffeine but not sugar. They do exist, you might have to look harder for them. You might try Amazon.com or one of those grocery delivery services, they often have a bigger selection than the average grocery store.
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@brokentia (10389)
• United States
16 Feb 07
Hey! Amazon takes Paypal!!! Great idea! Thanks! I will check them out! :) Oh! And your right...it is General FOODS..not General Mills like I said in my discussion details. Thanks!
@brokentia (10389)
• United States
16 Feb 07
Rebate? What rebate? Huh? Where? What do I need to do to get the rebate? Is the rebate good for any purchase with Paypal or just Amazon?
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• United States
16 Feb 07
Hey Tia, if you are going to use paypal at amazon, dont forget about the $15. rebate that is currently available from paypal. You have to register before you make your purchase to get the rebate.
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• United States
17 Feb 07
Natural decaffeined process is using water rather than chemicals to remove the caffeine. There is no sugar in coffee, unless you are buying the flavored ones. I like Millstone the best. The colombian flavor. It is full bodied and coffee tasting. However, it is not sweet. You can only train yourself off the sweetness, or you must take sugar or the unhealthy sugar substitutes. If your coffee is too bitter, try grinding your own until you get the taste that you like. Millstone really is very good.
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@brokentia (10389)
• United States
26 Feb 07
Thank you for your advice. I am new to this coffee thing and trying to figure out the different flavors. As I know, everyone has their favorite.
@villageanne (8553)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I have often wondered that myself.We dont drink coffee. Seems a bit strange to me that caffine can be taken out naturally. I am hesitant to believe things like this these days. Labels can often be deceiving. According to Oklahoma State University " Caffine is a mild stimulant which is found in the leaves, fruitys and seeds of mny plants. Tea leaves, coffee and cocoa beans as well as kola nuts contain caffine" If it is found in the coffee beans, how can it be taken out? I found this article on how the roasting technique will acturally take out the caffine. I also found that even caffine free coffee can have some caffine in it. The regulations say that it has to have less than .1% but it does have some caffine. This site explains the procedure used to take the caffine out and other info on caffine in coffee. http://www.ico.org/caffine.asp I purchased a can of chicken broth the other day. On the front of the can it said in bold letters "NO MSG*" I went to the back of the can to see what the meaning of "*" was. It said "*may contain other glutamates". How can they legally do that?
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• United States
16 Feb 07
How can they legally get by with misleading the consumer like that? I dont understand that at all
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@Debs_place (10520)
• United States
16 Feb 07
Okay, I did not start drinking coffee until well into my 30's. Now I only drink one kind. Gevalia. You may want to give it a try. Many of my friends consider it to be a dessert coffee. I love it iced. Unfortunately, it starts adding up to about a 1/2 gallon a day if I am not careful. ThenIdon'tsitdownatall alldaylongandItalknonstopanddon'tevenneedtobreathe. But I love it, it comes in several flavors and is very tasty.
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@brokentia (10389)
• United States
16 Feb 07
That sounds like my type of coffee! LOL Does it come sugar free? Is it sold in a normal store or do I need to go to a gourmet coffee store? We don't have much for grocery stores in my town...we have two stores. WalMart and Reasor's....that it! LOL
@brokentia (10389)
• United States
16 Feb 07
ha ha I just had two cups of coffee and I totally read it just fine and faster too! LOL
• United States
17 Feb 07
There is nothing wrong with Splenda, so don't worry about that. And there is nothing wrong with caffeine. i have full on diabetes, and caffeine has NO EFFECT on it whatsoever.
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@brokentia (10389)
• United States
26 Feb 07
Thank you for your confidence in Splenda...it has been my flavor savior in my change of eating habits! And caffeine...has become my next best friend. LOL :)
@djbtol (5493)
• United States
16 Feb 07
I am a coffee drinker and I was on a low carb diet for a while. At that time I did try to switch to decaf, but I'm back to the good stuff now. Generally I used splenda and half/half in my coffee. Anything like french vanilla always had too carbs. One thing I had not tried was the coffee flavors that are liquid and come in a little bottle. I think you just add a drop or two to a cup. You need to check, but maybe they do not have too much sugar. Hope your diet continue to go well. You are being a smart lady.
@Bunny2 (2102)
• Australia
17 Feb 07
Flavoured coffees are yummy - Flavoured coffees are yummy though often the packets are filled with sugar and fillers which are carbohydrates.
Good on you for trying to get healthier! I am in Australia so we don't have all the same brands as you do in the USA. All the flavoured coffees have sugar here- and the ones that claim to be*unsweetened flavour* just mean it tastes less sweet but it has as much if not more sugar in it. The other problem with these flavoured coffees is that there are a lot of fillers and carbohydrates in there. There are several ways that claim to naturally remove caffeine from coffee:In Ethyl Acetate processing, that chemical is used as the sovent to extract the caffeine. It is claimed as natural because is a chemical found naturally in many fruits. In Carbon Dioxide processing, the water-softened coffee beans are "pressure cooked" with the gas. At high pressures and high temperatures, carbon dioxide acts as both a gas and a liquid. It becomes a solvent with its small, nonpolar molecules attracting the small caffeine molecules. Since the coffee's flavour molecules are larger, they remain intact, which is why this process retains the flavour of the material better. Water processing is used primarily for coffee decaffeination. The process is similar to the "indirect" method used in the chemical methylene chloride processing or the*natural* ethyl acetate processing, but no chemicals are used. After the caffeine is leached out of the material by soaking in hot water, the solution is then passed through a carbon filter for caffeine removal. The water is then returned to the beans for reabsorption of flavors and oils. In the "Swiss Water Process," the same method is used, but instead of soaking in water, the beans are soaked in a coffee-flavoured solution. This results in the caffeine being extracted without removing the coffee flavours. If you want vanilla flavoured coffee, you might have to consider using a couple of drops if vanilla extract in your coffee (or essence, though tht extract tastes so much better!) and you can use artificial sugars if you need them.
@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
17 Feb 07
cool thanks. I was going tosearch this but I just read your post. thanks.
• Canada
17 Feb 07
Great answer Bunny2! Here is a link that explains the Swiss Water process, as well as the other decaffeination processes too. http://www.swisswater.com/decaf/process
• United States
18 Feb 07
In my opinion there is not a better coffee than Folgers!! Even thier instant is great! I have about a pot a day. If you are type a blood than coffee, decaff or not is highly benefitial for you! Of course, in moderation! LOL:)
• United States
17 Feb 07
I have never thought about that before. For the last seven or eight years I've bought the naturally decaffeinated tea. I don't need the pick-me-ups from caffeine and I just figure it's better for you if you don't drink it. The tea tastes no different either so I go with that. Although I can't have much tea though because it leaves my stomach upset - could be the amount of sugar that I put in it :) Splenda makes my stomach upset. I don't know what it is about it but it will everytime. Even the smallest amount. Sorry I don't like coffee so I've got nothing to add there :(
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@patootie (3592)
20 Feb 07
No, don't use Splenda http://www.holisticmed.com/splenda/ It does seem a bit strange to take away the sugar and caffeine together though .. and the naturally decaffeinated is because of the discovery of a new found variety of coffee plant http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6064 So there you have it .. the next thing we know 'our' nany governments will be outlawing caffeine and making us all drink 'naturally decaffeinated .. because it may be better for us .. DOH !!
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@raveemenon (1071)
• India
17 Feb 07
The natural decaffeination process was alien to me and i had to do some research to find the truth. the objective is achieved by incorparating three components viz water, steam and ethyle acetate. the process is explained in the following link lucidly. http://www.sweetmarias.com/natural.decaf.html Since you are a border line case of diabetics and also want to avoid further risks, i would advise you to switch over to Green tea that too preferably lemon tea which is an anioxidant and good for health.
@hinocki (670)
• Italy
17 Feb 07
Why have you to decaffeinate coffee? The coffee is good like it is
@Gripitoy (15)
• Philippines
16 Feb 07
for me, decaff coffee is nonsense.. i guess.. cause the kick we want in a coffee is in the caffeine itself, so why would we drink coffee without the one we're paying for? besides, if you're on a caffeine diet, don't drink.. take milk instead... hehehe
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@mtdewgurl74 (18151)
• United States
17 Feb 07
My mom buys the french vanilla all the time it is her absolute favorite and hazelnut coming in second. I drink it to she is a diabetic and I am a borderline one they are some sugar free french vanilla coffee creamers made by coffemate that are good. I like hte Irish whiskey one. I haven't a clue how it can be naturally decaffeinated unless they pick the beans before they are fully ripe and so that means not enough caffeine to really hurt or be considered caffeine. I think I will go and search that because now I am wanting to know..lol
@Willowlady (10658)
• United States
16 Feb 07
Well I heard on the news the other morning of a study. Decaf does not mean no caffeine. So go ahead and have that dedaf stuff. Being a laxative I don't care for coffee for anyone. Even sythetic sugar is recognized by the body as sugar so be careful with that use too. Careful with the diet pop also. Good luck with this. I am a tea drinker and that would be my suggestion. You could adjust I think!
@CatEyes (2448)
• United States
17 Feb 07
Well I know that they use many different methods one is This method uses two natural elements, pure water and carbon dioxide ( together they make "Sparkling Water") to extract caffeine from the coffee grains. This method was discovered by Kurt Zosel, a well named scientific, of the M ax Plank Institute. Steps for the C0-2 or Carbonated Water Method: Coffee is mixed with pure water. When the coffee absorbs the water the grains expand, their pores get opened and the caffeine molecules become mobile. At this point carbon dioxide is added ( A 100% Natural Element) at a 100 atmospheres pressure to the pure water. Basically the water and the carbon dioxide are mixed to create the sparkling water. The carbon dioxide acts like a magnet and attracts all the caffeine molecules that became movable. When the caffeine is captured by the carbon dioxide, this is removed. The carbon dioxide is very selective and it doesn't touch the carbohydrates and proteins of the coffee beans. The carbohydrates and the proteins are the ones that give the coffee the flavor and smell after it is made. When the carbon dioxide has finished removing the caffeine, the coffee seeds are dried naturally Carbon dioxide is then recycled and caffeine is sold for other commercial uses. Benefits of this method: Extracts Caffeine, effectivly. Is a direct contact method but does not use chemcals. Doesn't chemically affect proteins or carbohydrates of the coffee beans. The byproducts are natural and a 100% recyclable. Sweet Marias
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16 Feb 07
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@earthsong (589)
• United States
17 Feb 07
I am a coffee fanatic. There are a couple of processes that decaffeinate coffee. One is chemical processing isn't safe or healthy. The other is a water process using filtered distilled water. Its a longer process, and the coffee is more costly when its processed like that. But its much safer for your body than drinking a chemically processed decaf. Personally, I wouldn't trust a grocery or chain store bought coffee to honestly be naturally decaffeinated. Most naturally decaffeinated coffees are $11 or $12 a pound, and you can generally only get them from companies that sell organically grown beans. In my opinion, the stuff you get in the store will put anything on a lable to get people to buy it and make them think they are doing something healthier when they really aren't. I'm with you though, why give up the caffeine when you've already given up the sugar! If you want a healthier, and safer, sugar substitute try stevia or zylitol. I'm not 100% sure about the zylitol, but I know stevia has no affect on blood sugar levels. You can get both products in a good natural health food store. Not a store like GNC, look for something like a No Name Nutrition, Whole Foods, SunFlower Market, Wild Oats or check around and see if your city or town has a small health food store.
@thyst07 (2079)
• United States
17 Feb 07
Coffee cannot be grown decaffeinated, so in that sense, "naturally decaffeinated" is an incorrect term. However, the decaffeination process can now be accomplished without using artificial chemicals. The Swiss water process is one of the most popular methods now. Be careful about "natural," though. That doesn't mean there can't be any chemicals in it- many chemicals are completely natural. Like arsenic. I don't know how much you're willing to shell out for your coffee, but if you want flavored coffee that has caffeine and no sugar, I'd recommend investing in a small espresso machine (you can get one for the price of a regular coffee maker) and some sugar-free flavored syrups. You can buy the sugar-free vanilla, hazelnut, and cinnamon dolce at some Starbucks. They're all pretty tasty. Then you can make yourself flavored lattes.